A Simple Reason Why The Qur’an Cannot Be The Word of God

Qur'anThe Islamic religion claims that the Qur’an, revealed allegedly by the angel Gabriel to the prophet Muhammad beginning in 610 A.D., is the inspired and inerrant word of God. Such an assertion, however, is highly problematic, and many, many arguments could be given to convincingly refute it. In this article, I am going to offer one of those reasons, which I perceive to be the most damning. In future articles, we will consider some other serious difficulties with the idea that the Qur’an represents the revealed words of God. My argument here can be summarized in syllogistic form as follows:

Premise 1: Either the Bible is the Word of God or it is not.

Premise 2: If the Bible is the Word of God, the Qur’an is not.

Premise 3: If the Bible is not the Word of God, the Qur’an is not.

Conclusion: Therefore, the Qur’an is not the Word of God.

First, a note of qualification. By “the Bible” I refer to the Old and New Testaments as we possess them today and as possessed by Christians at the time of Muhammad in the seventh century. Granted, there are textual variants in the New Testament Greek manuscripts, but the core message of the New Testament remains the same — they are thus immaterial to what I’m attempting to establish here.

Premise 1 need not be defended, since it is self-evident that the two alternatives are mutually exclusive and exhaustive possibilities. Premise 2 is easy to establish, since the Qur’an and the Bible fundamentally contradict one another. The most obvious item of conflict relates to whether Jesus died by crucifixion, denied by the Qur’an (Surah An-Nisa 157-158) but affirmed throughout the New Testament and indeed a cornerstone of New Testament theology. The Qur’an also repeatedly denies the core Biblical concept that Christ is the incarnate eternal Son of God, affirming instead that He is only a messenger or prophet (e.g. Surah Al-Maeda 75). The Qur’an, on multiple occasions, denies the Trinity (e.g. Surah An-Nisa 171; Surah Al-Maeda 73). The Qur’an, of course, repeatedly misrepresents Christian theology on these matters, as I discuss here, but this is immaterial to the issues that concern us here. If, then, the Christian Scriptures are indeed the inspired Word of God, the Muslim Scriptures cannot be, since the Qur’an so fundamentally disagrees with the theology of the Bible.

The Qur’an’s Affirmation of the Christian and Jewish Scriptures

For the Muslim to reject the conclusion of the argument, at least one of the three Premises must also be rejected. As I have shown, Premises 1 and 2 cannot be reasonably denied. What, then, of Premise 3? The Qur’an, over and over again, affirms the Christian Scriptures, claiming consistency with them, and asserting that the Torah and the Gospel (the “Injil”), and also the Psalms, are previous revelations from Allah. Consider, for example, the following verses.

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 3: “He has revealed to you the Book with the truth [i.e. the Qur’an], confirming what has been before it, and has sent down the Torah and the Injil.”
  • Surah An-Nisa 136: “O you who believe, do believe in Allah and His Messenger and in the Book He has revealed to His Messenger and in the Books He has revealed earlier. Whoever disbelieves in Allah and His angels and His Books and His Messengers and the Last Day has indeed gone far astray.”
  • Surah An-Nisa 163: “Surely, We have revealed to you [i.e. Muhammad] as We have revealed to Nuh and to the prophets after him; and We have revealed to Ibrahim, Isma’il, Ishaq, Ya’qub and their children, and to Isa, Ayyub, Yunus, Harun, and Salaiman, and We have given Zabur [i.e. the psalms] to Dawud.”
  • Surah Al-Isra: “Your Lord knows best about all those in the heavens and the earth, and We have certainly granted excellence to some prophets over some others, and We gave Dawud the Zabur (the Psalms). Say, “Call those who you assume (to be gods), besides Him, while they have no power to remove distress from you, nor to change it.”“
  • Surah Al-Anbiya: “And We have written in Zabur (Psalms) after the advice that the land will be inherited by My righteous slaves.”

The Qur’an even goes so far as to assert that the prophet Muhammad is prophesied in both the Old and New Testaments. Consider the following verses.

  • Surah Al-Araf 157: “Those who follow the Messenger, the Ummiyy (unlettered) prophet whom they find written with them in the Torah and the Injil and who bids the what is fair and forbids what is unfair, and makes lawful for the good things, and makes unlawful for the impure things, and relieves them of their burden, and of the shackles that were upon them. So, those who believe in him and support him, and help him and follow the light sent down with him, those are the ones who are successful.”
  • Surah As-Saff 6: Remember when Isa, son of Maryam, said, “O children of Isra’il, I am a messenger of Allah sent towards you, confirming the Torah that is (sent down) before me, and giving you the good news of a messenger who will come after me, whose name will be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with manifest signs, they said, “This is a clear magic.”

One will search in vain, however, to find any mention of Muhammad in any Biblical text. This has left Muslim apologists doing hermeneutic gymnastics to inject Muhammad somewhere into the Bible. All such attempts, however, have proven futile. One such attempt is the claim that the coming prophet like Moses, spoken of in Deuteronomy 18:15-19, is, in fact, Muhammad. Here’s the full text:

The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.

This argument, like the rest, is fraught with problems. The most damning of those is the context, which limits the word “brothers” of verse 15 and 18 to the Israelites. Verses 1-2 of Deuteronomy 18 clearly reveal who “brothers” refers to:

The Levitical priests, all the tribe of Levi, shall have no portion or inheritance with Israel. They shall eat the Lord’s food offerings as their inheritance. They shall have no inheritance among their brothers; the Lord is their inheritance, as he promised them.

Here, “brothers” can only refer to the Israelites. Since the prophet of verses 15-19 is to come from among the “brothers” of the Israelites, Muhammad is excluded as a contender for its fulfillment.

Another favorite is the Advocate or Helper promised by Jesus to the disciples in John 14 and 16. In John 14:15-16, we read the following words of Jesus:

If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

It is extremely difficult to read Muhammad into this text, since the promised Helper is said to be with Jesus’ followers forever and in them, something not accomplished by Muhammad. The Muslim interpretation also utterly ignores the overall context of the text. Jesus here is speaking to his disciples. If the promise refers to Muhammad, then it was fulfilled six hundred years later. Thus, everything said by Jesus to the disciples would not be relevant to them.

In John 15:26-27, we read more about this coming Helper:

But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning.

Was Muhammad sent by Jesus? Does he proceed from the Father? Moreover, the disciples bearing witness is directly linked to the coming of the promised Helper, and thus the fulfillment of this promise must be found in the disciples to whom the promise was made. John 16:7-14 provides yet further difficulties:

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

This text makes it even more clear that the Helper is sent by Jesus and comes to these specific disciples to whom Jesus is speaking. Muhammad did not come for a further six centuries. We are also told that the Helper will glorify Jesus. Muhammad certainly did not glorify Jesus.

One could proceed to go through all of the passages that Muslims typically cite as alleged prophecies concerning Muhammad. None of them, however, fare any better than these. Indeed, the two I have addressed above are the most often cited texts — the favorites of Muslim apologists.

Confronted with this obvious Qur’anic error about the contents of the Christian Scriptures, Muslim apologists will often attempt to argue that the Christian Scriptures have been corrupted, or that the “Injil” (the Gospel) refers to a special book given only to Jesus (whom the Qur’an calls “Isa”) which has left no record in history. As we shall see, however, neither the historical record, nor the Qur’an, allows for that possibility.

Has the Message of the Injil and Torah Been Corrupted or Lost?

Muslims cannot consistently maintain that the Scriptures delivered previously have been corrupted or lost, since the Qur’an appears to assume that these Scriptures are still with the “people of the book” (Christians and Jews). The case here is strong and the implications difficult to escape. Let’s take a look at some of these texts in the order that they appear in the Qur’an.

  • Surah Al-Baqara 91: “When it is said to them, “Believe in what Allah has revealed,” they say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us” — and they deny what is beyond it, whereas that is the truth which confirms what is with them. Say, “Why then have you been slaying the prophets of Allah earlier, if you were believers?””

This verse contends that the Scriptures previously revealed by Allah (i.e. the Torah and Injil) are “with them” (i.e. the people of the Book) at the time of the writing revealing of the Qur’an in the seventh century. If the Jews and Christians that the Qur’an is addressing didn’t have access to these Scriptures, the verse makes no sense. Here is another example which further illustrates this point:

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 70: “O people of the Book, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you are yourselves witnesses (to those verses)?”

Again, Christians and Jews are witnesses to the verses revealed in the previous Scriptures. The “you” of this verse clearly refers to the Christians and Jews of Muhammad’s day. Here’s another example from the same chapter:

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 199: “Surely, among the people of the Book there are those who believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to you and what has been sent to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They do not barter away the verses of Allah for paltry (worldly) gains. They have their reward with their Lord. Surely, Allah is swift at reckoning.”

Notice in the above verse the use of the plural personal pronoun “them”. The revelation from Allah was apparently sent not only to Jesus but to them (meaning, the people of the Book). Why, then, do Muslims frequently claim that the Injil was revealed only to Jesus?

Perhaps the most frequently cited verse in connection with this topic is the following text from the fifth chapter of the Qur’an:

  • Surah Al-Maeda 43-49: “How do they [i.e. the Jews] ask you to judge while the Torah is with them, having the ruling of Allah? Still, they turn away, after all that. They are no believers. Surely We have sent down the Torah, in which there was guidance and light by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, used to judge for the Jews, and (so did) the Men of Allah and the Men of knowledge, because they were ordained to protect the Book of Allah, and they stood guard over it. So, (O Jews of today,) do not fear people. Fear me, and do not take a paltry price for My verses. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down are disbelievers. We prescribed for them therein: A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear and a tooth for a tooth; and for wounds, an equal retaliation Then, if one forgives it, that will be expiation for him. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down, they are the unjust. We sent Isa son of Maryam after those prophets, confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before him, and We gave him the Injil having guidance and light therein, and confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before it; a guidance and a lesson for the God-fearing. And the people of the Injil must judge according to what Allah has sent down therein. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down, they are the sinners. We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming the Book before it, and a protector for it. So, judge between the according to what Allah has sent down, and do not follow their desires against the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have made a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made a single community of people, but (He did not), so that He may test you in what He has given to you. Strive, then to excel each other in good deeds. To Allah is the return for all of you. Then Allah shall tell you about that in which you disputed. We order you to judge between the according to what Allah has sent down. Do not follow their desires, and beware of them, lest they should turn away from some of what Allah has sent down to you. If they turn away, be assured that Allah intends to make the suffer for some of their sins. Surely, many of the people are sinners.”

How can Christians and Jews judge by what has been revealed in the Torah and Injil if they do not have access to those Scriptures? Again, the text assumes that the “people of the book” have access to the previously-revealed Scriptures. We go on:

  • Surah Al-Maeda 68: “Say, “O people of the Book, you have nothing to stand on, unless you uphold the Torah and the Injil and what has been sent down to you from your Lord.” What has been sent down to you from your Lord will certainly make many of the most persistent in rebellion and disbelief. So, do not grieve over the disbelieving people.”

Not only does this text command the “people of the Book” to uphold the Torah and the Injil (which they must have in their possession for the command to make sense), but they are told of the Scriptures that were previously “sent down to you“. Who does “you” refer to? In context, it can only refer to the people of the Book. This is difficult to square with the popular Islamic notion that the Injil was revealed only to Jesus and was quickly lost without leaving any trace in history. Again, this text assumes that the “people of the book” possess the Torah and the Injil and that they have been neither corrupted nor lost.

As if those weren’t enough, here’s one final example:

  • Surah Yunus 94: “So, (O prophet,) even if you are in doubt about what We have sent down to you, ask those who read the Book (revealed) before you. Surely, truth has come to you from your Lord, so never be among those who are suspicious.”

This text again makes no sense unless the Christians and Jews have access to the Books revealed before Muhammad. The Muslim contention that the Christian and Jewish Scriptures have been corrupted beyond recognition is simply without support from the Qur’an.

Was Jesus A Successful Preacher of Islam According to the Qur’an?

Muslims typically maintain that Jesus preached Islam, but was apparently not very successful in winning converts, because His message became quickly corrupted. Such a notion, however, is contrary to the text of the Qur’an.  Let’s take a look at some more verses:

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 50-52: “I [Jesus] have come to you confirming that (book) which is (sent down) prior to me, that is, the Torah, and to are permissible for you some of what was prohibited to you. I have come to you with a sign fro your Lord So, fear Allah and obey me. Allah is surely my Lord and your Lord. So, worship Him. This is the straight path So, when Isa sensed disbelief in them, he said: “Who are my helpers in the way of Allah?” The disciples said: “We are helpers of Allah We believe in Allah; so be our witness that we are Muslims.”“

According to this text, Jesus was at least somewhat successful as a preacher of Islam and his own disciples themselves, at least some of whom — Peter, Matthew, John — are contributors to the New Testament. If these disciples were Muslims, why is their theology so strongly at odds with the Qur’an?

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 55: “When Allah said: “O Isa, I am to take you in full and to raise you towards myself, and to cleanse you of those who disbelieve, and to place those who follow you above those you disbelieve up to the Day of Doom. Then to Me is your return, whereupon I shall judge between you in that over which you have differed.”

In the above text, Allah promises Jesus that He will place those who follow him “above those who disbelieve up to the Day of Doom”. If barely anyone was a true follower of Jesus (i.e. a Muslim), then this text cannot be understood.

  • Surah Al-Maeda 110-111: “Call to mind the time when Allah will say “O Isa, son of Maryam, remember my blessing upon you and upon your mother; when I supported you with the Holy Spirit. You spoke to people while you were still in the cradle and when you grew to middle age. I taught you the Book and the Wisdom, the Torah and  the Injil. You created from clay something in the shape of a bird, when you blew on it, and it became a bird by My leave. I kept the children of Isra’il away from you when you came to them with clear signs, and the disbelievers among them said, ”This is a clear magic.”  When I enjoined upon the disciples (of Jesus), “Believe in Me and in My Messenger,” they said, “We believed. Bear witness that we are the submitting ones.”“

This text again attests that the disciples of Jesus were Muslims. Interestingly, the story recounted in the above passage does not appear anywhere in the Bible, but can be traced to the Arabic infancy Gospel (dated to the sixth century) which Muhammad would have had access to. Indeed, I would argue that there is a strong case to be made for literary dependence on this apocryphal book.  Here is the relevant text from the Arabic infancy Gospel 36:

Now, when the Lord Jesus had completed seven years from His birth, on a certain day He was occupied with boys of His own age. For they were playing among clay, from which they were making images of asses, oxen, birds, and other animals; and each one boasting of his skill, was praising his own work. Then the Lord Jesus said to the boys: The images that I have made I will order to walk. The boys asked Him whether then he were the son of the Creator; and the Lord Jesus bade them walk. And they immediately began to leap; and then, when He had given them leave, they again stood still. And He had made figures of birds and sparrows, which flew when He told them to fly, and stood still when He told them to stand, and ate and drank when He handed them food and drink. After the boys had gone away and told this to their parents, their fathers said to them: My sons, take care not to keep company with him again, for he is a wizard: flee from him, therefore, and avoid him, and do not play with him again after this.

Notice in particular how this passage ends. Jesus is accused of being a “wizard”. The Qur’an states that “the disbelievers among them said, ”This is a clear magic.”” It seems probable that this source is where the author of the Qur’an is drawing from on this point.

We go on:

  • Surah Ash-Shura 13-14: “He has ordained for you people the same religion as He has enjoined upon Nuh, and that which We have revealed to you (O prophet) and that which We had enjoined upon Ibrahim and Musa and Isa by saying, “Establish the religion, and be not divided therein.” Arduous for the mushriks (polytheists) is that to which you are inviting them. Allah chooses (and pulls) toward Himself anyone He wills, and guides to Himself anyone who turns to Him (to seek guidance). And they were not divided, in jealousy with each other, but after the knowledge had come to them. Had it not been for a word that had come forth earlier from your Lord (and was effective) until a specified time, the matter would have been decided between them. And those who were made to inherit the Book after them are in confounding doubt about it.”

Who are “those who were made to inherit the Book after them”? Isn’t this referring to those who inherited the books of Abraham and Moses and Jesus (the three prophets listed in the above text)?

  • Surah As-Saff 14: “O you who believe, be supporters of (the religion of) Allah, just as Isa, son of Maryam, said to the Disciples, “Who are my supporters towards Allah?” The Disciples said, “We are the supporters of (the religion of) Allah.” So a group from the children of Isra’il believed, and another group disbelieved. Then we supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became victors.”

This text implies that a group from among the Jews believed the Islamic teachings of Jesus. Why, then, did they leave no trace in history? The final sentence (“Then we supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became victors”) is typically interpreted by commentators as being in reference to Christianity becoming the religion of the Roman empire in the fourth century A.D. If this is the case, why does the Christian religion that gained victory over the Roman empire look so different from Islam? The Christianity that became the dominant religion in the Roman empire maintained the deity of Christ and his death by crucifixion, two propositions expressly denied by the Qur’an.

Can Anyone Change Allah’s Words?

The Qur’an states plainly on several occasions that no one can alter or change the words of Allah and that Allah preserves and protects His words. Here’s what the Qur’an says:

  • Surah Al-Anaam 34: “Indeed, many messengers have been rejected before you [i.e. Muhammad], but they stood patient against their rejection, and they were persecuted until Our help came to them. No one can change the words of Allah, and of course, some accounts of the Messengers have already come to you.”
  • Surah Al-Anaam 115: “The Word of Your Lord is perfect in truth and justice. None is there to change His words, and He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”
  • Surah Al-Hijr 9: “We, Ourselves, have sent down the Dhikr (the Qur’an), and We are there to protect it.
  • Surah Al-Kahf 27: “And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord. There is no one to change His words, and you will never find a refuge beside Him.”

Muslims are frequently telling us about the miraculous textual preservation of the Qur’an. As an aside, the notion that the text of the Qur’an as we possess it today perfectly resembles the Qur’an of the seventh century is demonstrably untrue — but that’s a subject for another day. My question for Muslims is thus: If Allah was able to perfectly preserve the text of the Qur’an, why wasn’t he able to do the same with the Bible? Do the above verses not apply equally to the previous revelations of Allah?

What Does The Historical Record Say About Biblical Textual Preservation?

As far as ancient texts go, the New Testament is the best attested of antiquity, based on the sheer volume of manuscripts (between 5 and 6 thousand Greek manuscripts) and the earliness of those manuscripts. Moreover, the earliest manuscripts we have demonstrate the existence not of a single line of corrupt transmission, but multiple lines of transmission with varying levels of accuracy. Multiple lines of transmission defy the possibility of being under the control of any central editing process. The burden of proof lies with the skeptic who asserts corruption of the primitive New Testament texts since the extant manuscripts show multiple lines of independent transmission. In any case, even if no New Testament manuscripts were preserved, we would still be able to construct the vast majority of the New Testament from quotations by early church fathers.

Conclusion

To conclude, the argument developed above represents a formidable challenge to the Islamic religion, and I challenge any Muslim to show me where I have erred. In order to maintain his Islamic faith, a Muslim must reject one or more of the Premises of the syllogism given at the start of this article. If he cannot do so, the conclusion follows necessarily and inescapably.

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  1. moose says:

    jonathan-if the (un) holy bible is the only “divinely inspired” holy book, and the qur’an is a phony, does that mean all muslims are going to hell? (where the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched–according to the great hero-jesus)

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    • DwayneWayne says:

      God has said (through Jesus) we need to receive the grace of God through Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross; and possibly the more often a person rejects this message, and causes others to, the more condemnation he (or she) receives. According to Romans 2:12, you are judged by the Law (the Bible) if you’ve heard it, and by your own conscience if you have not yet heard it. HOWEVER, Christ will judge all secrets of the hearts of men (2:16). How then shall we avoid God’s righteous wrath without the Blood of Christ for a cover?

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      • Umar says:

        If Jesus indeed prophesided some one after him, who is he that you know todate?

        Oooooo my brother, you still have a long way to go. Clearly there is alot to read and understand. The writer of this argument and its followers have created a point of undrstanding and we all deserve to learn fom it. Just be fair, open minded and you will see where the common sence was rightly positioned. what i can say is that God/Allan in His Ones-ness will judge all creation regardless and every one will pay his price according to the laws, either from christian books or the quran. What is clear is that the law exists irrespective of when it was revealed and to who in particular.
        A few things to guide you:
        Man was created to worship(full stop) not to look for wealth, have fun i.e look for sustainance, because you have no idea where the food you eat comes from. ALLah has provided already
        The last day is there – just like He has done it for other generations like Noah’s, and the Thamud people. So be steady fast in your thinking.
        Hell is real. position your self to avoid it. learn islam deply, since you already have christina knowledge and make a better jusdment for your question.

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          • kaleem ullah says:

            islam is a peaceful religion….those who are terrarist they are nothing with Islam…Allah Almighty says in quran 2;256…There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing….if you like to study more .visit http://www.Alislam.org…this will guide you the best

          • Mohammad Hassain says:

            No I am sure that you have not read the complete Bible and the Quran with details and context. There is no use telling a half knowledge man anything about knowledge. Nobody will have to answer you when you have got a good knowledge of both scriptures, you will see the difference for yourself. Also Yes, Allah did say to muslims to keep the commandments, but where are they? I guess you don’t know that you don’t have a Bible from Jesus, its supposedly(as we don’t even know the authors) the Bible according to other people. We are people of the scriptures, and their reliability from authenticity point of view is important, if you can show me the authentic Ingeel e Isa (Gospel of Jesus), then Wallah I promise intros forum I will accept Christianity because when Allah says about the Bible(Its actually the not mentioned as Bible but as Gospel not even the Gospels that you have today) in the Quran he speaks of the messages given to Hazrat ISA/Jesus (Peace be upon him). Show me that authentic(from Jesus ) Gospel of Jesus then I won’t hesitate a minute to accept christianity.
            Wassalam

          • Maayah says:

            Its the same God, just like Moses tyrants were revenged. Every one will face Gods wrath if don’t follow laws and can’t be civilised to others. Because kafirs meaning non believers in a Creator dont follow any law and hence remain in the dark, cause rifts between those who do. It means unlearned people.

          • aamir says:

            Brother please read
            Matthew 10:34
            “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

            Also Quraan 21 :107
            “And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.”

            May Allah almighty give you hidayat.

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            First of All i would you have you read the Quran?If you have not please do so just for knowledge. thank you

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            At the end of the day Muslims and Christians can NOT be worshiping the same God.
            .
            The Muslims claim that god is one and has no son yet they still claim Jesus as a prophet while denying the crucifixion and resurrection. This is in clear contradiction to what Jesus claims for himself.
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            Christianity’s claims are 180 degrees from the Muslims. Jesus’ own claims about himself should keep the Muslims from claiming Him as a prophet if their view is correct.
            Christianity teaches The Trinity which can be clearly seen in the baptism accounts of Jesus. Jesus also in multiple places makes claims to be equal with GOD; which the Jews are correct to account that as blasphemy if it is untrue. Hence the accounts where they pick up stones to stone Him. If however it is true then the Jews are wrong.
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            At the end of the day you must choose a side. Either Jesus came to give himself as an atonement sacrifice for all sin for all time or He did not. There is NO middle ground. Seems like a pretty safe bet to me to discount the group as FALSE that are making claims about someone that the very person’s own claims about himself are in direct contradiction to. Twofold when the group making the claims occur some 700 years later in history than that individual. They have the whole story written down in front of them and still can NOT refute or discount it?
            .
            Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”
            .
            Luke 18:19 “Why do you call Me good? Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.
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            John 10:29-31 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
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            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

        • Daniel D Aminu says:

          my friend try again and going through the beginning; time of Adam and Eve, their punishment after their sin.!: what did GOD told the women above giving birth and the man about farming… you must have to humble yourself and go for more knowledge.. your brain lack much…
          thanks

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          • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

            so do you want to tell us that pregnancy is a curse? pregnancy rather uplift a woman in the glorious qur’an that “respect the womb that bore you” (5:1). also the bible disagrees with the concept of original sin and so no one can die for sins of another in the book of ezekiel 18:20-21as follows
            20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the
            iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the
            righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the
            wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he
            hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he
            shall surely live, he shall not die.

        • Nuhu Daniel says:

          Allah is not God because he does not reveals his identity to any one not even Mohamme. But God Almighty revealed himself to all the prophets of old and even in this generation through the person of Jesus Christ.
          Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9 and we see Jesu today in our vision and prayers, he reveals himself to some muslims who sincerely desire to know the true God. People like Zak Gariba, Daniel Shayesteh from Lebanon, ad many others. Jesus promise to be with with us till the end of time.
          Matthew 28:20 ” I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
          Matthew 18:20 KJV: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

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          • Abdul lateef olushola says:

            please Christians it is the greatest sin you are committing by calling Jesus your lord /saviour because Mary the mother of Jesus used to call Alaha (in Aramaic) her God check your gospel also Jesus said the greatest commandment is to believe in one God your only ticket to paradise is to belief that Jesus and Muhammad (p.b.u.h) and others before them are prophets and God/Alaha(in Aramaic) is the only true God not Trinity John: 17:3

          • kaleem ullah says:

            how can you claim that the bible is the world of God …..your’s own researchers claim that new testament was not existed at the time of jesus….it was written after him…..bible,s writers claim themselves that they wrote it by listening the insident of jesus from people

          • Teresa says:

            Amen Jesus’ words are powerful and he is sweet and humble too. He was crucified for claiming to be the Son of God. But more importantly he was crucified for our sins. He bore the judgement for them in his body. The Lamb of God and the Savior of the world. If you don’t believe in his true identity you stand condemned. All the righteous deeds in the world couldn’t save you.Because our righteousness can not measure up to God’s standards. This is why He sent his Son to the earth. Believe in Jesus and you will be saved. John 3:16

          • Aalim says:

            Muslims appeal to their belief that Allah sent a messenger over many years to deliver the message of the Quran to an illiterate man named Muḥammad, who repeated to scribes what he was allegedly told by the angel Gabriel. Muslims tell the world to accept this witness of one man as being truth.

            Muslims reject the Bible because it was not written in the days Jesus was still alive. The power of the Bible’s witness however is that it was written by multiple people who were witnesses to the life and times of Jesus Christ. Jesus did not come to write a book, Jesus came to give eternal life to anyone who is willing to accept such a free gift. It is true the Christian scriptures were not written until after the death of Jesus Christ. If you read of the explosive growth of Christianity and the missionary trips the disciples made in the early years, do you really believe they had much time to write when such an important life and death (eternal) message is at hand? The necessity to start writing what they had been preaching was to clearly preserve for future generations what they had been preaching from the very beginning.

            Islam was birthed in warfare, . A multitude of Christian believers were martyred in the early church as it continued to spread like a wild fire. Those who willingly accepted Christianity knew that it may be a death sentence for them.

            Muslims like to claim that Bible Scholars discredit the Christian Bible. The reason I am uncomfortable with such assertions is (1) you don’t have to be a Christian to be a Bible Scholar, (2) under Sharia law, an equivalent Quran Scholar would be put to death because Allah cannot defend himself, and (3) many of the theories that attempt to discredit Christian scripture while popular among critics are vigorously and well defended by their opponents.

            Muslim’s may understand the Quran, but it is obvious they don’t take the time to read and understand the Christian Bible.

          • Faizan says:

            Nobody has even seen Allah…. And when Moses wanted to see him, Allah showed a mere speck of his power and moses was blinded for some time….. The writer by the way, you were wrong in the beginning itself…. The Torah, bible and the Quran, all are the books sent to the earth by different preachersby one god itself….. But there is legit proof that qQuran is the only one which has not gone through any changes…. The bible and Torah are altered so much that the meaning itself has changed

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            @FAIZAN – Your assertion that The Torah and The Holy Bible are much altered from the originals is not supported by the evidence. As a matter of fact the evidence shows much the opposite. I suggest you go do more research on the subject.

          • Fagazman says:

            Do you really see Jesus or you see Robert Powell and other who act as Jesus, cause you put there pictures every where, you even make pendants of them around your necks, now tell me if you cant see these actors and claim you see Jesus

          • Muslim person says:

            Let me explain to you a concept your simple mind didn’t bear to acknowledge: there are five pillars in Islam; belief in Allah, his angels, his books, his prophets and belief in qadar (that god chooses what will happen) good and bad. So, belief in Allah is that you belief in Him, the Almighty, even if you never saw him and that is from the evidence in his books and prophets. He is the one who created the prophets, including who you believe to be the son of god (Jesus- peace be upon him) which is a completely false concept as it says in the ever-glorious holy Quran that Allah was not born nor will have a son. May allah guide you to the straight path of Islam that you failed to believe in, I advise everyone who sees this to go search Islam and focus on the core concepts such as believing in Allah SWT and the five pillars. As long as I am here I will also note that all terrorists are nothing related to Islam as the Quran says not to kill an innocent soul and god shall punish all the kufar (sinners, polytheists, etc.) in hell, He is the strongest and oft-knowing.

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            If you are a Christian and still want to claim that ALLAH IS NOT THE NAME OF THE GOD IN THE BIBLE, you got to convince all your Arab Christian Brethren to Remove “Allah” from All Their Bibles and all Their Churches and All Their Websites. Unless they do that and replace it with ANOTHER WORD, I will NOT TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY AND YOUR CLAIM IS BASELESS.

        • Aisha says:

          Indeed people lack knowledge. They only choose and makes sense on the verses that are suitable for them. May Allah guide them . I don’t remember any verse where Isa proclaimed to be God as much as people as in Christians are telling people.

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          • Hamzat labby says:

            Allah is not God Almighty he said simply Satan in disguise trying to send people to hell by developing a religion to go against His Almighty

          • Abubakar says:

            Islam is the latest light. In today’s technological context; I see it as the latest of of faith. Why is there from version 1.0 and above. Why do you think God will not bring more light to his servants because of the love he have for us.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

        • Armin says:

          in Jewish religion of today (and before !) and Islam , human child borns without sin. Just in a changed religion called Christianity human child borns with sin. That’s all because of some verses and ideologies Devil Paul added to bible. Like:

          Romans 5:12 “Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. By one man’s disobediance many were made sinners.”(letters of paul to roman, not letters of jesus to roman)

          Jews don’t accept this, it’s against law of Moses, deut 24:16
          “Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.”

          Against the word of jesus :” i have not come for the righteous , but for the sinners!!” So all of us are not sinful, paul did not pay attention while he was writing those letters.

          in islam also this is not accemtable, it’s against the word of god, “…No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another…” (Quran 6:164)

          Now you know how Devil Paul changed Christianity.

          So when sin does not passes on, there is no need for sacrifice, sacrifice story of Jesus is a lie. In Quran god is saying god raised Jesus alive a night before, and another one was made to resemble him to them,and they took that one and killed him. Surah al-nisa 157
          Now you know how Devil paul changed christianity.

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          • Dastaan says:

            Be-ismAllah e Rehman Nraheem.
            There was no religion but Islam since begenning , Adam was a muslim. Prophet Ibrahim was a true muslim. Prophet Musa and Essa /Jessus all were Muslims. It simply was the evolution of a knowledge that was to get delivered according to growth of mankind mental level to understand and accept if they have a knowledge. When Essa passed away the people who took Essa as a son of GOD (maaz Allah…God forbit) start being called Christians and the same way were Jews when left the path of the righteous and start preaching other than Islam what Mussa brought in the book from God. All original Testament had clearly indicated for the next big Prophet and the Book from God. Bible you are reading is not the right one… and for the same reason this whole setup who are watching their efforts and money they spent over the centuries to twist the truth now demads also to change the Quran….

            If you claim Jessus is a son of God than show me God’s wife…
            if you claim Jessus is a son of God because he did not have a father than why not Adam fit more into this since He even does not had a mother !
            think hard… and now what will you say about the test tube babies are born or the babies from the belly’s of their mother without having a sex ?

            OPEN YOUR EYES OH YOU ALL MAN KIND WHO READS THIS. REPENT TO GOD , OBTAIN KNOWLEDGE AND INVESTIGATE WITHOUT PREJUDICE SO THAT YOU CAN BE BLESSED BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE AND THE JUDGMENT DAY IS BROUGHT ONTO YOU.
            (Subhan Allah e Amma Yashrekoon)

          • Sam says:

            If u r true then give me answer why Allah will deceit all humans by doing like this bcz he is God he is not a human why he would deceit

          • nina naimy says:

            The person you call “Devil Paul” left a life where he was a greatly respected religious leader to choose a life that left him in a dungeon, beaten, stoned, whipped, and eventually martyred. I’m sorry, I have yet to hear one argument against Christianity and for Islam that is rational.

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            Peace be on you HAMZAT LABBY
            If you say one of them worships satan then you are worshiping satan because all of The three religions worship the god of Abraham. So if god of abraham is satan then you worship satan. Also if you believe That god is a moon pagan god then you are worshiping the Moon pagan god. Because all worship God of Abraham.

            If you are a Christian and still want to claim that ALLAH IS NOT THE NAME OF THE GOD IN THE BIBLE, you got to convince all your Arab Christian Brethren to Remove “Allah” from All Their Bibles and all Their Churches and All Their Websites. Unless they do that and replace it with ANOTHER WORD, I will NOT TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY AND YOUR CLAIM IS BASELESS.

            YOU THINK ALL CHRISTIAN SAY GOD?
            How many of you think Christian Say God?
            You know better bcoz the majority of Christian do not speak English and its for sure NO PROPHETS NEVER USE THAT WORD AND JESUS HIMSELF NEVER USED THAT WORD.
            ITS AN ENGLISH WORD. THERE WAS NO ENGLISH LANGUAGE UNTIL THE NORMAN INVADED THE SAXON IN THE YEAR 1066 AD. A Thousand years after the MESSIAH JESUS (PBUH). But the word Allah was Here because the word Allah is part of the Semitic Language.

        • Athul says:

          Jesus indeed prophecied some one after him… But is Definitely not Mohammed….. Thats the conclusion….
          Umar… It is you who have to go a really long way….
          God bless you…

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          • Shabeer says:

            Please tell me who was the one that Jesus had prophesised after him. If it was not Muhammed (pbuh), then who is still coming. You accept that someone was coming after Jesus, but you deny Muhammed (pbuh) as the one. So, pleeeease explain your contradiction.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            Shabeer – The HOLY SPIRIT is the name of the one you seek to answer your question. He came down from heaven after Jesus ascended during Pentecost. He is also the third person of the Trinity.

          • Ahmed says:

            @ Mark Heavlin – You mean to say the holy spirit came only after Jesus – please check your Bible

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            @Ahmed – I suggest a full reading of Chapter 14 of John and Chapter 2 of Acts.
            .
            John 14:15-17 15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you do know Him, for He abides with you and will be in you.
            .
            Acts 2:1-4 1 When the day of Pentecost came, the believers were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like a mighty rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

        • Nolia says:

          no one will go to heaven accept through him(Jesus christ ) i hope and believe that u muslims believe that Jesus was sent by GOD that he must save us from his wrath.If you only believe that God send jesus, and jesus is the son of God(john 3 v 16) and that jesus was there before everything was created ( JOHN 1) .Tis is the high time for us, the people who were created by the same God to be led away from the trueth. let us believe in God through Jesus who give life in abundant for the word of God in john says NO ONE WILL GO TO HEAVEN ccept if he or she accept Jesus and be aborn again christian. Lets follow jesus and do what he wants us to do. For he said he is the way the trueth and life no one can go to the fathe (GOD) ACCEPT THROUG JESUS not any other name. The way to heave is JESUS only NOT ANY THING.

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          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            As Muslims we have no choice. We had said in many words:

            ” WE BELIEVE IN ONE CREATOR, WE BELIEVE IN ALL HIS PROPHETS, WE BELIEVE, THAT JESUS (peace be upon him) WAS ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST PROPHETS OF GOD, THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH AS WELL AS THE WORD OF GOD,(Be) THAT HE WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY- WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENTION (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today),THAT HE GAVE LIFE TO THE DEAD BY GOD’S PERMISSION, AND THAT HE HEALED THOSE BORN BLIND AND THE LEPERS BY GOD’S PERMISSION.”

            JESUS FOR JEWS ONLY These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them saying, Go YE NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans ENTER YE NOT: But GO YE rather unto THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. Matthew 10:5-6
            And behold a woman of Canaan came … and cried unto him saying, have mercy on me .. my daughter is seriously possessed with a devil.
            But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying. SEND HER AWAY: for she crieth after us.
            But he answered and said,
            I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
            But she came and knelt before him, saying. Lord, help me.
            But he answered her and said, It is Not Fair To Take The Children’s Bread And CAST IT TO THE DOGS. (Matt15:22-26
            It goes to the credit of this Jewish prophet,that he practised what he preached. In his lifetime he never converted a single Gentile (non-Jew). And of his hand-picked elect (his twelve disciples), he made sure that they belonged to his tribe so that his other prophecy might Find fulfilment:
            “when the son of man (Jesus pbuh referring to himself) shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye (the disciples) also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel” (Matthew 19: 28)

        • Kunle says:

          “If Jesus indeed prophesided some one after him, who is he that you know todate”?

          The prophesy of Christ doesn’t mean Muhammad, but the Holy Spirit of God If may ask is Muhammad a Holy Spirit?
          He is not and it can-never be all what is call sin was found in Muhammad kill (jihadist, war) fornication (more than one wife). what Jesus Condemn was all prophet were teaching Jesus told us not to lost after woman….

          “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart”. Matthew 5:28

          Muhammad committed this sin with his adopted son’s wife shaheed for him to marry to the lady he sent shaheed to the war and he perish then Muhammad marry to shaheed wife.

          Muhammad is a lier he said earth is flat grand Flat earth:

          The Quran is laden with verses which hint towards the impression of a “flat” earth. Surah 13:3, 15:19, 50:7, 51:48, 71:19, 20:53 and many more write that the earth is “spread out”, “Laid out”, or “like a carpet”. Yet due to modern scientific discovery we know that the earth is actually in the shape of a circular sphere.

          The sun settles in a muddy spring: (river)

          In surah 18:86, the Quran describes the sun as setting into a muddy spring. Yet we know due to modern scientific discovery that the setting of the sun is caused by the circular and rotational properties of our planet. There exists no place where the sun physically “sets

          With all the above prove,
          Muhammad is not what Jesus mean in that prophecy and it can-never be.

          Se the confirmation of that prophecy and how it came to pass in the book of act of apostle chapter 2 verses 1 to 4…

          1. And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

          2. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

          3. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

          4. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

          Lamentations 3:40
          “Let us search out and examine our ways, and turn back to the LORD;

          And Isaiah 55:7
          “let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.” Christ is the only way….

          John 14:6
          Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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          • Weli says:

            Saint
            Why do we have to bother about after life. There’s no prof that heaven or hell exists apart from long time written accounts of unsubstantiated claims of some desert dwellers who might have witnessed mirage which is common effect after prolong expuure to desert heat. Anyone who spends weeks in a desert without suntanuce is guaranteed to have delusion

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            @WELI – Know the TRUTH so that it can set you FREE.
            .
            John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
            .
            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            “If you didn’t study islam, Please don’t say anything about Islam.”
            It is such a shame that most Christians know so little about Islam, but have so much to say.
            Allah(God) has Not Created Anything Better Than Reason

            you have NOT read your own bible and you want me to believe that you have read the quran

            You will not be asked about your #Culture in your GRAVE.
            And you will not be judged based on your father’s last name
            nor your relatives religious activities…
            You were born ALONE
            You will Die ALONE
            You will be judged ALONE

            PLEASE DO REMEMBER, EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.

        • serir ilhem says:

          thank you Umar for such argument
          the writer is contradicting himself several times in the body of his article, it is a pity that with all the knowledge he gets from qur’an this could not inspire him the good and right path
          Allah the Almighty said
          Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided.
          then the writer is so self confident aBOUT HIS SOURCES FROM THE BIBLE THAT HE BLINDLY TRUSTS . let him check contemporary christians about their bewilderment towards the distortion. not me to show him that but kindly tell him thsi is the argument that your demystifcied sources cannot help a seeker of truth tobe honest and objective
          review your sources except those from qur’an

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          • Mark Heavlin says:

            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

      • sheriff says:

        Jesus taught salvation via repentance and serving and acceptance of One God only. This is entiring into life. The Greatest Commandment according to Jesus: – One of the teachers of the law (law of Moses-Torah) came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” He Jesus answered: ““The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Jesus was quoting from the words of Moses in Deut. 6:4. And the scribes said unto him, of a truth, Teacher, thou hast well said that he is one; and there is none other but he: ’There is no commandment greater than these.” [not even paul’s crucifiction lying theory].
        He says, “God is Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth” (John 4:24). “It is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.” (Matthew 4:10).. He never told people to worship him. According to teh Bible, He said in vain do they worhipping and following vainly the doctrines of men.
        Paul teaches the Cross and the Trinity was formulated in 325 AD and the holy ghost was added to the trinity in 381by the churches NOT BY GOD or Jesus…
        Jesus was a servant of God a true prophet. • The Bible says…This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.” [Matthew 21:11] .. Jesus says, “”I was sent only to the lost sheep of the Children or nation of Israel.” Matthew 15:24. He further told his disciples, “Do not go among the Gentiles, or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel” (Matthew 10:5-6). Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people” [Luke 24:19:].
        None of these prophet taught that they were to be worshipped, rather they taught that they are but servants of the One Merciful and Supreme God, for He alone deserves all Servitude and Adoration. The Quran says: ” “To all nation and generation did God sent His teaching to, via the medium of Messengers or prophets. We (God alone) did not send any messenger except (to preach) in the tongue of his people, in order to clarify things for them.” Quran 14:4. ..” ..”We (God, the Majestic) gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles.” Quraan 2:87
        God says in the Quran: “It is not (possible) for any human being unto whom God (Allah) had given the Scripture and wisdom and the prophet-hood that he should afterwards have said unto mankind: Be slaves of me instead of God; but (what he said was): Be ye (people) faithful servants of the Lord (ONL)Y…Quran 3:80.
        Jesus said, all of You who Submit your will to God, are my true Brothers and Sisters (Mark 3:31-35) .. The bible states,”And if we are careful to obey all this law before the LORD our God, as he has commanded us, that will be our righteousness.” Deut 6:25…. God is the “The Only True God” of John 17:3),…
        In the Quran, God say,”GOD (Himself) bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise, there is no god except He; the Living, the Eternal). [Quran 3:18]

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        • James says:

          My friends heres some old and new testament answers for you! its good to know the Truth! the bible was taken by Mohamid and added to the Koran, since he heard the stores perhaps he might have made a lot of mistakes as there are many things in Loran taken from the bible but from the original texts your Koran has some mistakes. Bible verses below showing whom Jesus was and what He said he was.
          and so if what is written or spoken by Jesus is not true than he’s a lier and if so that also disqualifies the Koran since much is taken from the bible ! So Heres proof!
          Matthew 1:23 – “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

          Matthew 1:23 – “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

          Isaiah 9:6 – For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

          Isaiah 43:10,11 – “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
          Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 – (Jesus is the First and the Last)

          Isaiah 44:6 – (God is the Redeemer)
          2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) – “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

          Isaiah 44:24 – (God created the world by Himself alone)
          John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 – (Jesus made all things)

          John 1:1-3 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made… 1:14 – And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

          John 5:17,18 – “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

          John 5:23 – that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

          John 8:24 – “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM [He], you will die in your sins.”

          John 8:58 – Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

          John 10:30-33 – Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

          John 14:6-7 – Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

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          • kaleem ullah says:

            my bro …you made a good efford to proof that quran is stolen from bible…….if you have thought even once ,,,,,,,you can not make a decion aboute anything before studing…..if you study the quran you could not make such a statement ….quran is a world of God..there are some prophises in quran which are not found in bible….and these prophises are fullfilling today…
            Allah says in quran Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian…15;9….and the quran has not changed,,,,,but the bible is contradictive……

          • Howyoulivin says:

            Good word brother. Pray for the eyes of the blind to be made to see clearly the things of Almighty God. Peace and harmony among the saints. We do not argue or debate the Word and truths of Almighty Jehovah. We are called to, share, in love, and live as Christ lived.

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            ABUNDANCE OF FALSIFICATION TESTS
            For the sake of argument, were Muhammad the author of the Qur’an, with his sole mission and purpose in life being to accumulate as much power as possible throughout Arabia, then why does the Qur’an contain an abundance of falsification tests, such that were any one of them to be achieved or proven true by his many enemies and sceptics then it would have completely destroyed Islam as a religion. Here are just a few examples::
            “Then do they not reflect upon the Qur’an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.” [Chapter 4, verse 82]
            Say, “If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur’an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants.” [Chapter 17, verse 88]

            REVEALS KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN
            Advances in our understanding of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs have shown that the Qur’anic use of the Egyptian term ‘Pharaoh’ is historically accurate. This is in spite of the fact that all knowledge of the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs was unknown at the time of the Qur’anic Revelation.
            Knowledge of the old Egyptian hieroglyphs had been totally forgotten until they were finally deciphered in the 19th century CE with the discovery of the Rosetta Stone. The only source of knowledge of the religious past were the Bible-based stories in circulation, but Prophet Muhammad couldn’t have copied from the Bible because the Bible gets it wrong with regards to its use of the Egyptian term ‘Pharaoh’.
            Muhammad couldn’t have been the author of the Qur’an because its author consistently demonstrates knowledge of the unseen, which is not a trait of human beings.
            You can learn more about hieroglyphs and the historicity of the Qur’an here.
            9. PREDICTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE
            History has not always dealt kindly with Scriptures. The original Gospel of Jesus was lost in its infancy and replaced by the later works of anonymous writers. In fact prior to the Qur’an, every other revealed Scripture has either been lost or tampered with. It is in this backdrop that the author of the Qur’an makes a bold prediction about its preservation:
            “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian.” [Chapter 15, verse 9]
            One of the means by which the Qur’an has been perfectly preserved to this very day is through the language of the Qur’an itself:
            “And We have certainly made the Qur’an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?” [Chapter 54, verse 17]
            It is estimated that there are at least 10 million Muslims alive today who have memorised the entire Qur’an in its original Arabic language. In fact if every written copy of religious Scriptures in existence today were to be somehow destroyed then it is only the Qur’an that could be recreated perfectly, thanks to its mass memorisation.
            If Prophet Muhammad were the author of the Qur’an then he could not have guaranteed that the Qur’an would be perfectly preserved to this very day. This is because the track record of all other revealed Scriptures throughout history only serves to prove that the exact opposite is the case, that their loss and tampering is the norm.
            You can learn more about the preservation of the Qur’an here.
            10. REJECTION OF THE SUPERSTITIONS AND MYTHS OF THE ARABS
            Arab society had many groundless superstitious beliefs at the time of Prophet Muhammad. This is only natural given that they lacked the technology to examine the world around them and had high rates of illiteracy. It is estimated that the number of literate persons in the centre of the region of the Hijaz did not exceed seventeen [2]. History has recorded a large number of myths and superstitions pertaining to the Arabs and the Iraqi Islamic scholar Sayyid Mahmud Alusi has collected many of them. For example, the Arabs took their cows and the oxen to the bank of a stream for grazing. At times it so happened that the oxen drank water but the cows did not. Thereupon they thought that this was due to the evil spirits which had accommodated themselves between the horns of the oxen and were preventing the cows from drinking. In order therefore to drive away the bad spirits affecting the cows they hit the faces of the oxen [3].
            It was against this backdrop of ignorance that the Qur’an was revealed, utterly rejecting such superstition. The example that I will cover is the sun and moon, which were worshipped as gods by the Arabs. Rather than upholding these pagan beliefs, the Qur’an rejects them:
            “And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship.” [Chapter 41, verse 37]
            Moreover the Qur’an talks about the universe, particularly astronomy, using descriptions and terminology that is not out of place in modern times:
            “It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.” [Chapter 36, verse 40]
            “Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers and made the moon therein a [reflected] light and made the sun a burning lamp?” [Chapter 71, verses 15-16]
            There is also a notable incident recorded by the companions of Prophet Muhammad that on the same day his son Ibrahim died there was a solar eclipse and so the people linked the two events together. Prophet Muhammad personally denounced such beliefs, saying:
            “The sun and the moon do not eclipse because of the death or life (i.e. birth) of someone…” [4]
            There is absolutely no reason why Prophet Muhammad would go against the superstitions of his people, especially when he came from a tribal culture that blindly followed the traditions of their forefathers.
            CONCLUSION
            Sceptics/critics may attempt to argue away some of these points individually. However taken collectively, these arguments provide powerful and compelling evidence that the Qur’an could not have been an invention of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
            Who then, is the author? The answer to the question of authorship lies in the Qur’an itself:
            “Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by one mighty in Power.” [Chapter 53, verses 2-5]

        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “Paul teaches the Cross and the Trinity was formulated in 325 AD and the holy ghost was added to the trinity in 381by the churches NOT BY GOD or Jesus…”
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          Matthew 3:16-17 16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

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      • CabdiQaadir says:

        Muhammad is The Messenger of God/Allah. When Jesus returns he will follow Muhammad and follow his religion/way to submit to the Creator Allah. There is no arguing with you. Saitan has made it fair seeming to you that a man who eats and came in flesh could be A God? How misguided are you then. For every soul you manage to disuade of The Path To Allah. Then may God hold you responsible ANd accountable for those souls. Ameen.

        Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (Muhammad) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, Muhammad spoke The Quran inspired by God. but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. (The Qur’aan yet again)He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. Islam is complete the perfect religion Muhammad had fufilled Jesus’s promise peace be upon him. Jesus is refering to Muhammad.

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        • Hamzat labby says:

          Blatant lie its so obvious to see that the Koran is not God s word .there s no other revelation to man from God other than the Holy Bible. Satan knows too well that he can’t stand on his own that’s why he built his lies (Koran and Islam) on the foundation of truth with is the Holy Bible

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          • Abdurrazak says:

            Dear Brother,
            You are reading the bible but without understanding, see what bible says about its corruption-
            “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?”” (Jeremiah 8:8)
            Bible itself says scribes filled lying in me so how can you say the bible is God’s words?
            There is no Christian who believes in the bible- if bible is God’s words then see how many Christians believes in His words-
            Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful. (Joshua 1:8),
            How many Christians memorized the bible or a chapter from it? So the bible says to the bible readers-
            Hear this, you foolish and senseless people, who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear: (Jeremiah 5:21)
            The bible says I already corrupted you believe not, it said memorized me and save me from corruption but you not memorized, and shouting we are true believers?

          • Howyoulivin says:

            Let Jehovah God, our Father be true and lifted high and every “man” that comes against Him, be proved a liar. So says the Holy Scriptures. The inerrant, infallible, TRUE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD!
            Peace and the unity of the saints. 🙏🏽

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            PLEASE DO REMEMBER, EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.

            Blindly believe in their religion with no research in to other religions in this short life

            Muslims believe is consistent with what Christians believe and what Muslims do not agree with is not a sin in Christianity. The reverse is however not true i.e. can Christians afford to take risk of eternal punishment in hell fire by declaring Jesus son of God or God himself. This is the only unforgivable sin in Islam and leads straight to hell for ever.

            I believe in Jesus and Bible as directed in Quran and have read bible also in detail to try to take an independent view. This is the minimum all non muslims especially christians should do i.e they must at least read Quran with understanding to try to figure our the real truth and eliminate the risk of eternal hell fire. I am sure no one wants to be pennywise and pound foolish i.e. blindly believe in their religion with no research in to other religions in this short life of max 100 years at the cost of risk of eternal hell fire.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            “PLEASE DO REMEMBER, EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.”
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            Funny, that is NOT what THE HOLY BIBLE says. Read closely and understand so you will NOT be deceived.
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            John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
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            “Muslims believe is consistent with what Christians believe”
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            This is a BLATANT and BALD FACED LIE. Jesus Christ was born of a Virgin. Crucified, Died, Buried, and Resurrected on the 3rd day, Ascended to Heaven and is at the right hand of GOD the FATHER this is Christianity. Muslims not so much. As recorded by John on the island of Patmos about Jesus.
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            Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.

        • Mark Heavlin says:

          Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (Muhammad) will not come to you.
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          Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (Holy Spirit) will not come to you. Muhammad can not be the helper The Holy Spirit was here 700 years before Muhammad was born.
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          Act 2:1-11 1 When the day of Pentecost came, the believers were all together in one place.
          2 Suddenly a sound like a mighty rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. 5 Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound rang out, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking his own language.
          7 In wonder and amazement, they asked, “Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans?
          8 How is it then that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9 Parthians, Medes, and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome, 11 both Jews and converts to Judaism; Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the mighty works of God in our own tongues!”

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          • Ahmed says:

            @ Mark Heavlin – You say the helper who Jesus foretold will come after him is the holy spirit – but the holy spirit was already present before jesus and also during his ministry – check your Bible Luke 1:15, 1:41, 1:67 – also see 2:26

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            @Ahmed – I suggest a full reading of Chapter 14 of John and Chapter 2 of Acts.
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            John 14:15-17 15 If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you do know Him, for He abides with you and will be in you.
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            Acts 2:1-4 1 When the day of Pentecost came, the believers were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like a mighty rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

      • script says:

        Man’s conscience is a fallible basis for God’s judgement alone. Man’s conscience may and can be dulled like one that was seared by hot iron. Note that as we are, just mere men, susceptible to fallibility.

        1 TIMOTHY 4:2
        Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

        There are undoubtedly consciences that are corrupted with evil.

        TITUS 1:15

        Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

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        • Howyoulivin says:

          Peace and blessings
          Continue praying for the Kingdom of God, on earth, as it is in heaven. Pray for those who are corrupt in their thinking. Peace

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      • Kadija says:

        If it’s mentioned in the Bible about the coming helper and from the brothers. Then by now he should be here if up till now you don’t see him and the world waited for 1000s of years you should use your common sense that it most be Muhammed SAW. Because right now it will be useless for another new prophet to come since now we are in the age of civilisation. People now belong to a religion that allowed them to understand the reality of the oneness of God and respect for righteousness. So the only thing we require now is for jesus to return and side with the Islamic religion and live his life for another 40 years. He will marry and live an Islamic way of life till he demise. And he will do that. That’s what we are waiting.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “He will marry and live an Islamic way of life till he demise. And he will do that. That’s what we are waiting.”
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          You have been deceived. This is Jesus talking with John on the island of Patmos at the beginning of Revelation. And the second passage is when Jesus returns to earth.
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          Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.
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          Mark 13:24-27 24 However, after the tribulation of those days, ‘The sun will be darkened,
          and the moon will not give its light, 25 the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And He will send out the angels to gather His elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

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          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            In the words of the Master himself.
            Therefore I say unto you (Jews),THE KINGDOM OF GOD SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU (Jews), and shall be given TO A NATION BRINGING FORTH THE FRUITS THEREOF. (Matt21: 43)

            Sing Unto The Lord A New Song, and his praise from the end of the earth …(Isaiah 42:10).

            A new song may be a reference to a new scripture in a language other than the language of the Israelite scriptures. This interpretation seems consistent with a more explicit mention of someone who will be speaking to people not in Hebrew or Aramaic but in ARABIC. THE PRAISE OF GOD AND HIS MESSENGER MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IS CHANTED FIVE TIMES DAILY FROM THE MINARETS OF MILLIONS OF MOSQUES ALL OVER THE WORLD.

            The other aspect of Prophet Jesus’ message was his invitation of people to follow his ‘way’, Prophets brought divine laws or confirmed those brought by previous prophets, and invited people to worship God by obeying the divinely revealed laws. They also practically demonstrated for their followers how one should live by the law. Consequently, they also invited those who believed in them to follow their way as the correct way to come close to God.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            “In the words of the Master himself.
            Therefore I say unto you (Jews),THE KINGDOM OF GOD SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU (Jews), and shall be given TO A NATION BRINGING FORTH THE FRUITS THEREOF. (Matt21: 43)”
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            This is Jesus talking about the CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
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            “Sing Unto The Lord A New Song, and his praise from the end of the earth …(Isaiah 42:10).
            A new song may be a reference to a new scripture in a language other than the language of the Israelite scriptures. This interpretation seems consistent with a more explicit mention of someone who will be speaking to people not in Hebrew or Aramaic but in ARABIC.”
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            Stop taking Scripture from THE HOLY BIBLE OUT OF CONTEXT. This is NOT talking about muslims some 1400 + years later.
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            “THE PRAISE OF GOD AND HIS MESSENGER MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IS CHANTED FIVE TIMES DAILY FROM THE MINARETS OF MILLIONS OF MOSQUES ALL OVER THE WORLD.”
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            It would seem that you are the one who is attempting to use subterfuge through your words here. STOP using the English word “GOD” when you clearly through your meaning meant to use the word “allah”. They are NOT the same being. GOD is YAHWEH the great “I AM”. Allah is NOT.
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            “The other aspect of Prophet Jesus’ message was his invitation of people to follow his ‘way’,”
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            Jesus was NOT a prophet HE IS THE SON OF GOD. Jesus in His own words.
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            John 8:57-59 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58 “Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple area.
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            John 10:30-31 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
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            “Prophets brought divine laws or confirmed those brought by previous prophets, and invited people to worship God by obeying the divinely revealed laws. They also practically demonstrated for their followers how one should live by the law. Consequently, they also invited those who believed in them to follow their way as the correct way to come close to God.”
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            Jesus did not say to follow His way. He said HE WAS THE WAY. Again His words.
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            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

      • Adil says:

        Stupidities led to Jesus being God or son of God, it’s all emotional games christains play to cover up their faiths ..all these Prophets came after Abraham and all came with the word of Real Lord Allah, you can name the Lord as you like but He’s the one who sent all Prophets to correct the immoral men….be it Moses , Jesus and Muhammad…God created Jesus cause he can do so that’s Godly like Adam..with these miracles we are tested…peace

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          Your assertion about Jesus’ nature is NOT supported Biblically. Therefore, it is a LIE.
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          John 1:1-3 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.
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          John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

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    • Helena says:

      Ofcourse not all muslims go to hell. Muslims who do not follow the hate passages of their religion and live a normal life are free.

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        • Adly says:

          Yes Jesus was a Muslim. Yes he said follow my way means follow the correct path, the correct life.basically it means (WAY OF LIFE).☝🏻

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          • Jeanette Miller says:

            JESUS was not a Muslim. He was Jewish. Musslims comes are from Abraham and Sarah’s handmaid having Ishmel. God’s chosen people are through Abraham and his son Isaac that he had with Sara. That’s who God made the covenant with not the Musslims.

          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            The name Muslim in Arabic means “One Who Submits To The Will Of God.”

            “…It is He who named you Muslims both before and in this [scripture, the Qur’aan].” Qur’aan, (22):78

            The foundation of Jesus’ message was Submission To The Will Of God, because that is the foundation of the religion which God prescribed for man since the beginning of time. God says in Chapter Aal ‘Imraan, the third chapter of the Qur‘aan, verse 19:
            “Truly, the religion in the sight of Allaah is Islaam [submission].3:19

            In Arabic, submission to God’s will is expressed by the word ‘Islam.
            When people hear the term Islam, they naturally tend to think of the organized religion of Islam which started in the 7th century CE with Prophet Mohammed. However, in Arabic the word Islam comes from the root “Salema” which means peace, purity, submission,and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means peace and purity achieved by submitting to the will of God and obedience to his law. Muslim Are Those Who Submit. Muslims believe that all those who submitted to the will of God in line with divine revelation received before the advent of formal Islam with Prophet Mohammed, were Themselves Also Muslim. So coming from this understanding, Muslims believe that we are part of one continuing faith community with Jesus and Mary. Mary, Jesus, and the disciples were all “Muslims” because they Submitted To God.

            In the Gospel according to Matthew 7:22, Jesus is quoted as saying: “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord Shall Enter The Kingdom Of Heaven, but he who does the Will Of My Father In Heaven.” In this statement, Jesus places emphasis on “the Will of the Father,” Submission of the HUMAN WILL TO THE WILL OF GOD.
            In John 5:30, it is narrated that Jesus also said: “I Can Do Nothing On My Own Authority; as I hear, I judge and My Judgement Is Just, because I Seek Not My Own Will but the WILL OF HIM who Sent me.”

            Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered. [Arabic “Muslimoon”] (Quraan 2:136)

        • TRUTH DOESNT HIDE says:

          Oh it saddens me to see people ignorantly saying things they either don’t have knowledge or refuse to use their brains. To start with
          * those who insulted a prophet of God been rapist, evil doer, approving sex trade, a cheat and others, may God forgive you because you don’t know what you doing
          * those who claimed God Himself has a begotten son. Is indeed the least anyone can ever think of God.oh God is reduced to that level of being the father of a man born by a woman. Even a man, Adam who wasn’t born of a woman, couldn’t be referred to as son of God because His dignity is above having a human child. If he needed a child, Engels would have been His children.
          * Islam and Quran respect prophet Issah, peace and blessings of God be upon him, referred to as Jesus by Christians. The Quran has given better regards to the prophet of God and has a full detailed Surat of the mother, Marian( peace and blessings of God be upon her). When she conceived, many people of her time called her names which were immoral but Islam recognizes her and her virtue.
          * who wrote the Bible and who wrote the Quran? If Quran was revealed to an illiterate, who could neither read nor write at the beginning but was able to do so later with God’s command. Then the question is “Where are these information coming from?” When was Bible written and who wrote the Bible? If God had not made Jesus Christ himself to write the bible or written when he was with them, where did these people get their information from. Bible is just like a report not original. Those authors or writers reported what they claimed happened, even Paul that everyone read a lot about. Reporters can be right or wrong.
          * Quran testified to Touraah and Injeel which were not reports written by others but God Himself.
          * Was Jesus a Christian? Did he preach christianity? Did he go to church?
          * the right question is that where are the informations in the Bible from, who started Christianity and when was church used as a place for worship?

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          • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

            if jesus was not a muslem, who was he? because he was not a christian either because christianity came long time after him

          • Nero says:

            Christianity has been in existence for thousands of years before the era of Jesus Christ. Its been practiced in Egypt long ago if i’m correct.

          • Harb says:

            Islam has no historical record prior to the 7th century. There were first Saracens with no written Koran at all subjugated all of North Africa and even into Spain. The The Koran also came much later after the time of Mohammad. The Haddiths even tell of the purging of Korans during the time of the supposedly “rightly guided” caliphs. Doesn’t that make you wonder what they were trying to get rid of?

            Copies of the Koran found in Yemen in the ceiling/walls of a mosque had thousands of very old Korans in it and their were a lot of discrepancies between them.

          • L says:

            To answer the poster, Nero, who said…”Christianity has been in existence for thousands of years before the era of Jesus Christ. Its been practiced in Egypt long ago if i’m correct.”

            Your are referring to Roman Catholicism, which is a cult based on these things and which adopted some of the original Christians’ teachings to gain the power they were losing at the time. The Romans were threatened by this new to them movement of God (of course, they did not recognize it as such). This is where the old pagan teachings morphed into the pagan teachings of the Catholic Church that still exist today. Satan loves imitating truth and diluting it in the process and this is but one example. The Roman Catholic history involves either assimilating other religions to retain power or wiping them out), and does not teach the truth of the original scriptures of the Bible. In fact, it is corrupt, self-serving and violent (look at the crusades for just one example). This “church” sadly deceives its followers, and as much as they are now allowed to read their bibles (a relatively new development in their history), are required to have a priest interpret it to maintain the church’s power. BUT…if you look closely at their version of the Bible…which has added, uninspired by God books placed between the two testaments, God still preserves His message of unconditional love & salvation through Jesus Christ (not Mary nor the pope) to those who might be searching for the truth and read it.

            “Christianity” in today’s modern society includes many different cults and false religions, Catholicism claiming to be the first to have inspiration & the truth and this loud proclamation puts them at the forefront…giving them the power they seek. The term “Christianity” no longer has its original meaning in our society. Its meaning has been corrupted, you might say.

            The original texts of the Bible tell God’s message of salvation. His message still rings loud & true today in spite of human shortcomings in translation. Some of our English copies stay true to it. This is where careful study in the original languages is important because overtime, sadly, many copies that are now available are not accurate. We need to be careful and be sble to identify what is right & what is wrong. This is because Satan will attack what is right and this is effective to draw people away from God’s truth and so gives people reason to try to discredit through that means. God certainly has the power to keep His Word pure…no doubt, but Satan has set out to deceive and this is a very effective way for him to gain followers who believe their church’s teachings and who never study to find out what is true.

          • James says:

            Christian were fists called Christians in the New testament right after Jesus death some year later-Acts 11:26
            ,and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

        • Monica Mooney says:

          Kurt, you are right! May God continue to give you strength to stand up for the truth.

          Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

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      • Garry says:

        Yes Muslims will go to Hell.
        Can any person (all are sinners in God’s eyes – Romans 3:23) ever do anything good enough to please a holy and righteous God? The answer is no.
        Since God must punish the sinner for offending Him (the wages of sin is death – Romans 6:23) and our works are of no merit, then how are we going to escape so great a righteous judgment?
        The only way to escape the righteous judgment of God is to trust in the provision He has made. This provision is found in His son, Jesus. “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life,” Jesus’ sacrifice is the only provision acceptable to God the Father.
        If anybody does not believe this – Muslims included – they are going to hell. That is what the Bible teaches.

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        • Abdul Hakeem says:

          That whoever believe in him will not perish…God is telling all is us here that whoever believe in the message he has sent him to deliver to the people and follow his path because he was a prophet and messenger of God, he was sent to deliver God’s messages just has other prophets was sent, God has no son, we are all nothing but slaves and we owe him every worships and praises because if he will, he would command the world to collapse and nobody would ask him why….And you say in your first line that “all Muslims will go to hell” 🙂 what can I say. May almighty Allah (God) forgive you, forgive your heart and forgive your fingers you use to type those messages.

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          • Monica Mooney says:

            May the Lord God almighty forgive you. Your are deceived by your false scriptures…which have been twisted and polluted by satan. The only true word of God is the Holy Bible.
            The Bible was written first by many years. The Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) was writing from approximately 1200 to 160 BC (BCE). The New Testament was written from around 65 to 95 AD (CE). The Quran was written in the 7th century.

          • Greatness. says:

            Jesus said ‘I AM (He IS) The WAY, The TRUTH and The LIFE. He didn’t say, He was showing the way, neither did He say that He was telling or leading to Truth. He definitely didn’t say He was teaching how to live a life of ‘good deeds’
            He actually claimed to be all of them.
            If Muhammad received Jesus on his deathbed, I won’t be surprised to see him in heaven!
            Otherwise…

        • Rich says:

          Well said. We can never get to heaven by our own merit. We are never going to be good enough. The GOOD news is that we can be forgiven!

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          • Ehsan Ramjan says:

            (Matthew15:9)(KJV)

            BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for doctrines the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. See also Mark 7:7

            This was the religion conveyed in the message of Jesus(Peace be upon him); SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF THE ONE TRUE GOD BY OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            “(Matthew15:9)(KJV)
            BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for doctrines the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. See also Mark 7:7”
            .
            This is Jesus speaking of the Jewish priests and pharisees of His day. STOP using Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT as you do NOT know what you are even saying.
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            .
            “This was the religion conveyed in the message of Jesus(Peace be upon him); SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF THE ONE TRUE GOD BY OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS.”
            .
            Again you have zero idea of what you are even attempting to talk about. Jesus talking about himself.
            .
            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

      • James says:

        Sorry Helena not an correct answer!
        CORRECT Answer-from the Holy Book the Bible-
        Roman 3:20-25Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
        Righteousness Through Faith
        21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[a] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[b] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

        Bible- Romans 10: “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[f]

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      • Hamzat labby says:

        All Muslims will go to hell anybody that dies without accepting Jesus Christ as his or her personal Saviour will go to hell fire

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        • Ehsan Ramjan says:

          Keep Putting Words In Jesus’s Mouth May the God of Jesus Guide You to the Truth.

          Pray to Allah,Elohim,God,Dieu,Dius,Buh,Gott etc. by whatever name you know Him.
          Pray to your Creator, the Creator of the Universe and everything in it and in-between with sincerity ask Him to Guide You In Your Heart and in Your Mind to The Religion Of Truth and to make you pleased with it and you will find if you are sincere
          He will answer your Prayer and you will find the religion of truth enters your heart.

          If Islam wasn’t the truth it wouldn’t get the same amount of blind hate, people simply would not care enough to comment

          I am not worried about what people says because YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS.

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          • Mark Heavlin says:

            NOPE!!!! We Christians will let Jesus speak for himself.
            .
            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            NOPE!!!! We Christians will let Jesus speak for himself.
            .
            John 8:57-59 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58 “Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple area.

    • Ilonka says:

      No not all muslims go to hell. Not all Christians go to heaven either. It is not the fault of muslim children if they are indoctrinated into the religion of their parents. If they refuse the hate and killing which is a command against the infidels, then they are ok. Christian children who learn another message but also are capable of not believing it or do not want to follow it. This is the free choice we have.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        what do you mean by the term ‘hate’? where in the bible did Jesus describe prophet muhammad as a hate? please stop being mischievous.

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      • Monica Mooney says:

        Sorry, the bible is the infallible word of God, it saysin
        Romans 6:23English Standard Version (ESV)

        23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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        • joema says:

          If Isa (Jesus) has not mentioned in the bible that He’s God and because of that you believed that fact that He’s not God, and you still claim that bible is corrupt…..That’s hypocrisy. I challenge anyone to show me where its also quoted word for word in the bible that Isa (Jesus) is not God, may be that could short us (Christian) up permanently.
          Muslim want us to believe one man witness of Muhammad of Quran been revealed to him and disbelieve God’s revelation and multiple witness involved in bringing bible to pass.
          They always want to shovel it down our throat that Muhammad is a prophet, yet never prophecy. May be someone should show me ten prophecies given by Mohammed that’s never related to any prophecy mentioned in the bible before. I’ll will challenge you to it by bible references of anyone you mentioned that has been revealed before by bible who you claim is corrupt.
          How does it sound ? Allah so much wished to preserve Quran and allowed (while watching) bible to be corrupted.Does it mean his messages before hand were not valuable or mere waist of time? So he can guard jealously your Quran and allow other books before it destroyed or tampered with……What a lie from the pit of hell!
          It’s a cheap propaganda to ease away the truth. No wonder the world have learnt from it to discredit a product to boost their own product in business world.
          Jesus has not come to proclaim religion. He has come to give life and to give it more abundantly, even beyond this present world. He (Jesus) said who can know about heaven except one who comes from there. He is the way, truth and the life. He knows where he’s coming from and where he’s going. He’s not a novist of things in heaven. The only problem with the Muslim world is that they can phantom the possibility of God coming in the flesh to dwell among human.
          God gave different documented signs to all generations of His birth and wonders that ordinary man can’t do,yet the world reject Him. The if it was so imminent for God to send another “greater” prophet as many claim, one would have expected that a greater sign more than a virgin given birth would have ushered him to the earth. Rather than been born ordinarily, lived a normal life and died and never be just like ordinary man.

          If anyone really crave to know the true God without deceiving himself, he should call on Muhammad to prove himself or call on Jesus to prove Himself. Doing this sincerely,I bet you that of all my own Jesus will prove Himself.

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      • Hamzat labby says:

        All have heard the good news of Christ and it is your choice to accept God s provision for salvation or let Islam take whoever to hell. Satan has been spreading it’s lies for centuries since the 7 century he s been covering the religion trying to cover it up in Islamic countries with stupid rules and laws

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      • Greatness. says:

        ILONKA,
        Please know that anyone who dies without Jesus is lost forever…!!
        That’s what the Christian Bible (Book of books) teaches.

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      • NeilF says:

        Free choice?

        Most children who have ever lived, have died before reaching a significant age? What free will did they have? I suspect most Christians will simply say they go to Heaven by default? What free will does that demonstrate?

        If you’re brought up believing in Odin, do you go to Heaven or Hell? What free will is demonstrated?

        If you’re brought up believing no God exists, do you go to Heaven or Hell? What free will is demonstrated?

        And what right does a God have to judge any of us given the monstrous inhuman psychotic actions in the Bible for example. Promoting slavery? Butchering thousands of people for no reason?

        Let’s be frank. We have religions simply due to ignorance, and people thousands of years ago doing their best to explain the unexplainable. Unfortunately this has resulted in society indoctinating generation after generation, such this ignorance continuing to prevail.

        Time for us to grow up and shake off these hideous boogeyman stories!

        Consider just how skewed society is – The premise faith indoctinated into a child is somehow a virtue? Blindly believing in rediculous fairy tales is good while the ability to free think and require logical proof before believing in something is bad?

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    • bob says:

      You might want to ask a Muslim why they would spend eternity with God? Why don’t you ask them – they don’t have a clue.

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      • GIVE A CHANCE says:

        firstly, to go to the heaven, we have to be muslim. we can’t be a christian. because in christianity, jesus is accepted as a son of god. but it is not true. because, he was a person, he is like us he eats, drinks, sleeps also he is a prophet so he can show some miracles with the help of god. because of these miracles, we cant say that he is the son of the god. also, every person, each of us doesnt want to dissappear after we die. we want to live in a perfect situation forever even after we die. because of the fact that the god knows this true, the god will give an eternal life to us. and look at the universe and look at the people look at the everything around you, everything is for us. the god provides so many beautiful things to us. after giving these beautiful things to us, taking our lifes and not resurrecting us will be nonsense, and everything in the universe and also people will be meaningles, we lived and died and it is done. it is not senseful. also, some bad things happen in the world and sometimes some of us cant take the justice in the world. so, the god who gives so many beautiful things to us will definitely secure the justice after resurrect us. and lastly, if we see the eternal life before we die, each of us will believe in god. so, this wiill not an exam. but we are in an exam. so, ı recommend all of you to read Quran and give a chance to islam

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        • Daniel D Aminu says:

          JESUS IS THE ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN!!!
          for true Christians only.! {no label christians or muslims or any form of believe are save}
          just follow the truth and the light please…!!! heard about the 9year old girl molest?
          thank you friend.

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          • Armin says:

            In jewish religion age of marriage for a girl is 12, but , ceremonies and talking of the families can start several years before! Like 9 or 8 or 7 ! (No limitations on this one) prophet mohammad did the the samething. No sin.

    • salman says:

      Brother please read the latest version of Bible chapter number 3 sect 15 this begotten word has been removed by your own beloved Christians scholars and the reason mentioned by your Christians scholars is that begotten is a disrespect to Allah and mother marry . Allah is alone no son no father no one.Allah don’t need anyone

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        • Lawrence says:

          Dear Hamzat, Allah is merely the name of God in Arabic, Just like God (English), Gott (German), Dieu (French), and all the rest of the languages that need a semantic designation for God. Jesus, for example, spoke Aramaic and the word in that language for God is Alaha.
          I hope not to have been disagreeable – God bless – Lawrence

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      • Greatness says:

        Salmon know this: that VERSIONS of the Bible are merely copies made in a particular era and those versions come in the language of the people in whose era the COPY is made.
        I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT GOD IS ALREADY WRITING HIS WORD (THE BIBLE) IN THE HEARTS OF HIS BELIEVING CHILDREN. when Islam takes over the world very soon, the non believing worldly, so-called Christians will accept an Islam-supported REWRITTEN Christian Bible. Inside it there will be many inclusions (to authenticate Islam and other religions). People who are interested in knowing the truth that will make them free will be so few. It will be too late for people who refuse to seek truth today to save themselves from the tyranny that will soon engulf the world. Get a King James Bible and study (not just ‘read’) it so you can see the truth in it now before your Muslim Sheikh s sponso Edited copies which will soon be the only ones available….

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    • TRUTH DOESNT HIDE says:

      Jesus didn’t even say it after all. It was a narration or a report by someone or people that Jesus said what is written in the bible. Jesus wasn’t around at the time those things were written but were only reports about him, eventually all these couldn’t be concluded to be true

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      • Yusuf says:

        Isint it supposed to be infallible? So now you admit that the bible is not perfect after all? And there are additions and fabrications in it? So not God’s word? Because God can never make a mistake

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        • Hamzat labby says:

          Christians and Muslims don’t worship the same God so there s no need for comparison forget all the claims of your prophet Allah us simply not God Almighty

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    • Andres Galan says:

      This is only if you know about the Bible and it’s readings. To deny truth is to deny God. And if the Quran refers you to the gospe, l I would obey it.

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    • Laura says:

      Yes because GOD SAID HE WILL POUR HIS SPIRIT ON ALL PEOPLE! Nobody will be without knowing the truth HE WILL MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE TRUTH BEFORE HE COMES THE 2nd time IF YOU REJECTED THE TRUTH THAT IS YOUR CHOICE! God says to look for him with all your heart if you just believed what your parents taught you or others are doing than you chose to be ignorant and just go along you never cared to really know God and search for him for yourself! We are smart people and we go after and look for what we really want in life.

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    • rizka aulia says:

      Sir, I’d like to answer your last question which can break all of your premise. If Allah is able to perfectly preserve the text of the Qur’an, why is not He able to do the same with the Bible? Hmmm, You say very easily that the Qur’an is not God’s word. Don’t you realize that your knowledge of the Quran is too little?

      1.First, I will explain what is THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE QUR’AN AND THE OTHER BOOKS (TORAH, ZABUR AND BIBEL)
      Torah, Zabur and Bibel , and all God’s revelations for all of His Prophets before Muhammad are revealed to certain peoples for a certain period of time. Not to all mankind (ex: For Israel only, Jews only, etc)
      But, the Qur’an was revealed to The Last Prophet Muhammad to be presented to ALL MANKIND, not just to Israelis, Jews or Arabs only. The Qur’an was revealed to all mankind since more than 1400 years ago until now, until later, UNTIL THE LAST DAY.
      – About Jesus in QS ALI IMRAN (3:49): “And (make Isa / Jesus) a messenger to the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, (who will say), “Indeed, I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay (that which is) like the form of a bird, then i breathe into it and it become a bird by permission of Allah.” You also can see in QS AL MAIDAH 72.
      – About Muhammad in (QS Al-Anbiya, 21: 107): “And we have not sent you, (O Muhammad, except as a mercy TO THE WORLDS.” You also can see QS Al Haqqah:43

      The conclusion is very clear that Muhammad a.s is the last Prophet and the Qur’an is the Last Book from God to all mankind. That’s why God preserve it. God keeps the Qur’an original and perfect. QS AlHijr: 9 “Indeed, it is We sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be it’s guardian.”
      IF Quran is not God’s word , it would mean Bibel is God’s word and the Last Book from God . I ask you same question, Why God doesn’t perfectly preserve the text of Bibel? Is it possible that God allowed billions of humanity from ancient times until the Last Day to follow His guidance from His Book which is no longer original, which was written and edited by human hands?? The answer is very clear. Because Bibel is not the Last Book from God.

      2. Your another big mistake is that you question God’s ability. You asked as if you were an atheist. For your information, in the Qur’an, God/Allah SWT introduced Himself to mankind so perfectly. Nothing is impossible for Allah SWT. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. QS Al An’am 6:59: “And with Him are the keys of the unseen; none knows them except Him. And He knows what is on the land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls but that He knows it. And no grain is there in the darknesses of the earth and no moist or dry (thing) but that it is written in a clear record.”
      Why is NOT God ABLE to perfectly preserve Bible? Obviously, it’s not because He CAN NOT preserve it. He just let that happen. IT’S God willed.
      QS ALMAIDAH 48 : “….To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. HAD ALLAH WILLED, HE WOULD HAVE MADE YOU ONE NATION (UNITED IN RELIGION). But (He intended) to test you in what He has given to you; so race to (all that is) good…”

      3. “No one can change His words”. This means: though a thousand people write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say, “this from God”. It doesn’t mean anything, because His Truly Words: His Authority, His judgment, His law is very imposible to changed.

      4. Furthermore, I will tell you all about Al Quran as guidance. I will not discuss the miracle of the Qur’an and science.
      The Qur’an not only gives orders, but also very clear instructions . For example:
      QS AL ISRA: 32: “And do not approach unlawful sexual intercouse. Indeed, it is ever an immorality and is evil as a way”.
      Then, what is guidance for this command?
      – For WOMEN: QS An-Nur:31 : “ And tell the believing women to reduce (some) of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which (necessarily) appears thereof and to wrap (a portion of) their headcovers over their chest and not expose their adornment except to their husband, their father, their husband’s father, their sons, their husband’s sons, their brother, their brother’s son, their sisters’ sons, their women, that which their right hands posses, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of private aspects of women….”
      QS Al Ahzab :59 : “O Prophet , tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves (part) of their outer garments. That is more suitables that they will be known and not be abused….”

      For MEN: QS An-Nur 30: “ tell the believing men to reduce (some) of their vison and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do.”

      IF everyone obeys this instruction, I am very sure there will be no cases of rape, pornography, sexual harassment, free sex and LGBT.
      We go on,
      Prophet Muhammad as noble messenger:
      – QS AN NAJM 1-4: “ By the star when it descents, your companion (Muhammad) has not strayed, nor has he erred, Nor does he speak from (his own) inclination. (Quran)It is not but a revelation revealed,”
      – God/Allah SWT say in QS AL-HAQQAH 38-46 : “ So I swear by what you see and what you do not see. (That) indeed, the Quran is the word of a noble Messenger. And it is not the word of a poet; little do you believe. Nor the word of a soothsayer; little do you remember.” (It is ) a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. And if Muhammad had made up about Us some (false) sayings, We would have seized him by the right hand; Then We would have cut from him the aorta….”

      Futhermore:
      QS AL AN’AM 151: Say (Muhammad), ”Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to you. (He commands) that you not associate anything with Him, and to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them. And don’t approach immoralities- what is apparent of them and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden (to be killed) except by (legal) right. This has He instructed you that you may use reason.”

      Guide For children to their parents in QS AL-ISRA’ 23: “ And your Lord has decreed that you not worship except Him, and to parents, good treatment. Whether one or both of them reach old age (while) with you, say not to them (so much as), “Huff”, and do not repel them but speak to them a noble word.”
      Guide for MOTHERS: QS Al Baqarah 233: “ Mother may breastfeed their children two complete years for whoever wishes to complete the nursing (period). Upon the father is the mother’s provision and their clothing according to what is acceptable. No person is charged with more than his capacity. No mother should be harmed through her child, and no father through his child. And upon the (father’s) hair is (a duty) like that (of the father). And if they both desire weaning through mutual consent from both of the them and consultation, there is no blame upon either of them. And if you wish to have your children nursed by substitute, there is no blame upon you as long as you give payment according to what is acceptable. And fear Allah is Seeing what you do.”

      My big question for all of you (disbielivers) : if Quran not God’s word. It would mean Muhammad is the biggest deceiver/ Liar ever, or he is a bad guy. Then, why Al Quran has very clear , very noble and wise guidances?

      Actually, I can write more than this. I have not even asked anything about Christianity or the content of the Bible. 🙂
      PS : I’M INDONESIAN SORRY FOR GRAMMAR
      PLEASE DON’T DELETE MY COMMENT 🙂
      ((READ QUR’AN ENTIRELY)) :)

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      • Hamzat labby says:

        Sorry to tell you the Truth and bring you to Light from the darkness (Islam) you been fooled with for years ,allah is simply not God Almighty, he s satan trying to lure people to hell

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    • script says:

      People who refuse to believe in Jesus Christ are already condemned.

      JOHN 3:16-18

      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
      17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

      18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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      • Ehsan Ramjan says:

        By this you know the Spirit of God:
        Every Spirit that Confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the Flesh is FROM GOD, and Every Spirit that DOES NOT confess Jesus is NOT FROM GOD. (1 John 4:2 NRSV

        He has no beginning and no ending, He is eternal, timeless and immortal (Revelation 4:8; 1 Timothy 1:17, 6:16).

        God In The Flesh
        God is Jesus
        Who is Jehova ?
        Who is Yhweh ?
        To whom was Jesus Praying in the garden of Getsamene
        And on the Cross saying Eli Eli Laba Sabaktani(oh God Why Have Thou Forsaken Me
        “You will indeed drink my cup,
        Mt. 20:23 (Jesus told his apostles)

        He said to them: “You will indeed drink my cup, but to sit down at my right hand and at my left
        is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared BY MY FATHER.”

        Can you get anymore clearer than that?!?!?!

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    • mark says:

      Prophet Jesus, the risen Lord, says “I AM the way, the truth and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by me” he also said, “I lay my life down and I will raise it up again” also he said, “Do not add to the scriptures” rev 22, now can a prophet of God lie, NO he can NOT. So yes, sadly, every single moslem and atheist, and hindu, and budhist and anyone that denies that Jesus is the Christ of the Old testament, the lamb or God who takes away the sin of the world, is Condemned Already.

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    • Adam Falck says:

      I am a Catholic who has been studying the Quran. The Quran does say Christ was the Most Holy Sanctified One, the Word of God, born of the Virgin Mary, strengthened by the Holy Spirit and it also takes Christs’ words from the Gospels to be Scripture. He speaks through people in their infancy. They also believe Christ to have never been crucified but was raised up into Heaven before the crucifixion. It states Christ will return on the Day of Judgement as a witness against the disbelievers. It believes him to reign in Heaven with the Father. It does not take Christ to be a Redeemer however, only the Father is able and willing to do that.

      Personally, I find it to be very close to the Gospel and Torah (which the Quran claims both as Scripture). It is just written more literally with less parables and adjectival language. Whether Christ was crucified or not is the largest difference between the Gospels and the Quran.

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        The biggest difference is that Christians believe that Jesus was dead and buried for 3 days before being resurrected by GOD. Without the Resurrection of Jesus we would have no hope either. The muslims deny the resurrection of Jesus.

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        • Ehsan Ramjan says:

          Jesus’ Death
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          His death is equally a controversial affair with the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims. The Jews believe that Jesus died on the cross because he was a false prophet. In this Connection they quote the Bible.
          “And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree” is “the accursed of God”.
          (Deut.21:22-23).
          According to them, Jesus was a false prophct, therefore he died on the cross as the accursed of God. The Christians also believe that Jesus was hanged on the cross and died an accursed death. Says Paul:
          “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree”.
          (Galatians 3:13).
          But the Holy Quran declares that Christ did not die on the Cross. God saved him from death by crucifixion in the same way as He saved His dear ones from tribulations, DID NOT JONAH THE PROPHET COME OUT ALIVE FROM THE BELLY OF THE WHALE?

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          • Mark Heavlin says:

            “But the Holy Quran declares that Christ did not die on the Cross.”
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            This comment is clearly a FALSE teaching which makes islam FALSE as well.
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            Jesus’ own words to John on the island of Patmos.
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            Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.
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            Regarding the rest of your comments above. Stop using Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT as you clearly do NOT understand what you are talking about.

    • Fel says:

      Why would the quran mention jesus and make it clear to believe he is not oyrsaviour if you really think about it as a non cristian or muslim it seems like a way to bring ppl away from the truth if the quran was confident in its teachings why try to imply the jesus inst the way it shouldve just never mention that juat sounds like a good tactic move from satan to discredit christ idk juatmy thoughts

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      • Ehsan Ramjan says:

        (Matthew15:9)(KJV) BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for doctrines the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. See also Mark 7:7

        This was the religion conveyed in the message of Jesus(Peace be upon him); SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF THE ONE TRUE GOD BY OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “(Matthew15:9)(KJV)
          BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for doctrines the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. See also Mark 7:7”
          .
          This is Jesus speaking of the Jewish priests and pharisees of His day. STOP using Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT as you do NOT know what you are even saying.
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          .
          “This was the religion conveyed in the message of Jesus(Peace be upon him); SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF THE ONE TRUE GOD BY OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS.”
          .
          Again you have zero idea of what you are even attempting to talk about. Jesus talking about himself.
          .
          John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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    • HQ says:

      The writer of this article is immature and lacks knowledge of both islam and christianity.
      Unknowingly he has worked against christanity rather than working for christanity.

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    • R1 says:

      The Word Bible is not even there in any testament!! Main scripture was Enjil.. Current bible have lot of contradictions with established science !! which can not be done by the creator. Wake up and Get true knowledge..

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    • Tkays says:

      As a Christian, I can’t argue with the Muslim at all. I can only argue the Catholic and Anglicans because we read and teach about the same book(the bible) and this where the division began. The Muslims are too far from the truth. Muhammad, the author of the Quran did not agree with the new testament. Just like the protestants did not agree with the Catholic). In my own opinion, he could have taken Torah/Old Testament with him and teach through this since it’s the word of God and no one argues against this. Instead, he went ahead and wrote a different book that speaks against the New Testament and forgot the Old testament(things foretold by other prophets before him). I would only respect the Muslim if they would be using the Torah/Old testament in the Mosques to do the teaching instead of the Quran. The Quran, is just a book expressing one man’s opinion (i.e. speaking things against the New Testament). All that Muhammad did was to apply human reasoning(he took things from new testament and find out if they are truly attainable), finding answers to questions to the things of God which are beyond imagination, things that can only be revealed by the Holy Spirit which Muhammad never received when writing the Quran. We Christians we can rely on the bible for teachings of God, since it was written by different authors at different times from different geographical areas and some of them never new each other and it never contradicted. It all connects.

      Muslims will argue a lot but you have no point to make about Jesus Christ except only being strong in your religion due to your culture and where you came from. But remember the true Jesus Christ believers worship the true God who is alive. They pray to God and He answers their prayers, he does miracles to them and continue glorifying Him. But you Muslims what are you proud of or what have you received from Muhammad?

      One of the Muslim scholars, Dr. Zakir said you can not be a Muslim if you do not believe in Jesus Christ. But in my opinion, this is wrong(Since this is not the Jesus Christ we talk about in the Bible). All those who accepted and believe in Jesus Christ became Christians. And they pray by/through the name of Jesus Christ in all their prayers(John 17:11).

      The Jesus Christ we talk about is the one who said, “I am the way and the truth, and no one goes to the Father except through me.” But you are not taking Jesus Christ with you because he didn’t begin Islam. All I see in this debates is that you are trying to bring in the concept of Jesus Christ in your teaching and to show that you worship the same God as the Christian so to have many followers. You are wrong, Allah is not equal the God(Yahweh) Christians worship.

      The God Christians worship is reached through Jesus Christ and as long as you are not reaching Allah through Jesus Christ then i can conclude Allah(god of Muslims) is not equal Yahweh(God of Christians).

      So i urge all Muslims, come worship the true God through Jesus Christ if you truly believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is alive and he consistently talked about the Father that He and Him are one(John 17), and nowhere Christians are worshiping 3 Gods but only one God. And this God was revealed to them as flesh(the Son), and Jesus spoke about the Father, and the Holy Spirit who is living in those who accepted Jesus Christ.

      Muslims you are mislead by the Quran. I wish you could be using the Old Testament in Mosques, then i think we would have more Muslims than Christians in the whole world. So it’s true the whole Islamic thing is a fake and does not come from the God of Christians if only you say Allah is equal God of Christians. Muslims and Christians are not worshiping the same God. Because they do not reach/communicate to God the same way.

      So whether Muslims will go to hell or not, I leave that to the day of Judgement. I wish you all the best in finding your way to heaven and God Bless you.

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      • Ehsan Ramjan says:

        Neither The Jews agreed with Jesus They said He was a FAKE MESSIAH This is why he died a horrific death and also he was Proved that He was an Accursed of God (God Forbids)

        As Muslims we have no choice. We had said in many words:

        ” WE BELIEVE IN ONE CREATOR, WE BELIEVE IN ALL HIS PROPHETS, WE BELIEVE, THAT JESUS (peace be upon him) WAS ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST PROPHETS OF GOD, THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH AS WELL AS THE WORD OF GOD,(Be) THAT HE WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY- WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENTION (which many modern-day Christians do not believe today),THAT HE GAVE LIFE TO THE DEAD BY GOD’S PERMISSION, AND THAT HE HEALED THOSE BORN BLIND AND THE LEPERS BY GOD’S PERMISSION.”

        Say: we believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us; we believe in what was revealed to Abraham, ISHMAEL, ISAAC, JACOB AND THE TRIBES; TO MOSES AND JESUS AND THE OTHER PROPHETS, WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ANY OF THEM, and TO GOD WE HAVE SURRENDERED OURSELVES. Quran Sura 2, The Cow, verse 136. i.e. in full submission and obedience.

        If Islam wasn’t the truth it wouldn’t get the same amount of blind hate, You simply would not care enough to comment

        I am not worried about what people says because YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “Say: we believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us;”
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          I REBUKE you in the name of THE FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT. You want to pray to allah go do it on your own website NOT here. This is a CHRISTAIN website.
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          “we believe in what was revealed to Abraham, ISHMAEL, ISAAC, JACOB AND THE TRIBES;”
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          Funny, no mention of Ishmael in THE HOLY BIBLE as in the context you are attempting to assert here. Wonder why that is? In any event you should STOP spreading lies and half truths.
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          Exodus 3:5-6 5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then He said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.”
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          Exodus 3:13-15 13 Then Moses asked God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is His name?’ What should I tell them?” 14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15 God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.
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          “I am not worried about what people says because YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, EVERYONE IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS.”
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          Funny, that is NOT what THE HOLY BIBLE says. Read closely and understand so you will NOT be deceived.
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          John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
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          “Muslims believe is consistent with what Christians believe”
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          This is a BLATANT and BALD FACED LIE. Jesus Christ was born of a Virgin. Crucified, Died, Buried, and Resurrected on the 3rd day, Ascended to Heaven and is at the right hand of GOD the FATHER this is Christianity. Muslims not so much. As recorded by John on the island of Patmos about Jesus.
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          Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.

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  2. A Muslim says:

    Can we Prove Quran is From God?

    Muslims have something that offers the clearest proof of all – The Holy Quran. There is no other book like it anywhere on earth. It is absolutely perfect in the Arabic language. It has no mistakes in grammar, meanings or context. The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars. Predictions in the Quran have come true; and its teachings are clearly for all people, all places and all times.

    Surprisingly enough, the Quran itself provides us with the test of authenticity and offers challenges against itself to prove its veracity. Allah tells us in the Quran:

    Haven’t the unbelievers considered if this was from other than Allah, they would find within it many contradictions?
    [Noble Quran 4:82]

    Another amazing challenge from Allah’s Book:

    If you are in doubt about it, bring a chapter like it.
    [Noble Quran 2:23]

    And Allah challenges us with:

    Bring ten chapters like it. [Noble Quran 11:13]

    And finally:

    Bring one chapter like it. [Noble Quran 10:38]

    No one has been able to produce a book like it, nor ten chapters like it, nor even one chapter like it. It was memorized by thousands of people during the lifetime of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and then this memorization was passed down from teacher to student for generation after generation, from mouth to ear and from one nation to another. Today every single Muslim has memorized some part of the Quran in the original Arabic language that it was revealed in over 1,400 years ago, even though most of them are not Arabs. There are over nine million (9,000,000) Muslims living on the earth today who have totally memorized the entire Quran, word for word, and can recite the entire Quran, in Arabic just as Muhammad (peace be upon him) did 14 centuries ago.

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    • Brendon Miskell says:

      Muhammed did not live a life worthy of God, God would never select such a man as his messenger. Consider the evidence

      * Muhammed approved of sex slavery
      * Muhammed was a pedophile in today’s terms
      * Muhammed was a rapist
      * Muhammed was a cheat and a liar and it only gets worse from there
      https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/islam-the-crimes-of-prophet-mohammed/
      http://godofreason.com/new-page-5.htm

      THere is nothing to recommend Muhammed nor any reason to hold to the idea he has either a Godly man or Gods messenger many of his actions were downright evil and politically motivated for his own power, he was a good conman and that is all he was

      Jesus is both the message of God and Gods son and messenger, he lived a pure life a holy life and only in him is truth found “I am the way the life and the truth, he that believes in me will not walk in darkness but have eternal life”

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      • Özcan Erdönmez says:

        Jesus was no better than Muhammed, sorry my friend… He was a typical Middle Easterner with a very similar culture as Muhammed… We can’t judge their lifestyle because we now live in modern times and have culturally and sociologically evolved considerably, but that is beside the point. You are a blind believer of Christianity and can’t see the many contradictions, absurdities and immoral teachings in your own religion just like Muslims….. it’s very easy for humans to criticize other people, other religions and other cultures, but so incredibly difficult to criticize your own.religion, your own culture, your own country, favorite political party, ideology or whatever…..

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        • rudolph says:

          if these gods or prophets were real my question is where is the remains of these prophets why is there no blood line from these prophets and why is evolution more visible to the naked eye than religion how come is it that a god needs to convince people to believe in him or else face death why did god have to send people to go and look for other people why didn’t god do it him self why is god so afraid of the devil and if god exists where does god come from …….who made god is there a other god who is made by another god where does this bullshit end really ! you don’t know what is out there ,you did not die and come back to tell a story and why has god stop talking to people for 3000 years .if he is so powerful why the fuck do people need to be forced in believing in god. and why do people say he or him as if he was a man .fact if god was a man then he had to come from a womb if god did not come from a womb then he is a bisexual god with dick and pussy.why is religion knowledge is 1%of the world when it never knew about the rest of the world that it existed. ps im a atheist ..no wonder why we are killed first …we are a threat to religion as a whole and that we can proof that the Bible and Qumran are in fact a invention of man so man is controlled with a iron fist .

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          • Arif Rahman says:

            My dear brother, if you firstly doubt if there’s god or not you should first look at your own body. Did u ever thought how u get up everyday and your body runs like a ultimate machine which is capable of doing numerous things.can anyone create a human if the needed thing are provided? Even if we created every thing including heart, kidney and all physical things who will make the heart beat? Who can put the soul into our body? Or is it just a process of nature as u may think ? If so who created nature? As u say every thing is created.So who created it ? Is it god? If so who created the god ? The only answer that I tell u is the god ,He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;(surah ikhlas 112:4)( he doesn’t have parents nor he does have children) . As per Islam guidelines​ thinking more about the beginning of the god can may lead to the way out of islam. I know it’s hard to believe but u should , that’s the way it is .Even the prophet Moosa (A.S)(Moses) had doubt what the god is doing all the time. There’s a totall of 41must need properties of god which includes 20 must need and 20 mustn’t need and 1 which may or may not have. I advice that u should ask yourselves the question that u have doubt. It is said the the one who knew his body well will know the god.

          • A brother in Christ says:

            You are foul mouthed. In Christianity, man is not controlled with an iron fist. Jesus did in fact claim to be God, did miracles and raised up from the dead to prove it. Eyewitnesses are the ones that recorded it. Several sources outside the Bible mentions Jesus. Jesus was born of a woman in His human form. Evolution is only ” visible” because “scientist” cram it down your throat with big words but has never been able to demonstrate it. Man cannot create life yet claims life came from nothing. I don’t know where you get this idea that athiests are killed first night And, your ideas are only a threat to those who don’t have a proper understanding of Christianity. No matter how hard you try, you cannot prove it’s false. If you could, it would have already been gone.

        • jason head says:

          Ozcan, you claim that Jesus was no better than Muhammad and yet I would think you would be very hard pressed to quote a scholar that would attribute anything but the highest morality to Jesus. You would also be hard pressed to find any ancient work of antiquity that claims Jesus was an evil doer.

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          • Tracey says:

            Jesus did not marry any person, nor was he a trader, so……
            They Jesus Christ and Muhammad are not even able to be compared.

        • Paul says:

          Jesus Christ was the Creator of the Universe, and our savior from his being on the cross for us, died, was buried, and rosed again for us. Which is totally proven in the Bible. Both John:
          John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
          John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
          John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
          John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
          John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
          and Paul confirmed he Jesus was the godly creator also:
          Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
          Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
          Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
          And in Hebrews:
          Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
          Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
          Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

          And the only salvation that was changed by Jesus, when he ended the covenants until the tribulation time, was given to Paul:
          1Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
          1Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
          1Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
          1Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

          And Koran lies against all that, and then be aware of what Jesus warns of the sorcery of the lies against him…the devil, I.e., the Satan:
          John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
          The father of lies Satan tried to make Jesus worship him in Matthew 4:9. And then Satan also tried to kill the God in Heaven, the father the Son and holy sprit as shown Revelation 12: Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

          Satan is on Earth nonstop and seeks to be the God here.
          2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
          2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
          And Ephesians 4:4. And also John: Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
          1Jn 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

          Satan seeks to be God, and then he appears as Allah.

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        • bob says:

          Jesus no better than Muhammad – are you kiddin’ me? Muhammad started 17 wars the last 10 years of his life? He supposedly claimed to be delusional and/or psychoitic. Had 15 wives – and took a child as a bride. Jesus healed and helped the people – Muhammad did the exact opposite. You must get that bump on your head looked at!

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      • Nicholas Mansfield says:

        Shalom Brendon Miskell, Ha-Moshiach Yeshua endorsed the Ishmaelites to take over from the Israelites, have you not read a bible?

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      • Muslim Arabic is my mother tongue says:

        That’s why he was named the most influential people in history.
        He was know among his trip as the truthful and the trustworthy before he started spreading God’s word. Then he was called many things for spreading the word of God. As mentioned above by a Muslim. Their is no doubt that the bible contains many errors scientific and other unlike the Quran. If you provide me any evidence of scientific fact that contradicts the Quran I will leave this religion. I told my mother in law the same thing and here we are 15 years later and she has not provided anything. Do you think you can say the same about the bible.
        The Quran was collected in a book a few years after the death of the prophet and if you go read how it was collected you will be amazed. Unlike the bible, it clearly was collected centuries after Jesus died and by the way the trinity was a foot note in the original scriptors. Go ask if I am lying. If being Christian means following Jesus’s teaching then I can tell you with no doubt that Muslims are more Christian than Christians. Jesus didn’t eat pork or get drink alcohol he prayed to god daily. Who does that now? Christians or Muslims.
        Now to the article. Muslims believe in the bible and the Torah that’s the old and new testament we believe that the current bible has been altered and manipulated for political and church reason. If the bible was unaltered you would not have 40 or so denominations and you would not have many different versions
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/how-many-christian-denominations-worldwide/amp/

        So the premise is faulted. I can surely prove to you that the current bible has scientific mistakes and I don’t believe that God makes mistakes he says in the Quran that good is from him and evil is made by your hands.

        Please don’t name call and talk evil talk reason so that you can attract what is good.

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        • ephrem says:

          you guy don’t be foolish Islam do not have single truth in the hall its history if Allah is the one who love every person how he can dedicate some people to heaven and some people to hell and promise the heaven is the place of sex and drunk for whom died for the sake of expansion of Islam what you follow is myth of Muhammad don’t be deceived because your Allah is deceiver according to Qur’an announcement . why you follow deceiver since Allah is deceiver these show you follow Islam blindly . the truth is in Jesus please forget every myth and follow Jesus you will be saved from hell.

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        • jason head says:

          Muslim Arabic is my mother tongue, you say that if you are provided with false scientific statements made in the quran that you will leave your religion.

          Here are 2

          Surah 23:14 makes the claim that human beings are formed from a clot of blood.

          Surah 18:86 claims that the sun sets in a spring of murky water.

          But, the bible says in Ps 19:5-6, “In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,
          5 Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
          And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.
          6 Its rising is from one end of heaven,
          And its circuit to the other end;

          The bible’s version of the sun rising from east to west in circuit because the sun is also moving through space.

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        • fabz says:

          Muslim Arabic…I would like you or any Muslim to point out one single error in the Holy Bible!
          I can point out many error in your Quran which prove without doubt its is not the word of God.

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        • ISLAM says:

          If Arabic is your tongue then you are an idiot. The languages in the middle east are known as Semitic languages. Jesus or Yeshua spoke Aramaic and Hebrew. The languages prevalent were in the region were Phoenician, Sumerian, Aramaic, Hebrew and later came Arabic. There is difference but it has great connectivity. All of these are written from right to left. They share the same Alphabet.
          Now to answer to you the word Islam is Arabic when translates it means “SUBMISSION”. The word Muslim is Arabic and when translated it means TO SUBMIT OR SURRENDER” SO to say or use the Arabic word in a sentence is completely wrong. To Surrender is an act.
          Let us try to use it in English
          I am Muslim
          I am surrender.

          Islamic architecture
          Submission architecture

          Islamic terrorist
          Submission terrorist .

          So how do one surrender to the true God. It is by Piety.

          None of the Mohammedans are pious. Mohammedan are blood thirsty creatures.
          Arabic :Sura Al Anfal
          English : Spils of war.
          In this Sura Allah is blood thirsthy . they attack the Meccan trading caravan and it is clearly said that bring fear in thier hearts and strike them above the neck and crucify them. The women are taken as slaves, the boys who have reached puberty and men are killed and the booty is shared with Mohammed taking the bigger share. I am was born and thought the religion of Mohammed. He is an evil man. Either he is sent by Shaithan as a Prophet to deceive the humans. His action are not pious. he waged war, had a huge collection of sword. he beheaded many. he robbed the Jewish tribe of yathrib and took the Jewish women Saffiyah even though she was married. he ordered his death.
          Isa who had the power to calm the storm, raise the dead, heal the blind said “Those who live by the sword will die by the sword” Look at Omar, Uthmann, Ali Hussien his children all died a brutal dead by sword. Evne to this day the Mohammedans are killings Mohammedans. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Saudi is killing Yemenis. Isa could have wiped out the Roman empire who occupied his land in less than a Nano second but he instead showed Love and sacrifice. Mohammed who came 600 years later put kerosene on Isa Loves. The Syrians refugees are coming to Europe even risking their lives, but not going to rich Saudi, Qatar and others in the region, even though they speak Arabic and share the same culture. USE your mind and think hard. The christians are the true Muslim (surrender) next tiem don’t call the religion of Mohammed as Muslim , becasue it is not. Muslims are the people of ISA who are pious and give right to the refugees.

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      • A human says:

        The arguements are just disappointing since when was disrespecting other religions a form of convincing a person from another religion that they are correct. First of muslim or non muslim we all believe in god and we all believe in a book either being the quran the bible or the taruh and all those books were sent to us through prophets by god almighty’s permission. And if you believe in god and pray to him then you should not disrespect any of the books he sent or prophets! Calling prophets and categorizing them as if they werent sent to share gods message is just completely unacceptable in any religion we are not the ones who judge your only duty as a human being is doing right in this world and following god’s message. As a muslim i believe in the quran and all the books that came before it ex: the bible the taruh) because they where all sent down by gods willingness. I do believe every single word in the quran and not every word in the bible and the reasoning to that is the quran unlike all the books has no type of misinterpretations and falsifications and the proof to that is our quran is only 1 version and the bible has 50 different versions every one of them contradicting the other. The saddest thing is to see all those arguments but no one arguing with proof from the Quran with all do respect but the website you shared could be your words or a young man like you with no education of the quran. The only way to make sure is to read just take your time and read. This life is temporary we all believe in the day of judgement and that all our sins and deeds will be weighed and our final destination is going to be either heaven or hell so thank god you are still alive , able to read and able to make sure you are guided to the straight path.

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        • jason head says:

          The problem A Human, is that the quran directly contradicts the bible and the quran does not offer an answer for sin. The God of the Bible is all-powerful and all-knowing, why wouldn’t He be all Holy? Your sin separates you from God, and the only one that can deal with the situation is God Himself, which He did by offering His Son as the punishment for sin…my sin, your sin. The quran does not offer an answer for sin.

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        • kurt says:

          And history is filled with people who did not come to faith in Jesus until they were challenged with the lies of their own religion. Nabeell Qureshi a former Muslim is one recent example.

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      • saif says:

        All of this is a lie about beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH.Read from Quran and Ahadees to know about not to search what is in internet and find it true. Also Quran is from Allah the last Book. All scientific proofs mentioned in Quran are true now which the Quran has proved long ago. Also the signs of the Judgment Day that the Prophet Muhammad PBUH has said are almost fullfilled and some of them will become true by time. Also Jesus (Hazrat Isa PBUH) is the messanger of Allah.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        please where are you getting these information from? you know what? i will simple refer you the the 100 most influential people in history by Michael H. Hart , a christian who ranked prophet Muhammad as the number most influential person who was the most successful in both secular and religious duties. Jesus Christ was placed at number 3. this is what i can give u for now, but you can contact me for further discussion on +233246985578

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        • Greatness says:

          Abdul-Azziz Sumaila, Please know this: Yeshua did not come to influence the world… He came to SAVE the World. That is what He did!
          JESUS IS MUCH TOO MUCH TO BE RATED ALONGSIDE ANY HUMAN BEING – even if we think Him to be a man.
          I pray all Muslims will see God’s truth (The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob). If they do, they will definitely ‘run’ for their Lives!

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      • Professor Sarri says:

        You are an Ignoramus—no rationale and no evidence!! Pure hot air and ad homies!!!

        Go learn about the most powerful prophet, reformer Mohammed. His first wife, Khadijah, was 25 years his senior: FYI!!!! Learn and read the scientifically and metaphysically challenging Qur’an and judge not unless you want to be judge!!!

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      • sumaya says:

        wow now you get to decided who Allah S.W.T chooses as his messenger! Also stop talking about someone you dont at all know there has never been and will never be someone like him he is a blessing to this world and every living creature that walks on it i wish you would try to know him from authentic sources instead of bealiving in falsehood for you will be judged alone by your Creator and you will have to answer for how you lived the life he blessed you with. Truly the way you lived is the way you die

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      • Ehsan Ramjan says:

        Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Luke 6:37

        Matthew 12:36-37(36) But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement.(37) For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

        Jesus died for our sins
        Just a thought: If believing in a divine Jesus dying for the sins of the world is necessary in order to go Paradise, before and after him, then why is it not mentioned clearly in every single book of the Bible?

        WHY WAS IT NOT STATED IN PLAIN WORDS BY EVERY SINGLE PROPHET TO HIS NATION?
        WHY WOULD THIS MESSAGE BE GIVEN IN SUCH A HIDDEN AND CRYPTIC WAY?
        Why wouldn’t Almighty God be clear on this issue CONSIDERING THAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT BELIEVING IN IT WOULD LEAD TO HELL?
        These questions are addressed because Almighty God, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, HAD FORGIVEN PEOPLE FOR CENTURIES BEFORE JESUS:

        “YOU FORGAVE THE INIQUITY OF YOUR PEOPLE AND COVERED ALL THEIR SINS.” [Psalm 85:2],

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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    • Geo says:

      Many wise people have proven that there are numerous mistakes in Quran, the problem is, that you muslims, can’t see them, because you are told that there is no error, but this is your claim only, which lies far, far away from truth. Why Quran is in Arabic, if it was meant for all people? Even thouse who understand the language have difficulties in understanding the Quran due to its ill structure and incompleteness. Why your Allach chose such a primitive way to convey his messages. Even now, after 1400 years, there is no agreement in islamic world about the true meaning of words of your god. Maybe your allach will send another prophet to clean this mess.

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        • jason head says:

          Muslim Arabic, that is the logical fallacy, “Shotgun argumentation” – it offers such a large number of arguments for a position that we can’t possibly respond to all of them.

          What I would ask you is this: there is only a single author Muhammad for the Quran – that means that there is no checks and balances…you either take his word for it, or you don’t. There is no accountability since there is only 1 author. However, with the bible, there are 40 authors, 66 books written over a period of 1500 years in 3 languages on 3 continents from different professions, different walks of life and yet there is harmony – 1 central theme throughout. That God created man with free will and wanted a relationship with man, man rebelled and rejected God, man is separated from God and continues to rebel, God reconciles man to God only by Jesus.

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          • Greatness says:

            JASON HEAD the Quran is delivered to Muhammad alone, and that is more than enough evidence, according to Muslims, that it is the word of God. In it,Muslims are guided (supposedly) in what constitutes good deeds – doing of which they MAY get admitted into a male-dominated paradise of CARNAL pleasures. A & Z of Islam.

          • Lawrence says:

            Hallo Jason, look at it this way, Muhammad certainly meant well. As for one author of the Quran well, Muhammad was of course not the author, only the vehicle. Dozens of authors for the Bible could mean harmony, but then the message, as you rightly note, is pretty simple anyway. As an aside I would suggest that the ISiS people are not true Muslims and are about as pertinent to Islam as the Crusaders and the perpetrators of the Inquisition were to Christianity. Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammad shared an common cause because the were all appalled at seeing their people falling into idol worship and excessive dogma. Mohammad once declared “I want to bring back the religion of Abraham.”

            I am not a Muslim Jason, but I would love to see “…two or three together in His name,” irrespective of faith. God bless, chum

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            @ LAWRENCE – ” “I am not a Muslim Jason, but I would love to see “…two or three together in His name,” irrespective of faith.”
            .
            I understand your comment but the question I must ask is who you mean by “His”?
            .
            At the end of the day Muslims and Christians can NOT be worshiping the same God.
            .
            The Muslims claim that god is one and has no son yet they still claim Jesus as a prophet while denying the crucifixion and resurrection. This is in clear contradiction to what Jesus claims for himself.
            .
            Christianity’s claims are 180 degrees from the Muslims. Jesus’ own claims about himself should keep the Muslims from claiming Him as a prophet if their view is correct.
            Christianity teaches The Trinity which can be clearly seen in the baptism accounts of Jesus. Jesus also in multiple places makes claims to be equal with GOD; which the Jews are correct to account that as blasphemy if it is untrue. Hence the accounts where they pick up stones to stone Him. If however it is true then the Jews are wrong.
            .
            At the end of the day you must choose a side. Either Jesus came to give himself as an atonement sacrifice for all sin for all time or He did not. There is NO middle ground. Seems like a pretty safe bet to me to discount the group as FALSE that are making claims about someone that the very person’s own claims about himself are in direct contradiction to. Twofold when the group making the claims occur some 700 years later in history than that individual. They have the whole story written down in front of them and still can NOT refute or discount it?
            .
            Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”
            .
            Luke 18:19 “Why do you call Me good? Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone.
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            John 10:29-31 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
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            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

        • Pedro says:

          in the Quran it says god laid out the earth like a carpet (flat) – that’s a mistake. god then apparently placed the mountains on the earth to make it stable – that’s a mistake, mountains are created by the instability of the earth. The sun sets in a muddy pool – that’s a mistake (and by the way Hadith confirm that Muhammad believed that). The moon shall not overtake the sun (or vice versa) that’s a mistake – look at eclipses. God created light and dark – that’s a mistake – darkness is simply the absence of light – an ignorant man might not know that but a god would. The Quran contains many contradictions.

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          • Professor Sarri says:

            No it does not and you are logically either a liar who did not read and misrepresent its content OR a charlatan attempting to spread falsehood against an unchallenged philosophic and metaphilosopic Qur’an!

          • I love allah says:

            Allah didn’t create darkness he created night and day that’s only possible by precise position of the moon and the sun c:

      • Ehsan Ramjan says:

        This is Why Islam Is The FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in THE WORLD

        Have You Taken the time to research the Quran?
        NO NOT EVEN READ THE BIBLE?

        In the name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful.
        1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only.
        2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
        3. He begets not, nor is He begotten.
        And there is none comparable unto Him.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          I REBUKE your comment above in the name of THE FATHER, THE SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT.
          .
          Exodus 3:14-15 14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15 God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.
          .
          Isaiah 43:10-11 10 “You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me, no god was formed, and none will come after Me. 11 I, yes I, am the LORD, and there is no Savior but Me.

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    • J C. GODSON says:

      To conclude, the argument developed above represents a formidable challenge to the Islamic religion, and I challenge any Muslim to show me where I have erred. In order to maintain his Islamic faith, a Muslim must reject one or more of the Premises of the syllogism given at the start of this article. If he cannot do so, the conclusion follows necessarily and inescapably.

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        • Professor Sarri says:

          Kurt:
          Your ‘red herring,’ elementary informal fallacy does not apply, as I challenge that you never have Read the Qur’an in English much less in Formal (Sound=valid and true) Arabic!!

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    • Child says:

      Does your Allah say muslim should kill christians in order to go to heaven? Can you explain what the ISIS is doing?? Is killing people good ?

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      • Truth says:

        There is unfortunate reality that people following the Christian faith think they are peace loving people. All the killings done by people who Christians is extreme. Yet, you are only passing judgment on muslims through isis(whom i don’t consider muslims, and apparently serving political agenda of non muslims). Let’s consider violence and mass killings done by Christians: world war II, the atomic bombs dropped down on japan killing and evaporating 100 of thousands of civilians in seconds, killing over a million people in Iraq in the recent years, the savage treatment and slaughter of black slaves since the beginning of the American history, the savage attacks and killings of the crusades, the current manipulation of other countries and creating chaos in other nations, the shootings and killings done in America on a daily basis(so far total 2,000 shooting this year – this is done by non muslims). I see all religions have been abused and used to justify violence against others. That is the sad part. What the original Americans did to the native Americans speaks very loud! Where were the ethics and Christian morality? How come different churches are not speaking up to stop bloodshed?

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        • kurt says:

          One of the problems with your logic is assuming all the examples you cite were committed by Christians. When America bombed Japan, did the president say, “we do this in Jesus name!”?

          But when ISIS behead people they cite the Quran as their justification.

          That’s just one important distinction.

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        • kurt says:

          When people who CALL themselves Christian commit acts of violence, they are sinning not following Jesus.

          But Muslims can say they are following the profit.

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    • jason head says:

      Circular Reasoning (to A Muslim). You start with the premise that the Quran is faultless and use that premise to prove it is faultless.

      You mention, “Predictions in the Quran have come true” and yet you provided no predictions. What predictions have come to pass?

      You mention, “The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars”. What scientific evidences are you speaking of?

      You say, “There are over nine million (9,000,000) Muslims living on the earth today who have totally memorized the entire Quran, word for word, and can recite the entire Quran”. This is the logical fallacy Argumentum ad populum. It doesn’t matter how many have memorized it, doesn’t make it true.

      And, you didn’t answer any of the questions posed by the article. Namely, the Quran says that the bible was given by allah and yet contradicts the bible in regards to Jesus dying on the cross, the Trinity and that Jesus was only a prophet and not the Son of God. So either the bible is correct or the Quran but not both and since the bible actually does have predictive prophecy and that the leader of Christianity rose from the dead by prima facie Christianity and the bible is to be believed.

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    • worldmapz says:

      Although I am no Quran expert, I certainly know from research (watching scholars like Shabir Ali and others) who debate Islam with Christians that there are problems with believing that the Quran hasn’t been changed…”not one word or one letter” because Prince Phillip, the husband of Queen Elizabeth II of England is older than the Quran Muslims use today. The current Quran found in many mosques (obviously not all) was commissioned as the Holy Quran in 1924 . (See http://bible-quran.com/arabic-quran-cairo/ and http://www.answering-islam.org/PQ/ch8-index.html and http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/125312 and http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Koran-Origins.htm to give you just a few). Here is a link that explains how there are 26 (actually more) different Arabic Qurans (not English translations) being used throughout Mosques around the world (and many in the UK): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoMB8nJWmw. Thanks to the Internet, society can learn about Islam using primary sources, too. Before we had to take a person’s word on the subject, but now we can actually look at those sources (translated into nearly every language) and see for ourselves. It is too difficult for anyone to make claims about the Quran without getting to look at those claims and primary sources for ourselves. People might have believed what you wrote above 15-20 years ago, but even Muslims can go look for themselves.

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    • Ilonka says:

      You have been brainwashed to think that and I feel sorry for you. I do not blame you though and if you are still a good man, then God will love you. not because you are a muslim but because you are good.
      Everybody I know who has not been brainwashed has never EVER thought it is the greatest book ever. On the contrary, there are so many contradictions and so many mistakes in historical and scientific facts. The worst thing of all though is the total hate towards non believers and how to dispose of them. We are seeing it daily in the news all over the world.
      The fact that 9 millions muslims can recite the whole Qoran word for word does not mean ANYTHING. It proves that they are brainwashed. The God of this universe is not interested in reciting words. He wants us to be good people, that is much more difficult than learning to recite.

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    • A brother in Christ says:

      What is scientific about the Qur’an? I don’t particularly think anyone has tried writing something like the Qur’an. And look at the Bible as well. The Bible was written by about 44 authors, a lot of them didn’t know each other personally and yet it tells a single story, with other stories interwoven. And manages not to contradict it’self. Another thing is , Mohammed never claimed to do miracles. While reading the Bible, the major prophets that was conveying a large and important message, such as Moses, Elijah, and Jesus , all did miracles to show that they were sent from God. Like the article shown above, the Qur’an repeatedly affirms the scriptures as the word of God and says that nobody can corrupt the word of God. There are numerous prophecies in the Bible that has been fufilled and some still being fufilled to this day. There’s an ex Muslim who runs a website, can’t remember what it’s called, who debates Muslim teachers because he found within the Qur’an many contradictions.

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    • Daniel D Aminu says:

      just bring one like CHRIST JESUS THE LORD then i will give you more than you can carry in mind… if any in the record of the Bible and The quran that have such a perfect life on earth please.
      hope not forgetting 9year old girl been molested and so more?? …
      thanks

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      • Ehsan Ramjan says:

        The Jews Said Worst to Your God and Saviour Do You Know What They say ?

        Your God And Saviour Was A FAKE MESSIAH

        He was The Son OF A SOLDIER AND HIS MOTHER WAS AN IMMORAL WOMAN(God FORBIDS)
        AND THIS IS WHY THEY DID NOT ACCEPT HIM

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    • Pedro says:

      The Quaran has many errors and contradictions in it. it is highly repetitive, disjointed and very poorly written – many books have been written that are far more eloquent the Quaran. There are no novel scientific facts or prophesies in the Quaran and those relied upon by many Muslims have been shown to be false. You simply repeat the propaganda without ever having considered it. Just because many people can quote it or have memorized it does not mean its true.

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    • Hamzat labby says:

      I m sorry to say this, why are Muslims so gullible, the Koran, a perfect book???? Pls read it because I know a lot of you people don’t read it then you l de that it’s a book that makes no sense at all. It’s just about a God praising himself swearing by clouds and threatening his followers

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      • sumaya says:

        First of all ALL PRAISE IS TO ALLAH The Owner of all PRAISE the one and only the Lord of the heavens and earth and all that is in it to Him belongs all goodness HE is the first and the last and there is none like Him

        .Secondly the audacity you are puting on here is very scary thinking you know everything Allah created you when you were nothing from a tiny drop of fluid to the grown person you are now and behold here you are now denying Allah’s perfect and blessed words thinking you have knowledge of the unseen surely only those Allah guides will be truly guided

        Also to the writer of this blog i would suggest you study Islam without trying to disprove it for if you read it with a negative mind the response you get will be negative i could see you were trying too hard to falsyfy the TRUTH the first thing you need to think about before trying to find faults in the quran is why muhamad p.b.u.h would lie about Allah wat benefit would he and did he get for when he died he only had a few dirhams in his possesion which he asked to be given away he could get watever he wanted and lived like a king but he did not instead he lived a humble life when you know the truth about this man is when you will know the truth about islam for he was a living breathing islam at the same time it depends on you do you wanna know the truth or are you satisfied wit wat you

        To everyone at large i would say to you that nobody knows the future nor is there anyone who knows the past without being informed by others either through oral or by book and you cant really know the intention of the one informing you so i suggest you research well and pray to the Almighy for guidance for He is the all knower, the all hearer instead of thinking you a mere human being can make it on your own and understand the truth by yourself without HIS help.

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  3. Özcan Erdönmez says:

    As an ex-Muslim, I’m convinced that both the Bible and the Qur’an are the words of men, not the Creator of the universe. This is where the evidence has finally led me. Both books contain not only many immoral teachings, but there are numerous inconsistencies and claims about the universe that very obviously conflict with modern science. The origins of these religions are rooted in Sumerian theology, as well as other ancient religions, mythologies and cultures.

    Even if there were no absurdities, irrational and immoral teachings in the Qur’an, I would still reject it as the word of God. Why? Because of the ludicrous concept of eternal Hellfire by the “Merciful God”. According to the Qur’an, Allah will only accept Islam as the true religion and all non-Muslims will burn in an eternal Hellfire, regardless of how many good deeds they do. This means that billions of Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Taoists, Shintoists and others will be tortured for eternity by the merciful God. No human being who listens to his own conscience and reason would ever believe in such an evil God. People believe in the religion of their country and parents, if devout “Muslims” were born in China, they too would have been Buddhist now. The same is of course true for the Bible and Christianity, as well as other religions.

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    • Maxime Boucher says:

      I’m so annoyed by the saying that the Quran was never changed. Just look at the Wikipedia of the quran. There were 4 people authorised by Mohammad to write the quran and they all had different numbers of verses. They like to say not one dot has been added yet in the original there was no dots. Does your version have dots. How many English versions of quran are there? Why all the quran were burned and than for political reasons a standardized version was made? Is it accurate?

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      • Iman says:

        Dear my friend,
        Firstable , all of things that has written in wikipedia may be wrong !
        But about this case ( burning other qurans) it should be considerd that
        ” what was the differences of those qurans?”
        And the answer (according to history) is clear:
        The distinction between them, was just in “arrengment ,sequence and ordering” not in “content”. And the reason is clear. The Verses of quran were sent by god at different conditions. ( for example read the “yasin 78 ,79”)
        And about dot! as you know, the early kufi language , doesnt have dot! but today we have dots to read more frequently! do you want to say that adding dots to quraan is Distortion?
        Muslims say that there isnt any removed or added any word or sentence or Verse or chapter! This quran’s content, is exactly as same as the quran were recived by prophet muhammad

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    • Simon Hanks says:

      That would mean we should have no religion at this day and age. Or we need a new prophet.. but wait.. GOD sent those prophets back then (or so we have been told), right? Which is the obvious proof that RELIGION IS MAN MADE CONCEPT TO DIVIDE PEOPLE.

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    • Helena says:

      There are 3 main facts that show that Mohammad was not like Moses and therefore is not “the one”.
      1. He should have beeb an israelite and he wasn’t, jesus was.
      2. Jesus had direct communication with God, mohammad did not. He had it via a being who said he was Gabriel.
      3. Moses performed miracles and so did Jesus. Mohammed did not.
      I could go on but these are the most important.

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      • The One says:

        When we speak of scientific evidence – science is only mans way of trying to figure out God and that is simply not possible. While we can argue all day long – your salvation is not based on religious affiliation. There is only one that is ALL KNOWING. No body wants to submit to Gods Word anymore (error or not so says man/science) so now we have all these religions and people doing what they want to. Religion is man made and design to cause division. One thing is promised – we will all die. Yes, it important what you believe, and how you live. It is important to embrace the truth about Jesus Christ because eternity is an awful long to time to be wrong. Carry on all of you because it is wasted time and energy trying to figure something out that you never will while living here on this earth. THE END. Much love!

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    • Ilonka says:

      Both the Bible and the Qoran cannot be together the word of God. The main reason is the fact that the Qoran is saying all the opposite of the previous Old and New Testaments. They came much later and have the arrogance to say we have corrupted our scriptures. This is the only way they can inspire people that mohammad is telling the truth and we are lying.
      I can also find hundreds of articles that will give you logical arguments but will not waste my time. An “angel” who pretends he is Gabriel , does not have to be an angel.
      Mohammad himself thought he was possessed and nobody can prove to us that he wasn’t.
      When you read the suras about how to conquer the whole world and make islam the only religion, then as far as I am concerned, this was not an angel of God.

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  4. David says:

    Holy Bible is not word of Gad, it is a narrative books both old testament and new testament. For example in the old testament you can read about how Moses died. Also in new testament you can find many paradoxical verses such as Jesus’s ancestry. Importantly, document of the Bible is vague and controversial. Anyone can not claim that the Bible is word of God. Therefor, you should prove the Bible is word of God and then talk about Quran as well.

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  5. Elias says:

    I am surprised you have read the Quran, the Bilble and you are not a Believer (Muslim) yet. Is it your heart or your mind that is getting in the way? Is it the attestations and evidence you have or the constant search for information that reinforces your predisposition? Is it the courage of your questions or the depth of your answers? Or is it your willingness to embrace what it true rather than what feels good?

    God Bless!

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      • Timm says:

        Not picking a side or anything, but in Islamic tradition, all believers all Muslim by definition. If you believe in God and the oneness of God, you’re a Muslim. This is because a “Muslim” isn’t just the term you use for those weird guys in the Middle East that you disagree with, its meaning is “a slave of God.” This means that regardless of if you’re “Muslim”, Christian, Jewish, whatever, you’re still a Muslim.

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        • Greatness says:

          Point of correction TMMM. Muslims are followers of Muhammad and believers of that Message of Islam. They also believe that the Quran is the word of ‘Allah’ given to their ‘prophet’.
          Allah, according to historic evidence, is actually the name of the highest idol existing before the birth of Muhammad. Muhammad CHOSE this IDOL’s name to refer to his ‘one god’. It was not The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob who gave Muhammad the name ‘ALLAH!’
          Believing in a single deity may make you a Muslim, it doesn’t make you a worshipper of the One, True GOD. To be a Christian, you have BELIEVE IN The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob ; and also IN Yeshua (Jesus), the Son of this God. That’s why Christians can’t also be Muslims. CHTISTIANS ARE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS, & SONS OF GOD, while Muslims are followers of Muhammad & ‘Slaves’ of Allah…

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  6. Furqan says:

    Quran means reading, and al-kitaab means THE BOOK not books.
    Torat means law not BOOK
    Injeel means good news not BOOK
    Never will you find in Arabic text Torat not injeej described as Books, but it’s put in our minds from clergy carried by mankind.
    translators put words which are not there in Arabic text

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    • Nicholas Mansfield says:

      Shalom Furqan, I thought that basharna means good tidings (S37:101), and injeel; Gospel. Torat is transliterated as Torah; instructions. The Qur’an defines Torah in the same manner as the Gospel, being the entire Tanakh; Prophetic and Mosaic Torah.

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      • Helena says:

        Bashara is the arabic word for “good news”
        Gospel is the Old English word for good news.
        Ingil is the arabic way of saying Evangel , the Greek word for good news.

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    • Helena says:

      It does not matter what the word ingil means, we know it means “the good news” but it is written in a BOOK!

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  7. Nicholas Mansfield says:

    I have studied Jewish, Christian, and Islamic texts for almost a decade in Shabbat, and whenever else I can. How do you interpret Matt.21:43? Although many of the early Gospels were destroyed (Taitan’s Diatessaron being an established example), and usurped by the Vulgate styled Canon, as well as other earlier replacement theology texts, there remains one early Gospel which points to where Mohammad may have been cited, although not directly by name. The Gospel in question is known only from fragments called Papyrus Egerton 2. The context is the well known confrontation between Yeshua and the Tsadokim strongmen where he is questioned over the tax to Rome. Here is where Yeshua quotes more of Isaiah 29 than any other Gospel portion.

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  8. Johann says:

    No one in this thread decided to speak either for or against the 3 syllogisms listed. I kept waiting for a well reasoned Muslim to answer saying that there is in fact a 4th possibility or something to that degree. NO ONE has directly addressed the thesis statement.

    My Muslim friends, you should seriously consider the ramifications of what was presented above. Your eternal fate could very well rest on how humbly you can receive this and whether it will spur you to examine the facts themselves or remain blindly accepting of the Q’uran because your Imam told you to.

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  9. Simon Hanks says:

    The bible WAS the word of god. It has been ALTERED, and made non-valid. Are you stupid to not understand that?
    The Quran never claimed the bible isn’t the word of god. It WAS back when it wasn’t altered. The reason the Quran exists is because of this. The word of God wasn’t out there anymore.

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    • Reni says:

      That’s true, you cannot claim the Quran is not the word of God by compare it with the ALTERED VERSION, how many times has the priest changed the bible? You can no longer say that nowadays Bible is words from God cause human have put their words there, leaving only small fraction of the original.

      Prophet Jesus was sent to straighten the words of God (Torah) which was altered by the people it was sent to, hence Injil, likewise with Prophet Muhammad and the Quran. Cause the previous nations ALWAYS altered their holy books when their prophet passed away or taken, just to suit their desire.
      See the Muslims, wont argue that some of us have distorted mind distorted attitude, some also tried to do the same, altered the Quran. But Allah already promise He Himself will defend it, and He did. That is why Quran is still in its original form when it was revealed more than 1400 years ago. And how can you explain that a 1400 years old book got no error in grammar, or meaning, no mistake at all, if its not from God? Do you think Arabs is that smart?

      If you really want to compare, compare it with the real version of Injil, the real version of Torah, and you will see they all ARE words of God, they are all in line, and bring the same messages: The Unity of God.
      The difference only lies in some laws cause different nation, different era, has different needs. That is why some which is forbidden for the people of prophet Moses then allowed for the people of prophet Jesus.

      Dont even ask if Muhammad is sent by Jesus, Muhammad was sent by God and Jesus is NOT God, they were both prophets, sent by the SAME God who sent Moses, Abraham, Noah.

      And the real version of Torah and Injil did foretold the coming of Prophet Muhammad. How else would Bahira the christian monk be able to tell Muhammad’s uncle about Muhammad’s prophethood when Muhammad was still small kid and Quran revelation hasn’t come? cause Injil told him about it.
      How else would the jewish in Madinah able to claimed that the next prophet will come from their nation if their holy book did not told them that there will be prophet after Moses? But when the prophet turns out to be from Arab nation and not from their own, the jewish refuse to accept just as how they refuse prophet Jesus.

      That just how it is, most human will not accept the truth if it was from people different than himself, especially from people they hate.

      If the reason for the writer to write this is to search for the real truth, and not to defend his ego, his opinion, then May Allah send His guidance, and open his eyes, and heart to accept it. And if its not the case, then Allah himself will judge him.
      I am not here to defend Quran cause like i say, Allah will do it Himself, I am just here cause I pity the writer, he doesn’t even understand which is the real words of God and which is not, yet he say this claim. Isn’t that sad?

      PS: Sorry for the grammar, English is not my 1st language.

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      • A brother in Christ says:

        Yes Bible did say that a prophet like Moses would come. And Jesus was that prophet. Think about it for a moment. Moses did miracles. Jesus did miracles. Moses spoke directly to God. Jesus spoke directly to God. Moses saved the people from oppression. Jesus saved his people from oppression, oppression of sin. See Jesus claimed to be God. He claimed he was the Messiah. And he rose from the dead to prove it. We can claim he didn’t but that would mean his desciples died for a lie. Why would they say they saw him risen and then die for a lie? There’s also the argument that Jesus said that after him the comforter would come. And the claim that’s Mohammed. John 14:26 says, ” but the comforter which is the holy ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ” Jesus says right there that the comforter is the holy ghost.

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  10. Khan says:

    If someone wants to seek true light. He should strive and Allah would show him the path. Religion(s) are for guidance of man to have virtue and success in the life here after. As for trinity concept the quran has very discussed the details of Maryam life and how she miraculusly conceived the prophet Masih and no doubt is left that if Allah can create one human being then He can create another without father. For people who seek guidence Allah says ”
    :
    We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their ownselves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur’an) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?”.

    How can someone belive that people who killed prophets and tried to kill the prophet Issa left torah unchanged. And last of all torah provided shariah i.e the law and bible needed torah for the law. Whereas the quran is complete in all aspects.
    The quran provided the most glorious picture of all prophets, Maryam and every human being. It’s unjustified to compare Qur’an the latest, most comprehensive and authentic book with books whose authenticity can not be proven by any modern standards.

    I would suggest if someone seek guidence he should go through Qur’an and if he find the right path, it is in his own benefit.
    Prophet Ibrahim searched for guidence and look towards sun, moon and star and finally found true, so all my friend who seek the truth would find it for own benefit.
    May Allah bless us all and show us the light.
    Ameen

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    • Jaminatu says:

      Thank you for that answer. i had a lot of questions as to why Muslims always claim the bible is fake but now i get it.
      i abandoned prayer some days due to that doubt. but now i know. if they killed the prophets why will they not alter the word of God

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      • Helena says:

        They dud not kill the prophets. How many people tried to kill muhammad? When he finally made it he himself started killing people all over the place! If you don’t believe in him you are also punished by death! Does this come from God?!

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        • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

          CONCEPT OF GOD IN THE BIBLE (JESUS IS NOT GOD)
          Narrated Ibn ‘Umar’ [Allah is Pleased With Him]: I Allah’s Messenger [PBUH] said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):
          1. To testify that La ilãha illallah wa anna Muhammad-ar-Rasul Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah).
          2. Iqamat-as-Salat [to perform the (compulsory congregational) Salat (prayers)].”)
          3. To pay Zakat 2 .
          4. To perform Haj. (i.e. pilgrimage to Makkah).
          5. To observe Saum [fasts (according to Islamic teachings)] during the month of Ramadan.[SAHIH BUKHARI, VOL. 1, BOOK OF FAITH, CHAPER 1, HADITH NO. 8 ]
          1. TO TESTIFY THAT LA ILÃHA ILLALLAH (NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPPED BUT ALLAH)
           Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shall love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. [DEUTRONOMY 6:4-5]
           Thou shalt have none other gods before me. Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, [DEUTRONOMY 5:7-9]
           Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyselfNto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,[EXODUS 20:3-5]
           I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. [ISAIAH 43:11]
           I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. [ISAIAH 45:5-6]
           And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, which is the first
          commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [MARK 12:28-29]

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    • ephrem says:

      thank you khan. you look polite but what you are saying is wrong because Qur’an revealed that Allah is deceiver at the beginning for what reason he deceive people since he is all knowing .please my brother don’t follow myth of Mohammed.

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        • flölşef says:

          instead of these, you can read quran, risale i nur collection and you will see all the explanation for islam believe me. we cant explain all these issues in here

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        EPHREM, WHY DO YOU WANT TO DECEIVE PEOPLE BY MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND ISSUING LIES ABOUT ISLAM AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH ) WITHOUT PROVES OR EVIDENCE? IS IT HOW YOU HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED IN YOUR RELIGION, TO INSULT AND GIVE FALSE INFORMATION?

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      • sumaya says:

        first of all i seek refuge in Allah from wat you just uttered and the day you stand infront of Allah s.w.t nobody will be there to save you not ur parents nor ur friends and just know that everyone is going to meet their creator without a doubt wat u just wrote is known to Him

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  11. Jaminatu says:

    I don’t even know what to type. We all have to examine the bible and the qur’an to be sure we don’t rot in hell. What i believe is God sent Christ to the Israelites who had a covenant with him. They broke the covenant so He took away his revelation to the Arabs. The bible talks about history the qur’an revels the future. The bible presents fiction the qur’an presents facts(science) as a science student i find it difficult if not impossible to see the qur’an as not the word of God. if it is not however, then God does not exist. However, i believe in the existence of God and that is the only way i find life worth living.
    search is catholic a cult
    is Baptist a cult
    and all the religions you know search if they are a cult.
    But if Islam is not of God and you are a religious then i hope to see you in hell because Christianity is not a religion.

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    • ephrem says:

      OK all Muslim claim that Islam is proven scientifically that is good but do you have scientific prove that Jesus will born without having father ,why he born from virgin Merriam , how and is that mean some thing is proven scientifically it is word of Allah and acceptable as the word of Allah ? ,the main mistake always the Muslims make to prove Allah because power of Allah and the reason Allah is simple to them to prove and speak proudly their religion and Allah is bigger than human capacity but Christianity teach GOD is beyond our level that’s why Christians believe in GOD that can make miracle which is difficult and impossible to prove by this little tiny human mind . if you prove it you will control it so it is not GOD but it is myth which Mohammed told to you follow by proving it scientifically . science is not the standard to measure GOD . GOD IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF SCIENCE don’t you know that my Muslim brothers and sisters .

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  12. Ben says:

    There are plenty of comments, but none that actually give a legitimate rebuttal to the above argument. I think that speaks volumes.

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    • Stephen says:

      I don’t know why people are following a blind man called himself a prophet of Allah, Mohammed is not prophet of God and Quran is not from
      God.

      God is not controversial, He has chosen his own Son that’s Jesus, If you see him, u av seen the Father.
      All the Muslims will go to hell…

      Mohammed claimed to be a prophet of Allah, a Warner of the idols worshipers in his time. At the same time,
      he claimed that he was Last prophet of Allah….

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      • GBS says:

        Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God. He was a son of God in the same way of all Hebrews designated as the sons of God. The idiom that he actually used meant a very observant or holy follower of God. No one can be a actual son of God in the sense that a human is the flesh and blood of his father. Even Paul placed the Christ below the order of God.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”…
          .
          John 10:29-30 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
          .
          Really now….. Care to try again ?

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      • Rowrow says:

        And I don’t how you consider them blind but blindly follow Jesus as the son of God, who is also God?

        The whole concept of Trinity is absolutely nonsensical. The forced made up justification of the concept is even more ridiculous. So God send Jesus who is his son, but is in essence him, basically meaning God himself came down to get tortured and die for everyone’s sins? How preposterous. So God creates man, lets man sin then curses all of humanity to a life of trials, some of which he guides and the others go to hell. Then he comes down to take away their sons, but when he leaves the world isn’t any better, same sin and crime and corruption.

        Perhaps you should consider some other premises:

        – Bible WAS the word of God until it was changed. If you don’t think so then how can you believe in all the books before it. By your logic every book after the first Abrahamic book is false. And then Quran came to correct what went wrong with the Bible.

        – NONE of the books are words of God. There are contradictions left and right. It’s been proven that humans could have written the Bible. There is nothing “divine” about it. All God would have had to do is mention a modern science fact. Genes, DNA, molecules, electrons, space, gravity, dinosaurs, Earth’s core, etc. A simple mention of an animal existing from the other side of the Earth would’ve made it seem divine enough. Yet there are only mentions of local animals around Jerusalem, because the book was limited to the perceptions of the people that lived there….that should tell you something.

        The only two things that make sense is either there is ONE God, no “son” or “father”, which would make Islam true. OR there is NO God as the books claim (there can still be a higher power but it’s not Jesus).

        Therefore the Bible is false.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
          .
          Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”…
          .
          John 10:29-30 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
          .
          Really now….. Care to try again ?

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        2. TO TESTIFY THAT MUHAMMAD-AR-RASUL ALLAH (AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH).
         I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. [DEUTRONOMY 18:18-19]
         And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. [ISAIAH 29:12]
         His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. [SONGS OF SONGS 5:16]
         They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked
        me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. [DEUTERONOMY 32:21]
         The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim. 14 The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty; they prevented with their bread him that fled. 15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war. 16 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail: 17 And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it. [ISAIAH 21:13-17]
         For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. [ISAIAH 28:11-13]
         And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed: [ISAIAH 21:7]
         If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever [JOHN 14:15-16]
         But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: [JOHN 15:26]
         Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [JOHN 16:7-8]
         I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [JOHN 16:12-14]
         Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. [1 JOHN 4:2-3]

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  13. Ardesheer says:

    Science? How can we explain many things in Life that don’t make any scientific senses? Besides, the standards of science has always been in constant changes and contradictions throughout the history. With all respect to my Christian Brothers and sisters, how can a book be words of the God when it says if a woman is raped , she is the one who should be punishable because she didn’t scream while being raped? Or, the daughters of Lut make him drunk and have sex with the father and the results are two boys…… If the God created man from his own image, then can we say the God is handsome or he looks like the old man ( which often times is been depicted)? Leaders of Christianity have not been able to answer these simple questions and instead they fool the followers by attacking other faiths blindly so they can run their Business. Have you thought how many innocent people were burned alive by the commands of churches because they believed on simple facts like the earth may not be flat and so on. Still you believe the Bible is not altered? To clear your mind one last thing from Bible: ” a bastard child is not allowed to enter to a church for ten generations….” . In today’s society, 35-40℅ of children are being born out of marriage and based on Bible’s law they are considered bastards. Then why still they go to church while violating laws of the book? Do you believe an innocent new born human is guilty and bastard while his birth was not his own choice?? And this is the God’s words??

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    • AJ says:

      Oh Come on Dear you don’t need to be so offended. It is very common perception among muslims that Quran contains many scientific facts. This perception is created by high profile muslim scholars like Zakir Naik if you know him. That is the reason that made me to share those scientific facts above. I have noticed many times that whenever anything gets proved to be wrong in Quran then Muslim people start blaming or calling those facts wrong which they have kept telling right in support of Quran in first place. Now come to your points you mentioned above about bible. First of all if any church anywhere in the world past or present if ever did such a barbaric acts then it have nothing to do with the preaching of Bible. You have to give the references from Bible to support your this argument about burning people. Don’t make statements without any proof or reference from Bible. Please also provide proof from Quran where it has said that Bible or the books sent down before Quran were altered or fabricated. I’m certain that these sort of blames are made by Muslims scholars to brain wash or mislead their Muslim brothers and sisters against Bible to prove Quran authenticity. I have a question for you against your argument about Loot and his daughters. Whom did the sons of Adam and Eve married with when there were no woman from other parents? One more thing never judge any religion by the act of its followers instead you must read the authentic Holy scriptures of that religion with unbiased mind.

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    • jason head says:

      Ardesheer, you say that, “how can a book be words of the God when it says if a woman is raped , she is the one who should be punishable because she didn’t scream while being raped?”

      The only verses I can find that are similar to what you are describing (and yet totally inaccurate) are the following:

      Deuteronomy 22:23-28
      “23 “If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.

      25 “But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. 26 But you shall do nothing to the young woman; there is in the young woman no sin deserving of death, for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter. 27 For he found her in the countryside, and the betrothed young woman cried out, but there was no one to save her.

      28 “If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.

      These verses are to protect the women in a male dominated society where women had few rights.

      And, you mention Lot and his two daughters. The bible does not condone sin but records it which is an apologetic for it’s truthfulness. Even the great men and women in the bible were sinners, made mistakes and the bible faithfully records them. It also faithfully records a God who is merciful and forgiving when they and we honestly turn from our sins and He forgives based on His Son’s sacrifice.

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      • give a chance says:

        you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll see islam is true religion and also please read rısale ı nur collectıon

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  14. Radwan says:

    I have to say that the biggest error a person attempts is to separate religion from science or facts, I am a muslim but I speak generally now.
    when people believe in the bible, torah or quran they believe that their words are true, so they believe it is a fact.

    why do u assume that science and religion are against one another.
    I appologize to my fellow christians but Islam actually preaches people to follow science and better yet seek knowledge where it can be found.
    In a nutshell: I am a muslim, I believe that the bible was true but it was corrupted for many reasons, and when quran refers to christ as a muslim it only implies that the Injil is the same source of the bible and from the same god.
    Also some people refer to religions as supernatural believes, no it is not, anything can be explained scintifically, everything is bound by the laws of physics, nothing just comes out of nowhere and Islam is here to show us that where the followers of the christian faith failed and some labeled science as infidelity.
    just one more note: i think that your efforts to find answers or to discuss religion is admirable but as a muslim I really hope that you don’t read translated s from quran to try to understand it because Quran is not fully understood by anyone and the arabic language is so deep and it is hard to decipher the meaning from simple translation.
    ty for being transparent and welcoming different opinions and may peace be with you

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    • AJ says:

      Can you please provide me the Bible that you referred to be true? Please don’t speak without substantial evidences.

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    • The One says:

      When we speak of scientific evidence – science is only mans way of trying to figure out God and that is simply not possible. While we can argue all day long – your salvation is not based on religious affiliation. There is only one that is ALL KNOWING. No body wants to submit to Gods Word anymore (error or not so says man/science) so now we have all these religions and people doing what they want to. Religion is man made and design to cause division. One thing is promised – we will all die. Yes, it important what you believe, and how you live. It is important to embrace the truth about Jesus Christ because eternity is an awful long to time to be wrong. Carry on all of you because it is wasted time and energy trying to figure something out that you never will while living here on this earth. THE END. Much love!
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    • SH1 says:

      I have an idea for you.

      Address Allah as God of Isaac, Abraham and Jacob

      Ask Him
      Please remove satan and his fallen angels from my presence so I can only hear your voice.

      In the beginning it said your Spirit hovered over the waters so please send your Spirit to guide me.

      Lord of heaven and earth , please reveal the truth to me about Jesus.

      Amen

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  15. Human says:

    Lets us all imagine together. Let’s say that the revelation was sent to Muhammed via Gabrial. And let’s say it really happened. The problem was how Islam became after his death. How the leaders of Islam currupted the history of it all. Telling the world that Islam (the teachings of it) is how Muhammed wanted it to be. His own cousin Ali was fought against during his caliphate by muslim leaders although Ali was the closest human to Muhammed. Why didn’t they let Ali pass the message the way he learned it from his cousin? Why when the planned assasinating of Ali, Maaweya, and Amr, the successful assasination was Ali’s? Maaweya was sick that day and didn’t go for the morning prayers. Whereas Amr, was able to protect himself. To me, this looks like an inside job.
    So there must be a lot of things that the muslim nation were fooled about.
    It would be great if some muslims stop being ignorant and just read from resources other than islamic resources. Because of course Islamic resources would not show or tell the dark side of Islam.
    The Arabs and muslims ruined it all from the beginning and shows that they will never know the truth. If the Islamic control was obtained differently, there would be some light in this world.

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    • Melonie says:

      Theres truth to that .. people ruin a lot of things . but theres really one clear message n thats to worship god n theres only one god

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      • give a chance says:

        you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll see that islam is true religion and also please read rısale ı nur collectıon

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      • SH1 says:

        Very true

        God is a word for an entity.

        God also had no limits.

        YHWH is the MIND OF GOD

        Jesus was fully GOD Entity also.

        He said I and my Father are ONE

        WHY?

        Because GOD is a word used to describe the Head of the Spirit realm,

        Then the Holy Spirit is the Spirit we carry as Christians which gives us communion with The GOD entity.

        YHWH is the head
        Jesus was a body YHWH chose to manifest his presence on earth and provide a gateway to salvation.

        And The Holy Spirit is the guide and comforter and much more.

        He’s the pathway we have when we lay hands on people when they get healed from sickness and disease and injury.

        Praise GOD 🙏🏻

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  16. Maijn says:

    I’ll break out to you straight up. Stories themselves are myth. We have to use or men and women eyes when we read them. You have to understand Tawrat and Injeel from the Quran perspective. Torah which means induction (law according to most translations) from the Biblical perspective is the first five books. Gospel in a Biblical sense consist of the first for amounts of the Christian Scriptures. Tawrat was revealed to Moses. Let’s define Moses first. Moses alayhi salaam is a representation of rules and regulations. Tawrat is not so much stone tablets. Stone tablets are a symbol. Tawrat is actually universal law and order. Jesus (Isa) alayhi salaam is a representation of Scripture. Injeel is actually wisdom. The Quran is confirming Universal Law and Order. The Quran also confirms Wisdom. The Books confirmed are not necessarily physical.

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  17. Stephen says:

    Mohammed is a idols worshiper,if not, why Mohammed leave the black stone when he destroyed the idols inside the Kaaba?

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      DO BODY WORSHIPED THE BLACK STONE DURING THE PERIOD OF JIHILIA (BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD). AND THE SAYING OF THE 2ND CALIPHATE OF ISLAM TESTIFIES THAT MUSLIMS ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE BLACK STONE. HE (2ND CALIPHATE) ” YOU THIS BLACK STONE, YOU CAN NEITHER DO ME GOOD NOR HARM ME. I AM KISSING YOU BECAUSE I SAW THE PROPHET DOING SO. EITHER THAN THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE KISSED YOU”

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        NO BODY WORSHIPED THE BLACK STONE DURING THE PERIOD OF JIHILIA (BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD). AND THE SAYING OF THE 2ND CALIPHATE OF ISLAM TESTIFIES THAT MUSLIMS ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE BLACK STONE. HE (2ND CALIPHATE) ” YOU THIS BLACK STONE, YOU CAN NEITHER DO ME GOOD NOR HARM ME. I AM KISSING YOU BECAUSE I SAW THE PROPHET DOING SO. EITHER THAN THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE KISSED YOU”

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  18. Melonie says:

    Get a copy of the original bible from when it was revealed then you will have a true basis. This cannot be done since the bible has been translated over and over again , therefor has lost a lot of its meaning. A true bible will not contradict then Koran , it will strengthen its words. Which also brings me to my next point, the text you are reading and displaying here is English and the Koran is in Arabic. For someone to truly understand it , they have to know Arabic. This is why there are many classes for learning Arabic to read the Koran.. God said to never change the Koran because he knew what us humans have done to the books before it , such as Torah and Bible. I think you should research a little more and do not worry too much about religion and worry more about finding the truth , you will find your answer and God will guide you if this is really in your heart insha Allah

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      • give a chance says:

        you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll see that islam is true religion and also please read rısale ı nur collectıon

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    • SH1 says:

      Get some William Tyndalevsndvread ye olde English thennyou will see need for translation lol

      Amplified Version is closest

      But bro

      You have to have easier to read stuff for people

      But I agree somewhat

      As the versions change it softens the importance and deity that Jesus is

      Question for you though Brother

      He’s not dead either so why do you say PBUH?

      God bless 🙏🏻

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  19. Bukenya Abubakar says:

    A Muslim believes in all those Divine books(Torah, Psalms, Gospel) before the Holy Qur’an AS THEY WERE REVEALED TO THE RESPECTIVE PROPHETS but not the corrupted ones.
    Secondly, the Torah was revealed to prophet Moses, Psalms to prophet David and Gospel to prophet Jesus(peace be upon all of them), then to who was the Bible revealed?? To tell the truth, the Bible is a combination of some components of the Torah, Psalms, Gospel and some collection of people’s tales. Since no prophet received the Bible, am sorry to say, the Bible shouldn’t be a book of reference regarding religious matters.

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    • give a chance says:

      you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll see that islam is true religion and also please read rısale ı nur collectıon

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    • Greatness says:

      Moses (of the Bible) received The Law -in the form of verbal instructions – it was not a revelation like the Quran claims. David (of the Bible) was inspired to write worship PROSE
      (Psalm). Jesus (The Messiah) was not shown (or given) anything while on earth to deliver to humanity during His first appearing. This is because rather than being a messenger He was The MESSAGE Itself, HIMSELF. He came from God with everything He needed to fulfil His mission on earth.

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  20. Samar Qureshi says:

    Everyone looks at life through their own prisms that are based on life experiences and how they were raised.

    so lets find common grounds:

    1. Do we all believe in one God – Most people acknowledge this – the idea of multiple gods does not even pass smell test.

    2. Do we share history – Yes In more ways than one… Adam, Noah, Abraham and many … are all common characters and stories.

    3. So where do we differ… Minor but important

    Judaism – God’s main want is obedience and is very focused on the affairs of Jews. Rules of the game are revealed in Torah for obedience.

    Christianity – As a climax to the mankind, God appeared in flesh. He is big on faith and he sacrificed himself for people of faith. Bible describes history and demands faith in lieu of eternal salvation

    Islam – God sent Muhammad (phuh) after Jesus (phuh) and he is just another messenger like thousands who have come before but he is the last one and comes with the final set of rules for the mankind

    These minor differences are not trivial though. What is at stake is the whole eternal life which is infinitely longer than this one – so it is the most critical decision on one’s life.

    Jewish philosophy would make sense for Jews but its too intrinsic – there are 7 billion people is world and Jewish % is very low.

    Christianity I feel lacks accountability across times considering we are at the fag end of long human civilization – and why god had to appear in flesh only now? and why to reduce Gods omnipotence to human stature? and why one ones then? and what about human deeds? – faith cannot be enough.

    Islamic view is the most balanced and places everyone equal across all times. Gods want submission to his will. Rules have changed for the game of life as humans have socially, culturally and mentally evolved – and you got to put up with the latest rules in Quran – as simple as that.

    As humans further evolve socially, culturally and mentally why did God not send another Prophet? Because we are approaching the end of times – communication and connectivity has become widespread. The need is to control the message and Jesus (phuh) will come back to affirm the Islamic message which some Christians believe will the second coming of Jesus for Christianity – you can believe what you want but I am firmly with Islam.

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  21. Hunzai says:

    Samar Qureshi’s note is excellent. But coming to the point: Is Quran Word of God? Recalling premises given by the author of this blog:
    1. Considering premises 1, Yes Indeed Original Bible was word of God. But the present books which we find with Christians are corrupted ones. That’s why there are a lot of versions. Some Christian researchers agree that bible is not word of God. Just google “Why Bible is not word of God”.
    2. If you feel that Quran contradicts Bible, there are two reasons: Some rules laid down by Bible were for that specific period, while Quran is for mankind till the end of Times. A rule set by Bible may be changed by Quran just like a number of rules set by Old Testament were changed by New Testament. The second reason is that Bible in hands of Christians today is corrupted and altered. Therefore it seems that Quran contradicts Bible. For example God had not said that Jesus was His son in original Bible, nor there was any indication of Trinity theory.
    3. Quran in many places said that Books revealed to them (Christians and Jews) were words of God. But Quran also warns that they were corrupted by human hands, and attributed their own words to God. This is true, when we see many versions of Bible with different authors each claiming that to be word of God.

    After studying Trinity theory, one can agree that Christians are not monotheists at all.
    In fact those premises fail to conclude that Quran is not word of God.

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  22. Syed says:

    There have been a lot of discussion about the prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and The Quran being the word of Allah (God). I would like to say just couple of things:

    1. Islam (Quran and Muhammad) confirms that Prophet Musa (peace be upon him) (Torah) and Jesus (peace be upon him) (Injil-Bible) were The righteous people and those who followed them absolutely as they guided them.

    2. Jews interpreted the Torah and twisted the meanings as suited them. The God through his utmost mercy sent the Jesus (peace be upon him) who corrected the belief and showed the right picture.

    3. Followers of Musa (Jews) did not accept Jesus (peace be upon him) and said things they must have not said. They tortured and persecuted those who followed Jesus (peace be upon him). This resulted long on-going battle between Christians and Jews until second world war

    4. Followers of Jesus (peace be upon him) did the same as Jews. Deviated from the actual teachings of the Jesus and his guided apostles. Churches and priest interpreted the bible to suit them and their interests.

    5. Again Allah (God) through his utmost mercy to the mankind revealed Quran to Muhammad (peace be upon him). Through the Quran Allah removed the misconceptions/ changes in the previous revelations that happened over the course of time.

    6. Followers of Muhammad (peace be upon him) are no different then the previous two groups. Soon after Muhammad (peace be upon him) people of Quran divided into sects simply due the different interpretations of the Quran. There have been several fighting’s among the Muslims and even happening now.

    We, children of Adam, have the same nature that is to look after and fight for our own interests as an individual, family, groups, tribes and nations. we kill each other in the name of religion, tribalism, nationalism but the aim is simply to gain and protect our worldly benefits. I will simply request to all the groups do your sincere search for the truth without any bias and with the pure intention that you will follow the truth come what may you will be guided. Task is easy for us as we (Jews, Christians and Muslims) believe in God. Pray to your own God with utmost sincerity and ask for guidance> He will guide you.

    I read the bible and it increased my belief in Islam ( as revealed to Muhammad – peace be upon him) necessarily not what Muslims follow today. I have no shame to accept that true Islam is only in the books and may few and far Muslim individuals life. I have yet to find a town, not and city or country, who live according to the teachings and Guidance of Muhammad (peace be upon him) not even Arabs.

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  23. Yasmin says:

    I am delighted to see that someone at Crossexamined.org is debating on the Quran. This is a topic that needs divine research and also understanding of the Hebrew, Arabic before jumping to conclusions on the evidence to prove that Quran is not the divine guidance to mankind immaterial of people with any race, religion or cultures. Please note, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) has been placed as the number 1 personality in the human history and Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is placed the third in the list of the book titled ‘100 Ranking of the Most Influential People in the History’ by Michael Hart.

    Just because Muslims are extremely humble, this does the qualify for others to talk such nonsense. Please visit the countries and visit the hospitality rendered by the Muslims around the world. Also please note Muslims are the most generous/charitable humans in human history and Christians fall into the second category. I think you need to work on your further research and not be too judgmental and jump to the conclusion without valid pieces of evidence. Kindly revise your arguments. Wish you all the best and may our Creator guide you with divinity and take you to the Right Path. Ameen.

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  24. Learn Quran says:

    A detailed article and a good attempt from the writer to express their opinion. In order to establish whether the Quran is the word of God or not, we have to understand the Quran in its true spirit and the time in which it was revealed. It is not at all a valid point to reject the Quran being the word of God that bible is the word of God and the two books can’t be from the same God. Bible was revealed to the prophet Christ and it was for that period and the commandments were also according to those circumstances. The Quran clearly says that Bible, Torah & Injil are all books of Allah. When the Quran was revealed, it nullifies all the previous books and the teachings contained in them since the Quran was declared the last and authentic book from Allah. Furthermore, the Quran predicted thousands of scientific miracles more than 1400 years ago which recently proved true. A number of other valid reasons can be presented to prove that the Quran is the actual word of God.

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    • Kalmaro says:

      The Quran says the Bible is true, but the Bible says it is the only truth. That alone right there causes some problems. It takes a lot of work to try and harmonize the Quran and the Bible.

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  25. Susan says:

    I always thought this Bible passage settled everything and there will be no more Bible updates until the second coming. If you accept the Bible as the Word of God then why is there a need to prove anything with an argument? Just accept God’s testimony through His prophets as final.

    Galatians 1:6-8New King James Version (NKJV)

    Only One Gospel
    6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

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    • Kalmaro says:

      Apparently the Bible got corrupted, despite it being from Allah. Which you would think would mean that he could protect his own word but I guess even Allah has limits.

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      • Susan says:

        The Bible is the Word of God that is why everyone attacks it so vehemently.

        There is a synagogue of Satan in this world and it attempts to corrupt and control the Bible in all sorts of various ways. That’s one way you can spot it as authentic.

        Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. What do imitators try to copy and steal authority from? Why from originals, of course.

        Wouldn’t everyone like to be God’s favorite?

        Still God has His ways so you will have to read and refer to the Bible like everyone else if you want to learn God’s ways and look out for all of the false prophets.

        There are more false prophets in some churches and other cults and religions today than there are real prophets.

        You can spot a real prophet because he will usually be the one getting stoned by the world. He won’t be stoning any person in the world. Just their lies, false reasoning and arguments.

        God is love. So isn’t that a statement about God’s state of being?

        Love is the fulfillment of the law.

        So inspect the major religions to see who fulfills God’s law the best.

        There are a lot of pretenders to the throne but God is love so who is the most like God?

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  26. Susan Tan says:

    The Bible is given to man from God like a child is given to a man.

    It is up to God’s men to protect the Bible the same way a father would protect his baby.

    Christians are the children of God. Adopted into God’s very own family. Just because the rest of the world challenges that fact doesn’t change God’s testimony on it.

    Jesus Christ was the most important person ever born because He was the Son of God and the Son of Man.

    God incarnate. The Word of God in human flesh.

    And Jesus Christ brings the gift of spiritual birth to everyone who loves him, believes in him and receives him with joy and thankfulness.

    No mere prophet brings spiritual birth through the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    It is only Christ’s gift to give.

    Besides what prophet ever corrected God and got away with it? God corrected Jonah, Moses, David, Abraham, etc.

    God corrects everyone and if you are blessed you will allow Him to correct you in this life.

    Every person that doesn’t accept Jesus in this life will be judged by him in the afterlife.

    But isn’t it better to be accepted by Jesus now in this life? While you can still be legally adopted by God? Then submit to the tutoring and leading of the Spirit of God.

    That is my favorite doctrine: adoptiion.

    Every man, woman and child ever born is a spiritual orphan without Jesus but under the Law of Redemption God sent Jesus into the world to adopt everyone that will trust him for their salvation.

    It is hard to get the truth of God’s intentions without a good Bible education so I am just breaking down God’s Word for you.

    Pray on it and ask God for guidance.

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      Susan Tan and others,
      REASONS WHY WE THINK THE BIBLE CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD
      Absurdities In The Book Of God, The Holi Bible?
      (a) A TALKING ass. NUMBERS 22:27-28
      (b) FOUR footed fowls. LEVITICUS 11:20
      (c) Birth of females a DOUBLE pollution. LEVITICUS 12:1,2,5
      INCEST IN GOD’S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
      (a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “The next day the older daughter said to her sister, l slept with him last night: now let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. “So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “In this way both of Lot’s daughters became PREGNANT by their father.” GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the “Good News Bible in Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.”
      INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:
      (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. ” GENESIS 35:22.The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.
      INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:
      (c) “When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) “She said what will you give me?” (To have sex with me). “He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK. “She said, “All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat. N “. . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant.” GENESIS 38:15-I8 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”)

      (d) Shamgar KILLS 600 with an ox goad. JUDGES 3:31
      (e) Samson KILLS A THOUSAND with the jaw bone of a donkey. JUDGES 15:15-16
      (f) A SEVEN HEADED leopard. REVELATION 13:1-2
      (g) To eat SHIT and drink PISS. 2 KINGS 18:27 and ISAIAH 36:12
      (h) DUNG on your faces. MALACHI 2:3
      (i) To eat cake with SHIT. EZEKIEL 4:12-15
      (j) Samson has SEX with a whore in Gaza. JUDGES 16:1
      (k) Ruth COHABITS with Boaz in the barn. RUTH 3:4-15
      (l) David SLEEPS with a young virgin. 1 KINGS 11:1,3
      Contridictions In The Bible
      (a) The “Lord” tempted David . . . 2 SAMUEL 24:1 or “Satan” provoked David . . . 1 CHRONICLES 21:1
      (b) 700 or 7000? “Horsemen” or “Footmen” . . .? 2 SAMUEL 10:18 vs 1 CHRONICLES 19:18
      (c) Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 KINGS 7:26 vs 2 CHRONICLES 4:5
      (d) Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 CHRONICLES 9:25 vs 1 KINGS 4:26
      (e) Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn’t he? 1 SAMUEL 28:6 vs 1
      CHRONICLES 10:13-14
      (f) Heaven, no man hath ascended JOHN 3:13 Contradicted by: 2 KINGS 2:11 Elijah ascended, and GENESIS 5:24 Enoch ascended.
      (g) Jesus lost “None” of his disciples JOHN 18:9 Contradicted by: He lost only “One” JOHN 17:12
      (h) “ALL” are sinners 2 CHRONICLES 6:36 Contradicted by: “Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commit sin . . .” 1 JOHN 3:9
      INCEST IN GOD’S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
      (a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “The next day the older daughter said to her sister, l slept with him last night: now let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. “So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “In this way both of Lot’s daughters became PREGNANT by their father.” GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the “Good News Bible in Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.”
      INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:
      (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. ” GENESIS 35:22.The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.
      INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:
      (c) “When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) “She said what will you give me?” (To have sex with me). “He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK. “She said, “All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat. N “. . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant.” GENESIS 38:15-I8 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”)
      Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ. See MATTHEW 1:3 “And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . .”
      INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN BROTHER AND SISTER:
      (d) “. . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not to be confused with Thamar in “c” above), and said unto her, Come lie with me (have sex with me), my sister. 2 Samuel 13:11 “And she answered him, Nay, my brother (Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God’s own heart), do not force me . . .” 2 Samuel 13:12 “But he would not listen to her; and since he was stronger than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister).” 2 Samuel 13:14
      WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS!
      (e) “So they set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof, and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his father’s concubines .” 2 SAMUEL 16:22
      (f) For other various types of incest see LEVITICUS 18:8-18, 20:11- 14 and 17-21. 1. “Concubine” is synonymous

      and many more…………….

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  27. God is love says:

    Greetings and welcome Muslim friends!
    I was reading through the comments and my heart just broke seeing people being mistreated. I’m a Christian and I’m sorry if you didn’t didn’t feel loved on and welcome.
    A lot of times we forget we can disagree and be kind and respectful to others we don’t know. To my Christian brothers and sisters, please remember to be kind and gentle. Even if you’re not treated the same way. There’s a human being God created on the other side of that keyboard. Just as you may have had times of trouble, pain, and heart ache so have they. Muslims are people of faith, although different beliefs I have been fortunate to have some great Muslim friends. One of my neighbors who is Muslim has two beautiful kids that have often baked cookies and brought them over to my wife and I. We love those kids and that family. If they needed anything we would help them in a heartbeat. Whether your Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc. Jesus commands us to love our neighbor as we love ourselves Christians.

    Would love to have an intelligent, yet polite discussion with my Muslim friends here, I’m interested to hear more about your beliefs and how they differ or relate to us. As Christians we believe the Bible to be truth just as you believe in the Koran to be truth. The Bible is the sum of the Old Testament and the New Testament which are a collection of several other books. While we don’t have the original pieces, we do have several copies or second hand accounts that have been found throughout history. Per Secular historians (non Christians), these second hand accounts qualify as historical proof. I’ve read that we have better historical evidence for the Bible than we do Alexander the Great who we have no mention for 400 years later.

    In the Old Testament we see God creates man. God sees man should be not alone and He creates woman out of man rib. Man is not greater than woman, they each have their strengths and weaknesses. The Bible notes, woman again was a part of man. From there man ends up rebelling and sinning, going against God’s laws and plan. Throughout the Bible the constant theme I see is man keeps rebelling against God’s will and laws. Although man keeps sinning, God keeps pursuing a relationship with them. God has characteristics of a father. He knows we’re going to make mistakes and in our case sin, yet He still loves us. He loves us so much that He correct us. Sometimes correction requires punishment to move and change our hearts. In the Old Testament the Israelites would need to offer burnt offerings or sacrifice a lamb to atone for their sins . Fast forward and in books of the Bible there are several prophets that speak about someone that is going to save humanity. There are several verses in books that describe Jesus hundreds of years before He comes. God sends Jesus, His only son to be the savior of the world. Now as Christians we believe in one God, but believe in the trinity. God the father, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. All are God and God is 1, not 3 separate Gods. The best analogy I can think of is a company, for example Apple computers is a company but has different people working for Apple in different departments. You’re still Apple computers at the end of the day whether you work in sales or I.T. . Jesus is God and came to earth in human form to be mans savior. He is sinless, all powerful, and loving. The New Testament is beautiful, even if you don’t believe it. What Jesus taught can be valuable and applicable to any person. The Bible is filled with a lot of people with a lot of problems. A lot of the same ones we have today. Lust, greed, adulterer, pride, etc.. you name it, its there. What I love about Jesus is all the disciples He chooses are ordinary men. Some are fishermen while others were tax collectors(even in those times people didn’t like taxes, collectors were really not liked!), and others outcasts. God chose the most unlikely cast aside people to be His disciples (right hand men). These men followed Jesus and throughout the Bible we see them make mistakes and you see there hearts begin to transform by walking with Jesus. Not only is Jesus described as being fatherly, but He is relational. He pursues relationship with man even when man rebels, He still loves you. No matter how bad you think you messed up, God still loves you. God says even the rain falls on the righteous and the wicked. He loves everyone. Throughout the New Testament, the religious leaders of that time were always trying to trick Jesus and trap Him. One story that sticks out is there were several religious leaders getting ready to stone a woman who committed adulterey. Jesus shows up and he says, whoever hasn’t sinned be the first to cast a stone. Rumor has it, Jesus kneeled and wrote the sins of each person in the sand/dirt. Jesus repeatedly shows love and what we call Grace. It is not acceptance of sin, but a gift from God. If you remember I mentioned earlier there had to be sacrifice and there were consequences for sin. Jesus is called the lamb of God and our savior because He took on all of the sins of man and he was innocent. Jesus let Himself be crucified and was brutally tortured and killed for our sins. The Old Testament system of sacrificing and offering was no longer necessary because Jesus took on the punishment of all of humanity. The reason He is called the lamb of God. 3 days later Jesus rises, he conquers death and gives us the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit equips up to guide us in this life. God is a God of grace, love, relationships, mercy, compassion, strength, and righteousness. In the last book of the Bible, it mentions Jesus will come back for His people during times and tribulations and the great deceiver who rules this earth now will be cast out. All will be restored. 🙂 Now you don’t have to agree with anything I said at all, but it’s what I believe to be truth. I’m not going to try to convince anyone , only God can stir and change the heart of someone if He is trying to reveal something. It’s all love here whether you agree or disagree.

    From my understanding the Koran has some
    similarities. Muslims believe the Bible was altered (don’t worry I’m not offended at anyone’s beliefs my friends). My question for my Muslim friends which book of the Bible or was it all of it that was believed to be altered? What do you think the motivation was by man to alter it then? The way I see it if it was changed shouldn’t the people be made to seem more perfect in it and not have so many problems?

    Look forward to discussing and learning more about your thoughts! May God Bless you!!

    Christians feel free to add or correct me if I misspoke or misquoted something 🙂 . God please forgive me if I said anything that offends you and let it fall to the ground.

    If anyone wants to have a private discussion or has questions I’m happy to answer them. Feel free to post and we can figure out how to connect!

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      3. JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD AND HENCE NOT DIVINE
       I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. [JOHN 5:30]
       My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all;………………….[JOHN 10:29]
       ……..I cast out devils by the Spirit of God,…………… [MATHEW 12:28]
       …………………I with the finger of
      God cast out devils, ………………………….. [LUKE 11:20]

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”
        .
        John 5:19-30 19 So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does. 20 The Father loves the Son and shows Him all He does. And to your amazement, He will show Him even greater works than these. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes. 22 Furthermore, the Father judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, 23so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. 24 Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment. Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life. 25 Truly, truly, I tell you, the hour is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has granted the Son to have life in Himself. 27 And He has given Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29 and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. 30 I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
        .
        John 10:29-30 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
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        Matthew 12:27-32 27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28 But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 How can anyone enter a strong man’s house and steal his possessions, unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.
        30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
        31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come.
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        Luke 11:17-23 17 But Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste, and a house divided against a house will fall. 18 If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand? After all, you say that I drive out demons by Beelzebul. 19 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 20 But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are secure. 22 But when someone stronger attacks and overpowers him, he takes away the armor on which the man relied, and then he divides up his plunder. 23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
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        Mark 1:9-11 9 In those days Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10 As soon as Jesus came up out of the water, he saw the heavens breaking open and the Spirit descending on Him like a dove. 11 And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”
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        .
        “JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD AND HENCE NOT DIVINE”
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        REALLY ????

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      God is love,
      The same bible disagrees with the concept of some one die for the sins of another in the book of Ezekiel 18:20-21 which read;
      20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
      The way to salvation is also clearly stated in the gospel of mathew 19:16-17 which reads;
      ” And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. ” he never says believe that i die for sins of the world.
      And many more. for more discussion, you can contact me on +233246985578

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        1 John 2:1-2 1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate before the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours alone, but also for the sins of the whole world.
        .
        Matthew 26:26-29 26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, spoke a blessing and broke it, and gave it to the disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is My body.” 27 Then He took the cup, gave thanks and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until the day when I drink it anew with you in My Father’s kingdom.”
        .
        Mark 14:22-25 22 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, spoke a blessing and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “Take it; this is My body.” 23 Then He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, and they all drank from it. 24 He said to them, “This is My blood of the covenant,d which is poured out for many. 25 Truly I tell you, I will no longer drink of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it anew in the kingdom of God.”
        .
        Luke 22:14-20 14 When the hour had come, Jesus reclined at the table with His apostles. 15 And He said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before My suffering. 16 For I tell you that I will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 After taking the cup, He gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among yourselves. 18 For I tell you that I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20 In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you.
        .
        1 Corinthians 11:23-26 23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: that the Lord Jesus, on the night He was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you;a do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.
        .
        “he never says believe that i die for sins of the world.”
        .
        REALLY ????

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    • Lawrence Brazier says:

      Excellent post. My name is Lawrence Brazier, I am a British journalist, living in Austria, covering religious affairs. I am currently reviewing a book about the commonalities between Jesus and Muhammad. Mail me – lawrence1@aon.at – if you feel prompted – God bless – Lawrence

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        I can save you the research and the book and sum it up in one word about the commonalities between Jesus and Muhammad.
        .
        NONE

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  28. Blacksnow says:

    Saints and sciences, which are the fruits of the Quran

    Saints and sciences, which are the fruits of the Quran,prove that the Quran is the word of Allah.

    If we liken the Quran to a tree, the branches represent the centuries, and the fruits and flowers represent the saints and the great scholars that lived in that century.

    If a tree has fruits and flowers, we know that it is alive. Nobody can claim that a tree that has thousands of fruits and flowers is dead. For, when such a claim is uttered, each fruit and flower will say, “Look at us; our life comes from the life of the tree. We feed on the roots of our tree; then, our tree is alive.” Therefore, in order to deny the life of the tree, it is necessary to deny the life of the fruits and to refute their statement. A person who cannot deny the life of the fruit and the flower cannot deny the life of the tree, either.

    Similarly, a person who cannot deny the saints and scholars, who are the fruits of the tree of the Quran, cannot deny the Quran, which is the tree of those fruits, either.

    Therefore, if we utter the following sentence, it is true: “The Quran is the word of Allah because Abdulqadir Ghaylani has so much perfection that the non-Muslims who lived in the same age as him said, ‘We do not accept Islam but we cannot deny Abdulqadir.'”

    That is, we can use the perfection of Abdulqadir Ghaylani as evidence that the Quran is the true word of Allah. For, he is a student of the Quran
    The perfection and karamahs in him originated from the root of the Quran. If it were not the word of Allah – God forbid – the fruits in this tree would not appear. Since they appear, the Quran is definitely the word of Allah.

    Then, all of the saints and great scholars that lived during the last fourteen centuries prove that the Quran is the book of Allah with their karamahs, knowledge, nice attributes and lifestyles that show the truth.

    A person who cannot deny them all cannot deny the Quran, which is their luminous tree.

    They cannot deny even one of them, Abdulqadir Ghaylani; how can they deny all of them?

    All of the true sciences of Islam prove that the Quran is the word of Allah.

    If we liken the Quran to a tree again, true sciences of Islam like fiqh, fiqh method, tafsir, kalam, aqaid and tasawwuf are the fruits of that tree.

    Can we doubt the life of a tree that has so many true fruits on its branches?

    In order to deny the life of a tree, it is necessary to deny its fruits, which are the signs of its life, first; a person who cannot deny the fruits cannot deny the tree, either.

    Similarly, in order to be able to criticize the Quran and to deny the life of this luminous tree, it is necessary to deny the true sciences of Islam, which are like its fruits.

    It is impossible because each science is based on sound rules, mental evidence and logical rules. It takes years to learn only one of those sciences. Only genius people can be experts in one or two of them.

    Is it at all possible that the Quran, whose fruits are true sciences like that, can be the work of an illiterate person and all of those true sciences originate from it? It is impossible. Then, with the witnessing of these sciences, which are the fruits of the Quran, the Quran is the word and holy book of Allah.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      I know NOT who this person was that you speak of “Abdulqadir Ghaylani”; nor do I need to in order to make the following statements.
      .
      Mark 10:18 “Why do you call Me good? Jesus replied, “No one is good except God alone.
      .
      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
      .
      John 3:1-8 1 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.” 3 Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.” 4 “How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

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  29. kurt says:

    I will admit I have not read through the 100 replies, but every reply l have read from a Muslim has avoided the authors conclusion….”To conclude, the argument developed above represents a formidable challenge to the Islamic religion, and I challenge any Muslim to show me where I have erred. In order to maintain his Islamic faith, a Muslim must reject one or more of the Premises of the syllogism given at the start of this article. If he cannot do so, the conclusion follows necessarily and inescapably.”

    In other words, all Muslim replies are just red herrings. If I’m wrong and there are relevant replies I haven’t seen yet, please repost them in reply here.

    Thanks, and God bless you as you seek the truth.

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    • give a chance says:

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  30. yusha says:

    shalom —quran and torah injeel (holy bible ) are all truth
    because the small mind canot piece together in one fabric—is no error of the revealtions given
    but rather of the individual
    for only the living god th e one true god can guide and teach this truth
    inshaAllah –as god wills so it shall be …
    so seek war and seek discordance –seek the falling of ur own soul..
    for the WORD of god is the deciding factor
    obedience to the WORD of god = blessing /life/good
    disobedience to WORD of god = curse/death/evil
    it has always been this from the beginning
    obedience to the WORD of god
    see adversity if u will…yet shalom exists for those that seek shalom
    as the creator’s WORD reveals..

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    • kurt says:

      The Bible and the Quran say exactly the opposite about Jesus. If one is true, the other must be false. Our God is not a God of confusion.

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      • Gohar Shah says:

        KURT!!!

        There is no such clean belief of God than that in Islam.
        ” Say Allah is One(Unique). Allah is Absolute (Flawless). Neither was begotten. Nor begets. And there is nothing like Him.”

        You will not find a concept of God so clean, so universal and so flawless as you see above because that is His description of Him.

        We shall not associate humanly wants and needs with Him.

        God made man and man made computer.
        As computer (though the fastest machine) cannot comprehend human being completely unless it is not fed by human then how a few pounds of human brain could comprehend a Being Who made the infinite universe.

        Regards.

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        • give a chance says:

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        4. SALAA (WORSHIP)-[ Iqamat-as-Salat]
        I. ABLUTION (CLEANNESS)
         And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying, 18 Thou shalt also make a laver of brass, and his foot also of brass, to wash withal: and thou shalt put it between the tabernacle of the congregation and the altar, and thou shalt put water therein. 19 For Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands and their feet thereat: 20 When they go into the tabernacle of the congregation, they shall wash with water, that they die not; or when they come near to the altar to minister, to burn offering made by fire unto the LORD: 21 So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a
        statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations. [EXODUS 30:17-21]
         And he set the laver between the tent of the congregation and the altar, and put water there, to wash withal. 31 And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat: 32 when they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses. [EXODUS 40:30-32]
         Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat [2 SAMUEL 12:20]
         Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them. [ACT 21:26]
        II. REMOVING OF SHOES OR SANDALS BEFORE ENTERING PLACE OF WORSHIP
         Then said the Lord to him, Put off thy shoes from thy feet: for the place where thou standest is holy ground. [ACT 7:33]
         And the captain of the LORD’S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place where on thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. [JOSHUA 5:15]
         And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place where on thou standest is holy ground. [EXODUS 3:4-5]
        III. WHAT IS THE FORMAT OF WORSHIP?
         Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. [AMOS 5:23]
         That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of music, like David; [AMOS 6:5]
         And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God forever and ever. Amen. [REVELATION 7:11-12]
        IV. WORSHIP STARTS BY RAISING UP ONES HANDS AND PROCLAIMING “ALLAHU AKBAR” MEANING GOD IS THE GREATEST
         Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name? [PSALM 63:4]
         Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the
        mountain of his holiness. [PSALM 48:1]
        V. HOW WERE THE PROPHETS OF GOD AND OTHER GOOD PEOPLE WORSHIPPING GOD?
         And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him,……….. [GENESIS 17:3]
         And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them. [NUMBERS 20:6]
         And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads. [JOSHUA 7:6]
         And he said, nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, what saith my lord unto his servant? [JOSHUA 5:14]
         And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the LORD upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. [2 CHRONICLE 7:3]
         And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. [NEHEMIAH 8:6]
         All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. [PSALM 22:29]
         O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker. [PSALM 95:6]
         For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. [JUDGES 13:20]
         And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God. [1 KINGS 18:39]
         And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground,…………………………………….. [1 SAMUEL 20:41]
         And it came to pass, that, when Abraham’s servant heard their words, he worshipped the LORD, bowing himself to the earth. [GENESIS 24:52]
         And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. [MATHEW 26:39]
         And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face,………[MATHEW 17:6]
        VI. HOW SHOULD PEOPLE PRAY IN CONGREGATION OR GROUP?
        And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up: 6 And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. [NAHEMIAH 8:5-6]

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  31. Susan says:

    To think anyone would think the Qu’ran replaced the Bible or that the Bible ceased to be the Word of God because some translators mistranslated some words is simply incredible to me.

    God and His Word is never invalidated by the errors of men.

    Also according to Muslims you aren’t even suppose to read the Qu’ran unless you can read Arabic.

    So if the world can’t read it how can it heed it?

    Also why suggest such an earthly limitation to Arabic comes from God? Doesn’t He know how to interpret all languages when people pray to Him?

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    • Gohar Shah says:

      Susan!!!

      God is your Master so you have to obey Him not He is to obey your wishes. If you believe in God then be His obedient slave and find out the reason and logic behind His will.

      And by the way, no one will stop you to read the translation of the Holy Quran for your understanding.
      And what’s a big deal if you can learn Oxford dictionary by heart in order to be in the Guineas book then spare some time for your eternal salvation as well.

      Regards

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      • Susan says:

        Well I believe God expresses His will in the Bible and gave up reading all other religious texts a while back believing that would please God. Perhaps you can get a copy in Arabic if that is your first langauge.

        Jesus Christ came to be the redeemer of all men in accordance with the kinship requirement of the Old Testament law of redemption. I hope you read up on it.

        God bless you!

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        • give a chance says:

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        • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

          6. TO OBSERVE SAUM [FASTS (ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC TEACHINGS)] DURING THE MONTH OF RAMADAN
           Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. [MATHEW 17:21]
           And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting [MARK 9:29]
          7. TO PERFORM HAJ. (I.E. PILGRIMAGE TO MAKKAH).
           Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways
          of them. 6 Who passing through the valley of Baca (ANOTHER NAME FOR MAKKAH) make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools. 7 They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God. 8 O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer: give ear, O God of Jacob. Selah. [PSALM 84:4-8]
           In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD. 20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them. [ISAIAH 19:19-20]
           9
          After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all
          nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and
          before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried
          with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and
          unto the Lamb. [REVELATION 7:9-10]

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  32. Abby says:

    Both the Qu’ran and bible have parts that may seem harsh. But between the 2, the Qu’ran is harsher. Especially when it comes to their ‘peace’ and their special treatment for women. I agree there are also some amount of sexism in some parts of the bible but this one in the Qu’ran is quiet strange. I witnessed this muslim guy beat up his wife for I didn’t care about and when the neighbors decided to report the guy, the woman defended that it accepted in the Qu’ran. At first I thought she was crazy. I didn’t want to jump into conclusion so I found this Muslim who explained it to be symbolic beating which is supposed to be done with toothbrush or small stick and there shouldn’t be injury. Funny enough, the extent was not added in the Qu’ran when I check it up. Why do you have to hit her in the first place? I understand that some things in both the Bible and Qu’ran were more of ancient culture than religion but hey, the fact there is some ‘explanation’ to the word beating makes it religious. I am saying this because domestic violence against women are popular with Muslims, in the name of this pathetic excuse and moreover no limit was stated. I have stayed with muslims for about 10 years so I know what I am saying. They are very kind especially to fellow Muslims but in terms of peace, they are only peaceful when they are the minority. At least, the Jesus did not teach violence nor wife beating.

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    • Gohar Shah says:

      ABBY!!!
      Come on. Don’t be biased against something you don’t know. There is nothing in the Holy Quran that wives should be treated with physical torture and kindly don’t preach this. Check the Hinduism where women were burned after they their husband would die.
      Our prophet Mohammad (SAW) was a live version of the Holy Quran. Bring me a single evidence that he tortured any of his wives physically rather his in his last sermon, he ordered Muslims to treat their wives with love and affection.

      I advise you to study Islam thoroughly rather than the so called Muslims of the day and even human being is by far corrupted thus you will hardly find a faithful person to their religion and beliefs so do some or many of the Muslims as well but Islam doesn’t teaches that.

      Regards

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      • give a chance says:

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        5. . TO PAY ZAKAT (CHERITY)
        And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins [1 PETER 4:8]

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      Abby and others, let us look at how the bible treat women
      1. a woman cause sin to enter the world. [genesis 3]
      2. women are being perceived as evil and hence are placed below men. there fore they are called daughters of men and not daughters of God. [genesis 6]
      3. a woman gets no inheritance if there brothers. [numbers 27:8]
      4. a woman who even inherit cannot marry outside her father’s family.[numbers 36:6-8]
      5. the vow of a woman can be cancelled by either the father [numbers 30:6] or her husband [numbers 30:14]
      6. a woman is guilty until she is proven innocent through
      a. bitter water test for adultery [ numbers 5:11-31]
      b. father’s testimony of her virginity [Deuteronomy 22:13-21]
      7. rape of a lady [Deuteronomy 22:28-29]
      8. women are not allowed to speak in public [1 Corinthian 14:34] and [1 timothy 2:11-12]
      and many more……….

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  33. Africa says:

    God is ONE ….No ONE has ever seen Him and both the holy bible and the noble Qur’an warns us to worship something or to a seen god and to have other lord besides Him Alone the Lord of the Throne Who was there at the Beginning of the Beginning of the Beginning of the Beginning Only Him we shall bow down..Indeed our Lord our God Allah is One Who has no blood nor flesh who does not eat nor get hungry and thirsty Allah is most High

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  34. Gohar Shah says:

    “Little knowledge is a dangerous thing.” The promises made by the writer of the script are purely based on mediocrity and lack of knowledge about Islam, Christianity and Judaism. I won’t write much as my view won’t turn on the dumb, deaf and the blind who has a stamp on their hearts and who even after reading the Holy Quran, remained unchanged. I hope my simple view would help the followers of the writer in order to retrospect.
    Why God sent the Holy books to human being?
    When Adam knew that God is One then why many turned polytheist and his coming generation?
    Why lesson after the lesson?
    The answer is that human mind has got a scrap memory and as they forgot that their father Adam was descended from heaven, the same way they forget the words of God and the Holy Bible has unfortunately got fingers of the human being as the holy Torah got before the holy Bible.

    THE HOLY QURAN HAS REFORMED WHAT WERE WRONGLY PRESENTED AND MISINTERPRETED BY MANY IN THE HOLY TORAH, THE HOLY BIBLE AND THE PALMS.

    Regards.

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    • give a chance says:

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 14:6-7 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”

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  35. saif says:

    Quran is the last book from Allah. It is true book without any doubt. Bible is not in its orignal form. You can see every day new editions of bible comes but Quran is in its orignal form and no corruption is in it. It is the book in its orignal form. So Quran is the word of God that is Allah. Dont make false proofs by yourself. Anyone who wants to know about Islam should read the Quran and Ahadees, do not see these types of posts where they make things by themselves and Jesus(Hazrat Isa PBUH) is the messanger of Allah. we respect him and he is not the son of God. Also he is not God but the creation of God that is Allah. Allah is the only God. no God except Allah

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  36. Terry Lewis says:

    One quick question for my Muslim friends… Exactly when was the Bible corrupted?

    If you claim that it happened before Mohammed lived, then please explain why Mohammed and Allah endorsed a corrupted document in the Quran.

    If you claim that it happened since the time of Mohammed, please explain how the manuscripts we have that were written long before Mohammed lived AGREE with the documents we use today.

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  37. Religion in your face says:

    1. The Quran does not tell Muhammed anywhere to “When in doubt…..” .
    2. The Quran does not say Psalms. It says Zaboor which people just think with no basis is Psalms just because apparently David wrote Psalms.
    3. Quran does not speak about the Bible. It speaks of the Gospel which is not in the Bible.
    4. The Torah is not in the Bible. The pentateuch is not the Torah. That is also what some people think with no basis. And it has been proven that Moses did not write the Torah but 4 different schools of thought. Do some research on the Documentary Hypothesis.
    5. You said Quran speaks of the old and new testament in 7:157. Does it say old testament? Does it say new testament? No. It says taurat and injeel which are not in the Bible.
    6. Of course the Quran denies Jesus was son of God. If you believe Jesus is the son of God, so must be ephraim. Actually he was Prototokos, the eldest. Then he must be Jesus’s elder brother.
    7. And of course the Quran denies the trinity. Through the bible you can only prove a bit of binetarianism, not the trinity.
    8. The only verse that had the trinity was 1 John 5:7 which has been taken away because it was a lie someone entered into the Bible. Older bibles dont have it.

    The bible is a collection of 75, 73, 66, or 80 something books depending on the version. It is not the Injeel or the Torah.

    Nevertheless it has been proven by scholars, not just laymen who write articles that the four gospels in the canon were never written by those names, they were never called Gospels, that is a concocted name, and no one knows who wrote them.

    Codex Sinaiticus has Shepard of Hermas and Epistle of Barnabus. Codex Alexandrinus has two letters of clement. This was the oldest canon of the Bible which later Christians threw away.

    So many stories concocted and put into the Bible. Four central concepts attributed to Jesus are forgeries added to the Gospel of Luke

    •Appearance to his disciples
    •Jesus dying for the sins of humanity
    •His ascension to heaven
    •Disciples worshiping him while he ascends

    HUMAN ADDITIONS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

    The story of the adulterous woman

    Any Christian or anyone who has at least watched TV would recollect the woman of adultery and the wisdom of Jesus Christ that saved her from being stoned. This appears in the 7th and 8th chapters of the Gospel of John. This story was not in the bible but added later by human intervention.

    “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”

    This is probably one of the most known quotes from the bible and it is not easy for anyone tobelieve that this whole story (John, Chapter 7:53-8:11) was never in the older bibles but added later on by some scribe. In the earliest manuscripts of the bible the verses depicting the story of the adulterous woman is not available. A simple comparison between the King James Version and the New International Version (NIV) of the bible would portray this fact.

    Why would any scribe need to insert a story of this nature to the bible? Yes, that is a pertinent question.

    Though through time the world has forgotten the importance given to Mary Magdalene in the early periods of Christianity, Mary Magdalene was known to have been Jesus’ partner. This is a debated fact but the story above is attributed Mary Magdalene, probably with the purpose of turning her into a reformed prostitute. This was probably done by scribes intentionally to phase away the idea of Jesus having an earthly partner.

    One of the Gospels thrown away at the council of Nicea was the Gospel according to phillip which has a verse that indicates Jesus to have coveted Mary. In fact, Gospel of Peter, Mary Magdalene and Thomas are all of this claim.

    A woman who has not given birth to children may become a mother of angels. Such a woman was Mary Magdalene, a companion of the Son. The Lord loved her more than He loved all other disciples and oft en kissed her on her mouth. The other disciples, seeing Him loving Mary, said, “Why do You love her more than us?”. Answering them, He said, “Why do I not love you as her?”. – Phillip verse 55

    The four canonised Gospels in the bible does not directly voice Jesus to have a relationship with Mary but does not negate it either. She was the one most concerned about him, first to meet him upon his return after the alleged crucifixion and she leads the female disciples.

    Be it fact or fiction, the question naturally raised is, why would scribes add such a story by hand? Biblical scholars largely concur with the reality of this story being a concoction.

    Speaking in new tongues and performing miracles

    The famous declarationof Jesus thatpeoplewill perform miracles inhis name and speaking in new tongues etc did not happen. It was not in the bible originally but added later and used by many Christians to justify their evangelistic missions, miraculous healing and other practices.

    He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

    The above verses and the surrounding story of Jesus going to his 11 disciples werehumaninnovations notcontainedinthe oldmanuscripts(Mark, chapter 16, verses 9-20).

    Jim Jones, the founder of a group called “Peoples Temple” and followers drank cyanide and perished due the belief in these verses. It was entered into the Guinness book of world records for the largest mass suicide with 909 peopleincluding300 childrendyinginbelief ofa scripturalpassage concocted by scribes with agendas, verses that never existed in the bible.

    The Trinity creed

    The most important doctrine in Christendom is the doctrine of the Trinity, Father, the word and the Holy Spirit. People will find it impossible to believe that this is not in the bible.

    But then again it is there in the 1st epistle of John, chapter 5, verses 7 and 8. This is human addition.

    •For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
    •And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. – King James version

    This was an erroneous and probably an intentional addition to promote the doctrine of the Trinity. The actual text according to Codex Sinaiticus which is probably the oldest manuscript found has the following.

    •For they that testify are three,
    •The Spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are one.

    The verses also differ in the New International Version which was also translated according to ancient manuscripts.

    •For there are three that testify:
    •The Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

    I believe any reader could easily comprehend that the trinity verse was concocted intheKing JamesVersionandlatertakenout by Christianscholars after identifying the concerned verse as a fabrication.

    Who wrote the Pentateuch?

    Pentateuch is a name given to the first 5 books of the bible also referred to as the Torah. This is the scripture of the Jews and the most important book of the Old Testament for the Christians. The Torah contains most of the stories we have seen in movies, heard of and relived all our lives.

    It is a general contention of most Christians that Moses wrote the Torah himself. But a simple read through the scripture will show otherwise.

    Can a dead man write?

    The most significant verse that breaks the contention of Moses’ authorship is one of the last verses in the Torah.

    •And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. The Israelites grieved for Moses inthe plains of Moabthirtydays, until the timeof weeping and mourning was over. – Deuteronomy 34:5 – 8

    It is impossible for Moses to write his own eulogy as above declaring that his body was never found. This in fact clearly indicates that a third party wrote the book and also that it was long after Moses passed away. In fact recent studies show that there could have been at least 4 different authors of the Torah due to the textual style, reference to God etc. Yahweh, Elohim and Adonai are some of the significant words used to refer to God and the writers completely differ in reference to God, nature of God and agenda. It is a basic argument that if it was God who dictated all texts in the bible, the style of writing, his own nature or name will have the same nature.

    This analysis is very basic and deeper studies have been made which would take a whole report to elucidate. The bible is one of the most important books in the world which is dear to any theologian or any Christian. But the acceptance of its nature is important because it is then, that humans could make intelligent choices and understand the fact that that the books do contain God’s word but every passage cannot be accepted as God’s direct word.

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    • give a chance says:

      please you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll defınıtıelysee that
      islam is true religion and
      also please read rısale ı nur collectıon please…

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  38. Sunday says:

    For me I don’t need any religion to tell me what his good or bad, because naturally without religion we can know what is good and bad, but for those of you who claims that the bible and quran are from God, my question to you his these, Can you tell me who are you, where are you when your mum and dad have not known themselves, even talking of having sex before your mother taking your dad spam, before the spam turnout to be you. And can you please tell me how many people on earth are made up sand or dust.

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    • give a chance says:

      please you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll defınıtıelysee that
      islam is true religion and
      also please read rısale ı nur collectıon please… you wıll defınıtely fınd your answer and ı understand your feelıns trust me

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      • mkas says:

        guyyys heyy guyyysss. the person recommending you to watch zakir naik and nouman ali khan is me and ı am not recommending anymore. just read quran and sunnah and read risale i nur collection to see all proofs about islam and you will not regret islam is true religion. believe me
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  39. Jezic says:

    Ignorance is a big disease, will you ask your self how Mohamed came about?
    research the history about Mohamed you will find out how Satan used him to
    destroy the plan of God for man kind after 600 years Jesus have established His
    Church rooted from Judaism and you wont be ashamed to take up the cross for
    your salvation. Read then. I will here your testimony

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  40. TRUTH DOESNT HIDE says:

    If you truly want to know depth knowledge of the prophet Muhammed, S A W, please look for true original and authentic books on him to read and stop fabricating lies about him.
    Again, the Quran indeed is revealed to to testify Injeel and Touraah, from God and not a narration or report written by men about God. What Quran agrees to is original writings of God and not what people said or narrated. Quran does not support the authored or written bible of the men of the world.
    Please my dear ones, I think we are all arguing and not insulting. Please let’s respect ourselves and our religions. We must respect elders and other people even if we think they are not prophets of God. No religion will teach you to insult innocent people. Please let’s be wise and be humble

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    • Susan says:

      If you want to know God personally then pick up a copy of the Bible in any language you can read and read His Words.

      Jesus Christ adopts all who love and receive him as the Son of God into the family of God.

      Then you won’t have to practice jihad to go to heaven.

      You will be a member of God’s very own family if you read and accept what it says to do in Romans 10:9.

      Fear God not what this world will do when you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior because God controls the whole world and Jesus Christ and the Father are One. God says so Himself in the pages of the Bible.

      The real thing is a relationship with God. The thing most worth having in this lifetime is a relationship with God.

      If you don’t have a real relationship with God then you are in a weak substitute the world terms “religion”.

      Read the Gospels and accept Jesus and he will lead you into the very family of God for all eternity.

      Thanks for reading and May Jesus’ Love, Joy, Grace and Peace Abound to You! And it will if you get to know Jesus from the 4 Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Remember Jesus walks beside you in times of tribulation and testing. Like he did with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        Susan,
        i picked up a bible to read as you proposed and a found the following attributes of GOD:
        Qualities ill-befitting God –
        (a) A “hissing” God (?) ISAIAH 5:26, 7:18, ZECHARIAH 10:8
        (b) A “roaring” God (?) ISAIAH 42:13, JEREMIAH 25:30
        (c) A “barber” God (?) ISAIAH 7:20
        (d) A “penitent” God (?) JEREMIAH 15:6, GENESIS 6:6
        (e) A God “riding” a cherub (?) 2 SAMUEL 22:11
        (f) A God murders 50,070 for looking into a box (?) 1 SAMUEL 6:1
        In Arabic, Hebrew and Greek there
        is no differentiation between a capital “G” for God, and a small “g”
        for god, as in the languages of the Western countries today; yet the
        Christians have played fast and loose when translating the Bible, i.e.
        (a) “In whom the god (the Devil) of this world hath blinded the
        minds of them which believe not . . . ” 2 COR. 4:4
        (b) “And the Lord said unto Moses, See, 1 have made thee a god
        to Pharaoh, and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.”
        EXODUS 7:1
        Compare the above with JOHN 1:1, where the Christians have used
        capital “G”‘s and “W”‘s when referring to Jesus.
        His contradictory attributes –
        (a) “No man hath seen God at any time” JOHN 1:18
        (b) “(God) whom no man hath seen, nor can see …” 1 TIMOTHY 6:16
        (c) “And he (God) said, Thou canst see my face: for there shall
        no man see me, and live.” EXODUS 33:20
        Contradicted by:
        (a) “And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man
        speaketh unto his friend.” EXODUS 33:11
        (b) “And they (Moses, Aaron and seventy others) saw the God of
        Israel . . .” EXODUS 24:10
        (c) “And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have
        seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” GENESIS 32:30
        And as a special favour God shows his back parts to Moses:
        “And I (God) will take away my hand and thou shalt see my
        back parts . . .” EXODUS 33:23
        Is not a fabricator of confusion –
        (a) “For God is NOT the author of confusion . . .” 1 CORINTHIANS
        14:33
        Contradicted by:
        (a) “. . . I make peace, and CREATE EVIL . . .” ISAIAH 45:7
        (b) “But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL
        SPIRIT from the Lord troubled him.” 1 SAMUEL 16:14
        (c) “And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion,
        that they should BELIEVE A LIE.” 2 THESSALONIANS 2:11
        Further contradictory qualities –
        (a) GOD AS AN OMNIPOTENT BEING:
        “And Jesus saith . . . for with God ALL THINGS are
        possible.” MARK 10:27, also MATTHEW 19:26
        Contradicted by:
        “And the Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the
        inhabitants of the mountain; but COULD NOT drive out the
        inhabitants of the valley, because they had CHARIOTS OF
        IRON.” JUDGES 1:19
        (b) GOD’S ANGER ABIDETH FOR A MINUTE:
        “For his (God’s) anger endureth but a MOMENT.” PSALMS 30:5
        Contradicted by:
        “And the Lord’s anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them (the Jews) wander in the wilderness FORTY YEARS . . .” NUMBERS 32:13
        (c) GOD DOES NOT SHOW ANY SELF-REPROACH:
        “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should REPENT . . .” NUMBERS 23:19
        Contradicted by:
        “. . . and the Lord REPENTED that he made Saul king over Israel.” 1 SAMUEL 15:35
        Also: “And the Lord REPENTED of the evil which he thought to
        do unto his people (Israel).” EXODUS 32:14
        (d) GOD’S MERCY ENDURETH FOR EVER:
        “For the Lord is good; and his mercy is EVERLASTING.” PSALMS 100:5
        Contradicted by:
        “I (God) remember that which Amalek did to Israel (four
        hundred years before) . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and
        UTTERLY DESTROY ALL they have, and spare them not;
        but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, and
        sheep, camel and ass (the donkey).” 1 SAMUEL 15:3
        (e) GOD DWELLS IN LIGHT:
        “. . . (God) dwelling in the LIGHT which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see . . .” 1 TIMOTHY 6:16
        Contradicted by:
        “Then spake Solomon, the Lord said that he would dwell in
        the THICK DARKNESS.” 1 KINGS 8:12
        (f) GOD DOES NOT ENTICE MAN:
        “Let no man say he is tempted, I am TEMPTED of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, NEITHER TEMPTETH he any man.” JAMES 1:13
        Contradicted by:
        “And it came to pass after these things, that God DID
        TEMPT Abraham . . .” GENESIS 22:1

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        • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

          Susan,
          I also read about Jesus christ in the bible and i found the following:
          JESUS CHRIST IN THE BIBLE
          1. HIS FIRST MIRACLE IN THE HOLY BIBLE AND THE HOLY QUR’AN:
          To turn water into wine at the marraige feast at Cana JOHN 2:9
          In the Holy Qur’an his first Miracle was to defend his mother, as an infant, against the false accusations of his enemies. SURAH MARIAM 19:30- 33
          2. HIS INVECTIVES AGAINST THE ELDERS OF HIS PEOPLE:
          (a) “Ye hypocrites . . .” MATTHEW 23:13
          (b) “Ye wicked and adulterous generation . . .” MATTHEW 16:4
          (c) “Ye whited sepulchres . . .” MATTHEW 23:27
          (d) “Ye generation of vipers . . .” MATTHEW 23:33
          (e) He calls his mother “WOMAN” JOHN 2:4, the same manner in which he addresses a prostitute, “. . . WOMAN where are those thine accusers?” JOHN 8:10 ”
          THE PRINCE OF PEACE,” boasts that he had not come to bring peace on earth but fire and division!
          “I came to set the earth on fire, and how I wish that it were ALREADY KINDLED.
          “Do you supposed that I came to bring peace to the world?
          No, not peace BUT DIVISION.” LUKE 12:49 and 51
          (JESUS) NOT GOD! Jesus would not allow anyone even to call him “good”, let alone call him god, even with a small “g”.
          “One came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
          “And Jesus said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD . . .” MATTHEW 19:16-I7
          3. (JESUS’) POWER NOT HIS OWN:
          (a) “And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power is GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth.” MATTHEW 28:18
          (b) I can of mine own self DO NOTHING: as I hear, I judge . . .” JOHN 5:30
          (c) “. . . I by the FINGER OF GOD cast out devils . . .” LUKE 11:20
          (d) “And Jesus lifted up his eyes (towards heaven), and said, Father, I thank thee that THOU HAST HEARD ME. “And I know that THOU HEAREST ME ALWAYS: but because of the people which stand by l said (my supplication aloud), that THEY MAY BELIEVE that thou hast sent me. “And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. “And he that was dead came forth . . .” JOHN 11:41-43
          Who then gave life back to Lazarus? The answer is “GOD!” For God heard the prayer of Jesus, as “always!
          LISTEN NOW TO PETER’S TESTIMONY:
          (f) “Ye men of Israel (O Jews!) hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, A MAN approved of God (meaning a prophet) among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which GOD DID BY HIM in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.” ACTS 2:22
          WAS LUKE INSPIRED BY GOD TO SAY THAT JESUS (PBUH) WAS THE SON OF JOSEPH?
          “And Jesus himself began to be ABOUT (“about” the Holy Ghost did not know for sure) thirty years of age, being (AS WAS SUPPOSED) the son of Joseph . . .” LUKE 3:23
          The words “(as was supposed)” appearing in brackets are not in the original Greek manuscript of Luke! These words are a gloss of the translators.
          In the different vernacular languages of the world, like Arabic, Afrikaans, Zulu, etc. the words “as was supposed” are retained in the translations but the brackets are removed. Thus by removing the brackets the words become the declaration of Luke, and if Luke was inspired then the words are transmuted into an utterance of God. This is how easily the word of man is transformed into the word of God in Christianity.
          JESUS (PBUH), TOO SELF-CONSIDERATE:
          “There came a woman with a box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his (Jesus’ pbuh) head “But when his DISCIPLES saw it, they had INDIGNATION, SAYING, to WHAT PURPOSE IS THIS WASTE?” “For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.”
          “When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, why trouble ye the woman? For she hath wrought a good work upon me.” “For ye have the POOR ALWAYS WITH YOU; but me ye have not always.” MATTHEW 26:7-11
          4. POWERLESS
          (a) I can of mine own self DO NOTHING . . .” JOHN 5:30
          HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE HEREAFTER:
          (b) “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.” MARK 13:32
          HE WAS IGNORANT OF THE SEASONS:
          (c) “And seeing a fig tree afar of having leaves, he came if happily he might find any thing there on: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves, FOR THE TIME OF FIGS WAS NOT YET.” MARK 11:13
          JESUS (PBUH) AS A THIRSTY “GOD”?
          (d) “. . . (Jesus) saith, I THIRST.” JOHN 19:28
          JESUS (PBUH) AS A WEEPING “GOD”?
          (e) “Jesus WEPT.” JOHN 11:35
          Remember that this is the shortest sentence in the Bible! (Only two words)
          IMAGINE A “GOD” BEING TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL (?)
          (f) “Where he (Jesus) stayed forty days, being tempted by Satan.” MARK 1:13
          5. ONLY CAME FOR THE JEWS (A RACIST)
          (a) “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them saying, GO NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans ENTER YE NOT. “But go ye rather unto the lost sheep of THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (to the Jews only).” MATTHEW 10:5-6
          (b) “But he (Jesus) answered and said I am NOT SENT but unto the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF ISRAEL (the Jews only). “Then came she (the Canaanite woman) and worshipped him, saying Lord, help me (to cure my daughter). “But he answered and said, it is not meet to take the children’s bread and CAST IT TO DOGS (the non-Jews).” MATTHEW 15:24-26
          6. JESUS’ (PBUH) SECOND COMING, NEVER MATERIALISED:
          “But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye unto another, for VERILY I say unto you, Ye shall NOT HAVE GONE over the cities of Israel, till the SON OF MAN (as referring to himself) BE COME.” MATTHEW 10:23
          The disciples of Jesus fled and they fled, and have now perished for two thousand years, with no sign of the return of Jesus.
          JESUS (PBUH) SPOKE IN PARABLES TO DECEIVE THE UNINITIATED:
          “. . . all these things are done in parables. That seeing they may see, and NOT perceive; and hearing they may hear, and NOT understand; LEST at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven.” MARK 4:11-12
          7. HATE AS FOUNDATION OF HIS (JESUS’) FAITH:
          “If any man comes to me, and HATE NOT his father, and mother, and wife, and children . . . HE CANNOT be my disciple.” LUKE 14:26
          PETER CONDTRADICTS JESUS (PBUH) REGARDING HIMSELF AS “THE ONLY WAY:”
          “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the father, but by me.” JOHN 14:6
          Contradicted by:
          “Then Peter opened his mouth . . . But IN EVERY NATION he that feareth him (God), and worketh righteousness, IS ACCEPTED with him (God).” ACTS 10:34-35

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  41. Omar Abdul Fatah says:

    With respect to all my Christian brothers and sisters, I would urge us all to reconsider the assumption underlying this entire debate. That is whether the Bible is true or the Quran is true. Why can’t both be true? Indeed, that is the position of the Quran. And as this article pointed out, the Quran actually tells our Christian brothers and sisters to uphold the Injil (very often translated as “Bible”). I believe anyone who reads both scriptures with an open heart, seeking the truth, will see that both have the same author and both preach the same message: God is One, and Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad are his slaves and messengers. May Allah (meaning the One True Creator in Arabic. Also used by Christian Arabs) guide us all to the truth. Ameen.

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  42. -Muslim~ says:

    In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

    *None of this properly states that the Holy Qur’an is unauthetic*
    The Qur’an is definitely the word of Allah, the ruler of the worlds. Is anyone there who can wrote even a phrase as such? And then, the claim that the Noble Qur’an was to be revealed on a follower of Hazrat Isa (RA) , then, well, 1) The Bible has been through major edits 2) The Holy Prophet (PBUH) , whose original name was “Ahmad” was born aong the pagan Quraish, if you study the books of Farkhanda Noor Muhammad, you’ll definitely find a perfect expalnation of how people had forgotten the message of Hazrat Isa (RA) and were involved into the deepest form of polytheism, the Prophet Mohammad (SAW) came upon as a light of guidance, and NO tradition, neither by a muslim, nor a non-muslim can report ANY sign of paganism and ignorance in him. Even though not the follower of Christians, he never went near the idols, and pondered over the God of his ancestors. And according to aunthetic traditions, he had accompanied his uncle to a trade journey to Syria, and a Christian Monk had found the qualities of the future Prophet, as said by Hazrat Isa (PBUH) , in Hazrat Muhammad (SAW).
    Secondly, when the muslims migrated to Abyssinia, Nijashi (Negus), the Christian ruler had asked Hazrat Jafar (May Allah be Pleased with him) to recite some verses of Al-Qur’an and he had recited those of Surah Maryam, and Nijashi had claimed : “By God, this and the Gospel are the lights of One Candle.”
    And if blaming the Last Holy Messenger of Allah, he was reffered as Al-Sadiq and Al-Amin by even the bitterest enemy, and they entrusted him their goods. Abu Sufyan, the greatest enemy and persecuter of the muslims had himslef claimed that he had never heard Muhammad (PBUH) telling a lie. As for the fact that the Qur’an deals with the crucifixion in a false way, I recommend the Question & Answer session of Dr. Zakir Naiq , in Dubai, ep#1. Watch it, you’ll be speechless.
    This page is really, seriously disturbing, and I request the writer to re-read the Qur’an, he will defintely be amazed at the flawlessness of every word. Any flaw? If he suggests that Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) made up the Qur’an, how come he write something so authentic, so flawless? Even the best selling author in the present world needs an editor, never has any human wrotten a piece without a flaw. And Allah Ta’llah has promised to save the book, and see, is any word altered? Any single letter? If Muhammad (PBUH) wrote it, is there any possibility taht he didn’t make a mistake? Check out what the Companions have to report about the coming down of the Holy Revelations. The have personally visualised the Holy Prophet (PBUH) sweating, his weight increasing, can you call that fake, too?

    The Qur’an is the words of the Master of the Worlds, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Praise be to Allah, who has no diety.

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  43. Matt says:

    Does it not strike you odd that the Koran is a watered down version of the Bible? It seems obvious that Muhammad was envious of the Jews/Christians, so he decided to make his own religion based off of what was already there. The other thing that’s confusing is how God would entrust Muhammad with authority to interpret God’s word. His character seems nothing close to holy, by any standards. What if the angel Muhammad was referring to was satan?

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  44. Ramir says:

    You are stupid you will get your balance from god won’t you listen in the Quran Muhammad is the prophet of Allah Bielieve or not the only god is Allah and Muhammad is his prophet If you want to get the gennet say ibielieve that Allah is the only god and Muhammad is his prophetess

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  45. YOUR BROTHER IN HUMANITY says:

    TO MY DEAR CHRISTIANS AND BELOVED BROTHERS/SISTERS OF HUMANITY – I ASK YOU 3 QUESTIONS:
    1) What language did Jesus Christ speak as he preached the Gospels in the middle east?
    -ANSWER: It was ARAMAIC (an ancient and unfortunately extinct Semitic language – not to be confused with the other Semitic language, Arabic) *In doubt? Google search “what language did jesus speak?”
    2) Since Jesus spoke ARAMAIC, how do you say God in ARAMAIC?
    -ANSWER: God in ARAMAIC is Allah *Dont believe me? Google search “how do you say God in Aramaic?”
    3) Since Christians still live in the middle east, where Arabic is now spoken – what word do they use for God?
    -ANSWER: They use Allah – the Arabic word for God. Meaning, Arabic-speakers from all faiths (including the Abrahamic faiths of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) say Allah when referring to God

    LETS CONNECT THE DOTS.
    ***Since Jesus called God – Allah, And Muhammed called God – Allah, they both referred to the same One God.
    ***In-fact beginning with Adam and throughout the evolution of mankind, God sent a prophet to every nation.
    ” To every nation We sent a Messenger who told its people, “Worship God and stay away from satan.”
    (Quran 16:36).
    ***As man evolved, prophets were sent with commandments (testaments) best suited for their time period – hence the many world religions. For example, Moses was given the Torah (the Old Testament – Judaism). Jesus continued with the Bible (The New Testament – Christianity). Muhammed ended with the Quran (THE LAST/FINAL TESTAMENT – Islam)
    Chapter 3, Verse 84 of the Quran tells mankind: “Say, “We have believed in Allah (The God) and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in
    what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [one who accepts God].”
    ***Since the Quran is the Final Testament – it is the comprehensive completion of God’s commandments – a guidance for all humanity. In other words, Muhammed is the last and final messenger – the seal of prophethood.
    ***You may be surprised that Jesus Christ’s name is mentioned more than Muhammed in the Quran. In-fact 25 prophets are mentioned including Noah, Adam, Abraham, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, etc. And if you have any doubt in the divine origin of the Quran simply google “Scientific Miracles of the Quran.” Or pause for a second and consider that unlike any other historical texts (such as the Bible) which have changed over time – the Quran is still preserved in its original version (from 1438 years ago).
    Still doubting the Quran’s miraculous divinity? Then Google search “the most memorized book in the world”. And ponder on the fact that even though the Holy Quran is more than 6000+ verses long, it is the most memorized book in the world (people can recite it by heart from cover to cover). Go to http://WWW.Quran.COM and listen to it for yourself and may God guide you in understanding why this is the Final Testament for all of mankind.

    STILL HAVE DOUBTS? ITS NORMAL TO QUESTION. I DID TOO.
    ***I used to wonder why didn’t God just send the Final Testament (Quran) from the beginning? I’ll give you an analogy to something we’ve all used, the IPod – and how it too, just like religion, has changed and evolved over time. The IPod started in black/white, gained color, transformed to touch, and evolved into its final form which we know of as the IPhone (this final version can do everything the old ones can, but some choose not to upgrade – they stick to their version/scripture). So why not just reveal the IPhone (hence the final scripture) from the beginning? Because you can’t expect our oldest ancestors – cavemen, to know how to use a touch screen – they lack the foundations/knowledge from how to use the older models. Hence, the old scriptures had to come first because God had to guide mankind according to the relevances of that time period. As man evolved, new scriptures/versions were released – each customized for that era but always upgraded on the basic foundation of worshiping The One God.

    SO WHAT’S OUR PURPOSE AS HUMANS?
    ***Our purpose is to be “readmitted” back into heaven by doing good deeds and staying away from sin
    * To understand this, you have to know the story of Adam and Eve and how their expulsion from Heaven started mankind’s existence on earth. Their removal had a purpose – to test if man would use his free-will to follow God’s commandments and resist Satan’s sinful temptations

    SO NOW THINK LOGICALLY:
    **If the propaganda you see in the media was a true representation of the faith of 1 in 4 people (~23% of the world’s population) then why is Islam STILL the world’s fastest growing religion?
    **Islam is a complete system of living at peace with the environment, with one’s self, and with one another. The word Islam literally means “being at peace with God.”

    I apologize for the long essay – as you are my fellow brother/sister in humanity, my intention is to guide you, as I too, at one point used to be unguided. I hope this explanation brings you peace. May God bless you – and all my fellow brothers and sisters of humanity

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  46. Abdul Hakeem says:

    This is the most ignorance and the most dumb article I have read so far…..Someone somewhere is ignoring all the truth in the Qur’an and translating negatively the truths just to make people become a disbeliever like him and some of these people also putting up comments that jeopardize people’s believe in the almighty God whom has given us life and whom we all owe praises….Both Isa (Jesus) (A.S) & Mohamment (S.A.W) are prophets of almighty Allah (God) and they all sent down to come and diliver the message of Allah, AL’QURAN is the Holy book which contains every warnings against sin, quidiance against evils & revelations of everything happening in the world right now and what is still going to happen sooner and later…AL’QURAN tells us a lot about people like you whom will try to mislead the believes and it also tells us many more about how people will be laughing and mocking the believers in the future. Fear Allah (God) & ALWAYS remember death for you are sleeping and waking with his will, I know some will still say there’s no life after death but Honestly people who say such will suffer and burn in hell….We still have time now to repent and believe in Allah (SWT), we don’t have to wait till it’s too late, everything happening this days that seem to be normal, AL’QURAN tells us about them all before they started happening and the worse it yet to come, you don’t have to witness it before you believe it. Allah (SWT) says in the Quran that Days are coming when there will be no more stars in the sky, Sun will rise from the west after which the doors of the forgiveness is closed, each and every writing in every Qur’an will vanish, Dajjal with one eye will arrive and Tell everyone he is God which most people are already worshiping and ready for his arrival, days when people will be disappearing, Descending of prophet Isa (Jesus) (A.S), The Dab’bat al-Ard will emerge from the ground &I will mark all the true Muslims, 40 days of fog that will kill all the true believers so they do not have to experience other signs, a huge fire will cause distractions, Allah (s.w.t) has also said in the Qur’an that a baby just like dajjal will be born in israel and that this is a sign of the day of judgement. Truly the baby is born in Israel, could you imagine Qur’an said this many centuries ago and not just after the baby was born. It has also said in the Qur’an that israel will take over palestine. Allah (s.w.t) has said in the Qur’an that these are some of the signs before the day of judgement. So brothers & sisters please start changing yourself, start praying. You never know when the day of judgment will take place. Allah has told us everything, he has reveled everything that is going to happen….we don have to wait until it’s too late. We all need to stop being ignorants and seek forgiveness, forgiveness, forgiveness. May Almighty Allah forgive each and everyone of us and count us among the successfuls on the day of the Qiyamah. Ameen.

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  47. abdulateef olushola says:

    It is a known fact that God is very kind to all human being to have given us conscience we all know what is good or bad Jesus said it better to be a servant to only one lord than to many it is also the message in the Glorious Qur’an he Jesus said he is a slave of God in many instances in the Bible even the mother said she is a maid servant of God in the Gospel. Jesus said I have come to the world to do Gods will even his prayer always is that thy will be done on earth as it is heaven the angels are always submitting to God but we humans were being given the choice either to submit willingly like the Prophets who are our guides (not God) or to refuse so that any body that refuses to submit will blame he/herself in the hereafter. Pls.note everything God created is for we human beings so that we should be grateful and worship God by following the example of the prophets Jesus , Muhammad etc. and if we do this we shall be in Paradise with the angels John17:3 etc but if we do not submit willingly we have taken the choice to be with the devil in hell fire fore ever May Allah the only true God forgive us and save us from eternal damnation Ameen.

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  48. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    WHY THE BIBLE CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD
    I. IT CONTAINS INCEST
    BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
    (a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “The next day the older daughter said to her sister, l slept with him last night: now let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. “So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “In this way both of Lot’s daughters became PREGNANT by their father.” GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the “Good News Bible in Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.”
    INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:
    (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. ” GENESIS 35:22.The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.
    INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:
    (c) “When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) “She said what will you give me?” (To have sex with me). “He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK. “She said, “All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat. N “. . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant.” GENESIS 38:15-I8 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”)
    Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ. See MATTHEW 1:3 “And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . .”
    INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN BROTHER AND SISTER:
    (d) “. . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not to be confused with Thamar in “c” above), and said unto her, Come lie with me (have sex with me), my sister. 2 Samuel 13:11 “And she answered him, Nay, my brother (Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God’s own heart), do not force me . . .” 2 Samuel 13:12 “But he would not listen to her; and since he was stronger than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister).” 2 Samuel 13:14
    WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS!
    (e) “So they set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof, and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his father’s concubines .” 2 SAMUEL 16:22
    (f) For other various types of incest see LEVITICUS 18:8-18, 20:11- 14 and 17-21. 1. “Concubine” is synonymous

    2. IT ALSO CONTAINS ABSURDITIES
    (a) A TALKING ass. NUMBERS 22:27-28
    (b) FOUR footed fowls. LEVITICUS 11:20
    (c) Birth of females a DOUBLE pollution. LEVITICUS 12:1,2,5
    (d) Shamgar KILLS 600 with an ox goad. JUDGES 3:31
    (e) Samson KILLS A THOUSAND with the jaw bone of a donkey. JUDGES 15:15-16
    (f) A SEVEN HEADED leopard. REVELATION 13:1-2
    (g) To eat SHIT and drink PISS. 2 KINGS 18:27 and ISAIAH 36:12
    (h) DUNG on your faces. MALACHI 2:3
    (i) To eat cake with SHIT. EZEKIEL 4:12-15
    (j) Samson has SEX with a whore in Gaza. JUDGES 16:1
    (k) Ruth COHABITS with Boaz in the barn. RUTH 3:4-15
    (l) David SLEEPS with a young virgin. 1 KINGS 11:1,3
    (m) not existing creatures like unicorn ISAIAH 34:7
    (n) serpents eat dust GENESIS 3:14 and ISAIAH 65:25
    (o) hare is a cud chewer. LEVITICUS 11:6
    (p) ants has no ruler. PROVEB 6:7
    (q) rainbow as GOD;s promise not to destroy the whole world with flood. GENESIS 9:13-17
    (r) light of the moon is its own light. GENESIS 1:16-17
    (s) all plants and fruits (includes poisonous plants) are edible. GENESIS 1:29

    3. IT CONTAINS CONTRADICTIONS
    (a) The “Lord” tempted David . . . 2 SAMUEL 24:1 or “Satan” provoked David . . . 1 CHRONICLES 21:1
    (b) 700 or 7000? “Horsemen” or “Footmen” . . .? 2 SAMUEL 10:18 vs 1 CHRONICLES 19:18
    (c) Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 KINGS 7:26 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 4:5
    (d) Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 CHRONICLES 9:25 vs 1 KINGS 4:26
    (e) Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn’t he? 1 SAMUEL 28:6 vs 1
    CHRONICLES 10:13-14
    (f) Heaven, no man hath ascended JOHN 3:13 Contradicted by: 2 KINGS 2:11 Elijah ascended and GENESIS 5:24 Enoch ascended.
    (g) Jesus lost “None” of his disciples JOHN 18:9 Contradicted by: He lost only “One” JOHN 17:12
    (h) “ALL” are sinners 2 CHRONICLES 6:36 Contradicted by: “Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commit sin . . .” 1 JOHN 3:9
    (i) Was jehoiachin 18 years or 8 years old when he begun to reign? 2 KINGS 24:8 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 36:9
    (j) Did jehoiachin reign for 3 months or 3 moths, 10 days? 2 KINGS 24:8 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 36:9
    (k) Was Aheziah 22 years or 42 years when be begun to reign? 2 KINGS 8:26 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 22:2
    (l) Was it 800000 or 1100000 men of Israel? 2 SAMUEL 24:9 vs. 1 CHRONICLES 21:5
    (m) Was it 500000 or 10450 men of Judah? 2 SAMUEL 24:9 vs. 1 CHRONICLES 21:5
    (n) Did Michal had no children or has 5 sons? 2 SAMUEL 6:23 vs. 2 SAMUEL 21:8
    (o) The genealogy of jesus Christ. MATHEW 1:16 vs. LUKE 3:23
    (p) Are they 200 or 245 singers? EZRA 2:64 vs. NEHEMIAH 7:67

    4. ILL-TREATMENTS OF WOMEN
    1. a woman cause sin to enter the world. [genesis 3]
    2. women are being perceived as evil and hence are placed below men. there fore they are called daughters of men and not daughters of God. [genesis 6]
    3. a woman gets no inheritance if there brothers. [numbers 27:8]
    4. a woman who even inherit cannot marry outside her father’s family.[numbers 36:6-8]
    5. the vow of a woman can be cancelled by either the father [numbers 30:6] or her husband [numbers 30:14]
    6. a woman is guilty until she is proven innocent through
    a. bitter water test for adultery [ numbers 5:11-31]
    b. father’s evident testimony of her virginity [Deuteronomy 22:13-21]
    7. rape of a lady [Deuteronomy 22:28-29]
    8. women are not allowed to speak in public [1 Corinthian 14:34] and [1 timothy 2:11-12]

    5. Qualities ill-befitting God –
    (a) A “hissing” God (?) ISAIAH 5:26, 7:18, ZECHARIAH 10:8
    (b) A “roaring” God (?) ISAIAH 42:13, JEREMIAH 25:30
    (c) A “barber” God (?) ISAIAH 7:20
    (d) A “penitent” God (?) JEREMIAH 15:6, GENESIS 6:6
    (e) A God “riding” a cherub (?) 2 SAMUEL 22:11
    (f) A God murders 50,070 for looking into a box (?) 1

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  49. Jamiu says:

    Azeez nice one.This is to put all christians in the permanent state of shut up. CRUXIFIXION OR CRUXI-FICTION? (loading………).I would prove it to you that Jesus (p.b.u.h) didn’t die using the bible verses. When i read the bible i always come across prophets went in and lay with their wives but sarah is different. Imagine in Genesis 21:1 The lord (GOD) visited sarah as he had said [ i said to myself what? Like the writer of this articles ( jonathan), visited is girlfriend?] and the Lord ( God) did to sarah as he had promised. ( again i said to myself what did Lord did to sarah? This is absolutely nonsense). It continues and sarah conceived. See what they attached to God, May Allah Forgive you all . I’m asking jonathan the writer of this articles, what did you do to make your girlfriend conceived? Bible is not completely word of God. Just 5% of the entire bible contains word of God, The remaining 95% is story of a person narrating his pain story.

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  50. The Christianity Sense says:

    Many Muslims hold to the claim that Christianity is a hoax, filled with misinterpretations and false preachers or “fake pastors” who contradict each other. Frankly speaking, you will never hear of a fake imam who claim to be a devoted Muslim, who still linger in iniquity like you do hear in Christianity that especially on the news concerning some ministers.
    Well, the reason is simple. Throughout my life I have never seen a fake $3 bill why? Thats because there’s no real $3 bill. So it will be stupid to make one. But I guess we’ve all seen a fake or counterfeit $100 bill. This teaches us a lesson. That there’s A REAL $100 BILL. No one kills himself trying to be fake or TRYING TO MANIPULATE WHAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.

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  51. The Christianity Sense says:

    We’ve all been discussing Christianity and Islam, but no one has really spoke on Christianity as it outruns Islam in spiritual matters. Only in Christianity does the blind see (modern day Christianity, not some AD miracles here),the lame walk, demons are cast out of people(I strongly believe Muslims get possessed, but no deliverance) the dead rise back to life(how fake can that be) terminal diseases like AIDS and cancer are averted. You won’t see a pile of lame people sitting around in a corner.
    You might say these healing are fake(even when it happens to me?), but remember, you will always see some fake $100 bill WHY? Because there’s a real $100 bill but never a fake $3 bill WHY.
    I’m Christianity, God is NOT JUST SEEN AS A GOD SITTING ABOVE, but also as a Friend. A Friend you talk to regularly, and also as a Father. Our DAD. This is so real that Jesus even advised we should only call God our Dad. Doing that makes God so real to me.

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  52. The Christianity Sense says:

    I accept to an extent when Muslims don’t accept the new testament because it’s contrary, but I do not accept or find it funny when they do not accept the words of the old testament. Words filled with fulfilled prophecies. Giving better information about Abraham, Moses etc. Filled with the words of PROPHETS and they have just a prophet who I don’t think can even be compared to the greatElijah and Elisha who parted seas, was translated to heaven, not seeing death, who stop rain from falling for 3 and a half years,and brought it back afterward. Because if they do accept these Holy Books, they will discover and learn that the Great king David wrote of when God called the coming messiah “GOD” (psalms 45:6, Hebrews 1:8).
    Secondly, after the scripture said only God can be worshipped, and even an angel warned Saint John the beloved not to worship him put only God, we discovered that angels worshipped Christ(Hebrews 1:6), even the 24 elders and four living creatures in heaven worshiped Him(Rev. 5:8). Even in the old testament, an Angel always claimed to be God, He was even called God by individuals who He appeared to or fought with. Even one of the new testament writers claimed these people saw God. But three times in the Bible do we discover that no one has seen God and no human CAN see the Father (why?), because He’s a SPIRIT. But only His body can be SEEN-CHRIST why? Because anyone who has seen Me has seen My Father.
    The Bible says we are gods, and Jesus even quoted this Scripture when He was questioned about His claimed deity. The Bible also says though we are gods, some will die like mere men. We Christians follow a leader that walked on water, rose the dead and did a lot of miracles, and yet still told us that we would do even greater works than what He did. He also told us that these signs shall follow them that believe, and claim this free gift, that in His name alone we will cast out demon, heal the sick, raise the dead. All these things mine left me, WHAT DID YOURS LEAVE YOU WITH. EVEN A PROMISE OF COMING BACK AGAIN WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE. BUT EVEN YOURS CLAIM MINE WILL COME BACK AGAIN.
    Read the words of Jesus from Matthew 5,you’ll see how great a teacher He is.

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      what about this statement which is found in the new testament
      women are not allowed to speak in public [1 Corinthian 14:34] and [1 timothy 2:11-12]

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  53. Francis Nyerho says:

    Even if you do not accept the Christians, can’t you just accept that Jesus is a far more better prophet than Muhammed. Even Muhammad claimed He is. One that brings objects to life is far greater than one who doesn’t, One that spoke while still a baby is far greater than one who didn’t. Yours even claim Mine is the Word of God, yet you claim He is not God. You might say-“how can my word be me”, but I say-“how can your word NOT be you.
    Your word is the expression of your thoughts, opinions, ideas, feelings. Your word defines you. Relating to humans, we might say how words do not totally define us because we sometimes lie. But God can never lie. Do you know Jesus is never referred to as Jesus in heaven, but all call Him the word of God up there.
    God’s opinion is Jesus, His ideas, thoughts, feelings is Jesus. So no wonder Jesus said “all I know, the Father revealed it to me”. He was speaking directly from God’s knowledge. So why don’t we take His teachings as the best teachings ever. Read the Bible about all the times Jesus was attacked with word, watch what He always said. War and violence can never be a solution. Jesus used just His words to counter all. When His disciple took off the ear of one of the soldier who came to arrest Him, He picked the ear and placed it right where it belonged. LOVE. THIS MUHAMMED WILL NEVER DO FOR THE MAN WHO WANTS TO ARREST HIM.
    In Islam, Allah says “tell your sons to die for me”, but in Christianity, God told His Son to die for (not the Christians alone) all sinner.

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      look FRANCIS NYERHO,
      I do not argue blinding. i supported all my arguement with facts and evidence from your own books. If you want to prove me wrong, then bring me evidential quotation from an authentic sources but not given insults and indicating who is better than the other. be civilized

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  54. The Christianity sense says:

    Pls note that the promise was only given to Abraham through Jacob’s seed. Ishmael didn’t inherit the promise,and we Christians are only liable to go to paradise because some of Jacob’s seed fell to the ground through disobedience and sin. We being on the ground already, through accepting Christ start growing together with the olive tree. Something contrary to nature. Apostles Paul’s theory.

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  55. Joe says:

    In other words, we know exactly what the bible said during the commencement and launch of the Islamic religion:

    The Chester Beatty Papyrus II: AD 100.
    The John Rylands Manuscript: AD 130.
    The Codex Vaticanus: AD 325- 350.
    The Codex Sinaiticus: AD 375-400.
    The Codex Washingtonianus: AD 450.
    Since we know the Bible was not corrupted by referring to these ancient documents and papyri, we see that Islam is proven to be locked into a grave dilemma. If the bible was corrupted, then the Quran is false because it affirms its inerrancy and inspiration. But if the bible was NOT corrupted, the Quran STILL remains false because it blatantly contradicts the biblical narrative on virtually every significant point.

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  56. Joe says:

    1) The Quran affirms that the Bible is the word of God.

    Yes. You read that correctly. When one begins to examine the Quranic narrative, he or she will quickly come to discover that the Quran affirms the bible’s divine inspiration and inerrancy. Many Muslims, however, assert that such passages are referring to the “REAL” bible.

    In other words, prior to its supposed corruption. Yet when we read the following verses, it becomes blatantly clear that “Allah” and his prophet considered the bible to be uncorrupted and inspired DURING THE TIME OF MUHAMMAD:

    Surah 5:43: “But why do they come to thee for decision, WHEN THEY HAVE (THEIR OWN) TORAH BEFORE THEM? – THEREIN IS THE (PLAIN) COMMAND OF ALLAH; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith.

    Surah 5:46-47: “And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, CONFIRMING THE TORAH THAT CAME BEFORE HIM: We sent him the Gospel: THEREIN IS GUIDANCE AND LIGHT, and confirmation of the torah that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. LET THE PEOPLE OF THE GOSPEL JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH HATH REVEALED THEREIN. IF ANY DO FAIL TO JUDGE BY (THE LIGHT OF) WHAT ALLAH HATH REVEALED, THEY ARE (NO BETTER THAN) THOSE WHO REBEL.”

    Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38 (Kitab al Hudud, i.e. Prescribed Punishments), Number 4434: Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar: A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. HE THEN WITHDREW THE CUSHION FROM BENEATH HIM AND PLACED THE TORAH ON IT SAYING: I BELIEVED IN THEE AND IN HIM WHO REVEALED THEE.

    Here are some things to note:

    In surah 5:43, the Jews HAVE the Torah (Present tense). THEREIN IS Allah’s command.
    In surah 5:46-47 it writes THEREIN IS GUIDANCE. Furthermore, Allah instructs us to JUDGE (Present tense) by the gospel.
    Muhammad considered the Torah that existed in HIS time to be the word of God.
    Now in light of the Islamic evidence, a segment of the Muslim community have conjured up a theory that the bible was corrupted AFTER Muhammad’s time. This is simply impossible, seeing as we have manuscripts of the bible which date back prior to and during Muhammad’s time.
    In other words, we know exactly what the bible said during the commencement and launch of the Islamic religion:

    The Chester Beatty Papyrus II: AD 100.
    The John Rylands Manuscript: AD 130.
    The Codex Vaticanus: AD 325- 350.
    The Codex Sinaiticus: AD 375-400.
    The Codex Washingtonianus: AD 450.
    Since we know the Bible was not corrupted by referring to these ancient documents and papyri, we see that Islam is proven to be locked into a grave dilemma. If the bible was corrupted, then the Quran is false because it affirms its inerrancy and inspiration. But if the bible was NOT corrupted, the Quran STILL remains false because it blatantly contradicts the biblical narrative on virtually every significant point.

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  57. Joe says:

    2) Scientific inaccuracies

    Sperm:

    The Qur’an states, incorrectly, that semen originates from a spot between the backbone and the ribs, Surah 86:6-7. However, science has demonstrated that sperm comes from the testicles whilst semen issues from different glands behind and below our bladder.

    Flat earth:

    The Quran is laden with verses which hint towards the impression of a “flat” earth. Surah 13:3, 15:19, 50:7, 51:48, 71:19, 20:53 and many more write that the earth is “spread out”, “Laid out”, or “like a carpet”. Yet due to modern scientific discovery we know that the earth is actually in the shape of a circular sphere.

    Just to further elaborate on this point, ever notice how the Islamic Salat indirectly hints at the idea of a flat earth? Muslims all around the world are instructed to pray towards the Kabba 5 times a day. This would only make sense if we lived on a flat earth. If, however, Islam endorsed the belief in a spherical planet, we would get the following dilemma.

    All things were made in pairs:

    Within the Quran, surah 51:49, it writes that all THINGS were created in pairs. Yet, today we know of something called Asexual reproduction. Asexual reproduction is a type of reproduction by which offsprings arise from a single organism. It serves as the chief means by which single celled organisms are formed. Such examples include the Archaea, bacteria, various plants and fungi.

    Shooting stars are missiles to drive out demons:

    The Qur’an teaches that stars are fires set up in the sky to guard Heaven against demons. The demons want to hear what God is saying so they try to sneak up to heaven. If they are found, the guardians of heaven will hurl stars at them to chase them off: 15:16-18, 37:6-10, 67:5 and 72:8-9.

    The dilemma, however, is that the Quran is confusing “stars” with “shooting stars”. Stars, as we know, are actually suns. Shooting stars on the other hand, are meteorites, or galactic debris. If we are to take the Quran seriously, then each time we see a “shooting star” we are to assume that it is actually a sun that is blasting across the sky in the pursue of a demon.

    The sun settles in a muddy spring:

    In surah 18:86, the Quran describes the sun as setting into a muddy spring. Yet we know due to modern scientific discovery that the setting of the sun is caused by the circular and rotational properties of our planet. There exists no place where the sun physically “sets”.

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      please the Qur’an is not in English but it is an Arabic text so please provide the Arabic quotation and stop mistranslating the scripture and being mischievous.

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  58. Joe says:

    3) Historical inaccuracies

    Samaria:

    In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read about the story of the Prophet Moses and the Israelite rebellion in their worship of the golden calf. The interesting thing within this passage, is that a SAMARITAN was accused of leading the people of Allah astray.

    The story of Moses and the golden calf is dated to have occurred around 1400 BC. Yet the Samaritans did NOT exist until 530 years AFTER Moses. Samaria was founded by King Omri during the year 870 BC. The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C.

    So the question arises: How could a Samaritan lead the people of Moses astray when Samaritans did not exist during the time of Moses?

    Crucifixion:

    According to Surah 12:41, the Quran writes that during the time of Joseph (in the Old Testament), death by crucifixion was actually something that existed and was being performed. Not only that, but the Quran writes in Surah 7:124, 26:49 and 20:71 that Pharaoh threatened the magicians who believed in Moses with crucifixion.

    The major problem with these statements from the Qur’an is that there is no archeological or historical evidence that the Egyptians used crucifixion as a form of punishment in the time of Joseph, or in the time of Moses. Crucifixion only becomes a punishment much later in history.

    Alexander the great:

    In surah 18:83-98 we read about a man named Dhul-Qarnayn. Now, it is VERY rare to find a scholar of the Islamic religion which will not state that this points to Alexander the great. Here are just some of those people: Baydawi, p. 399, al-Jalalan, p. 251, al-Tabari, p. 339, al-Zamakhshari, part 2 of al-Kash-shaf, p. 743.

    The problem, however, is that the Quran describes Alexander as being a “righteous and God fearing man”. That Allah is the one whom guided him and that he lead people into the fold of the Islamic faith.

    However, when we even do a little research on the true and historical Alexander, we see that he was an idolater, claiming to be the son of the Egyptian God Amun. Very few would even consider him to be even remotely close to a righteous human being.

    Mary, the Quranic confusion:

    According to answeringIslam.org,

    In many places, the Qur’an mentions Mary as the sister of Moses and Aaron and the daughter of Imran. The Qur’an has confused Jesus’ mother with Aaron’s sister because both of them carry the same name, though there are several centuries between them.

    The Qur’an indicates that Mary (Christ’s mother) had a brother whose name was Aaron (chapter 19:28) and a father whose name is Imran (chapter 66:12). Their mother was called “the wife of Imran” (chapter 3:35) which eliminates any doubt that it confuses Mary, mother of Jesus, with Mary, sister of Aaron.

    The gospel of Jesus Christ:

    In surah 4:157, the Quran unashamedly tells us that Christ was never killed nor crucified. But that it was made to appear so. Rather, Allah raised Christ unto himself. The traditional interpretation of this verse is that Allah replaced Jesus with Judas on the cross, hence ANY historical substantiation of this event would fall short on disproving the Islamic position, for they do not doubt that the crucifixion took place, but that it was Judas who took on Christ’s form.

    Yet when we look to the historical record, we see that it too, also successfully dismantles this elucidation, because 10 out of the 12 apostles were martyred for believing in the MURDER and RESSURECTION of Jesus. History shows that that they firmly believed that it was Jesus himself who was murdered raised from the dead.

    In The Historical Jesus: Lecture Transcript and Course Guidebook, 2000, Ehrman says:

    “ONE OF THE MOST CERTAIN FACTS OF HISTORY IS THAT JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED ON ORDERS OF THE ROMAN PREFECT OF JUDEA, PONTIUS PILATE”. (P. 162)

    Atheist Professor of Early Christianity and the University of Gottinggen Gerd Ludemann says:

    “JESUS’ DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE OF CRUCIFIXION IS INDISPUTABLE”. IN THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST: A HISTORICAL INQUIRY, 2004, P 50

    We have at least 11 sources for the crucifixion of Jesus: Pre-Mark Passion Narrative, Q, John, Paul, Hebrews, 1 Peter 2:24, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Martyr, Josephus Flavius, & Cornelius Tacitus. Pre-Mark and Q are very early dating to within years of the actual crucifixion.

    Other less valuable sources such as Lucian, Mesa Bar Serapion (depends on dating), Thallus and the Talmud all affirm a constant tradition of Jesus’ crucifixion.

    If this was really Judas on the cross, then surely they would have been aware. SURELY they would not have been willing to die for something they knew was false. So again, if we take the above mentioned interpretation into account, Islam is left with the following 2 problems:

    If it was really Judas on the cross, then Islam is immediately contradicted by the historical sources that tell us Jesus was crucified and all those who knew him believed and died for the belief that he was crucified.
    If Allah transformed Judas into Jesus, then the corruption of Islam, which eventually gave birth to Christianity, is Allah’s fault. For he is responsible for deceiving the masses, only to amend it hundreds of years later.
    Now there does exist other interpretations such as “Christ did not die, but he merely fainted”. Yet all still manage to fail when brought under scrutiny of what history has to say concerning the crucifixion of Jesus.

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  59. Jamiu says:

    Joe, big shame on you, this is how you can interprete the quran? You know nothing. Quran talks abou the fact that has been established not theory and hypothesis. Scientifically hypothesis or theory changes but fact remains. If you want to know quran in light of modern science kindly read dr naik zakir books. In brief in light of ASTRONOMY read quran 21:33 EXPANSION OF UNIVERSE read quran 51:47, WATER CYCLE read quran 86:11, GEOLOGY quran 78:6-7, ROUNDNESS OF EARTH quran 39:5,31:29, 22:61, EMBRYOLOGY, THE BIG BANG, OCEONOLOGY,THE FEMALE HONEY BEE, THE WEIGHT OF THE CLOUD, THE STAR THAT KNOCK ETC. YOUR HOLY BIBLE FAILED ALL IN LIGHT OF SCIENCE. Just go and watch DEBATE BETWEEN DR CAMBELL AND DR NAIK OR Google search QURAN COMPATIBLE OR INCOMPATIBLE WITH MODERN SCIENCE BY DR ZAKIR NAIK. JOE YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE in the light of science.

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    • Gaman L says:

      It is the twisted quran that failed. Not the Bible. Has been proven time and time again but muslims cannot accept defeat. One liner verse from the Bible are your favorite, something that sounded almost (but far) supporting your so called truth in science also a good hit to prove your so called word of allah in quran. Zakar naik is a one liner idiot, why waste time on this goat humper. Nothing about the way of life of an ancient sand terrorist appeal or impressed me.

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me . 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”
        .
        REALLY ????

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  60. Jamiu says:

    @JESSE ignorance is a big disease, YOUR HELL FIRE IS WITH YOUR SON. Even when jesus (p.b.u.h) in your bible says in MATTHEW 10:34 that Do not think that i came to bring peace on earth, i did not come to bring peace but a sword. LUKE 22: 36 then he said to them, but now he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack and who has no sword, let him sel l his garment and buy one.. LUKE 19:27 says but as for the enemies of mine , who did not want me to reign over them bring them here and slaughter them before me. LUKE 12:49 I have come to cast fire upon the earth and how i wish it were already kindled. MATTHEW 10:35 for i have come to set man against is father, a daughter against her mother and a daughter in law against her mother in law.

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    • Gaman L says:

      When did Jesus ever hold a sword? You failed to understand the true meaning of those words and you proudly quote them and think you are victorious in this arguement? Study the Bible more Janiu.. Jesus never swung a sword in anger but I know muhammad did.. in anger and in lust

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  61. Hamza Awwaab says:

    All the other 3 books revealed to the prophets are also the word of Allah. Only because people molded the the religion and the teachings of the Book, Allah revealed 3 more sacred books to His prophets. I know u will make it the point that if the other 3 were Allah”s word(in which there is no doubt) then why people were able to mold them. The answer is it was the Hikmat or in other wrds wisdom of Allah Almighty. If those religious scriptures or the first one was still in pure form; there would not have been any need to send down more sacred scriptures or any Prophet. if that happened Muhammad(PBUH) would not have come to this world. And If quraan isn’t the word of Allah then why is it in its pure form. even the Jews and Christian scholars agree that this book as they say whatever it is, it s in the pure form. Moreover, You see that day after day the facts described in the quraan are discovered and proved right by science. Some years ago scientist believed that life exists only on earth. But now they say that no life is present on other planets too. And so is said in the Quraan almost 1400 years ago! I would not say more. May Allah give you guidance and if you are not worth it, May Allah’s inescapable wrath be upon u.

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    • Gaman L says:

      No Christian or Jews ever said that the quran is pure. Why you muslims always like to quote fake fantasy words? No qoute on this needed as you youself know its the truth.

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  62. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    SCIENTIFIC FACTS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN
    1. ASTRONOMY
    • The creation of the universe- the big bang theory [al-anbiya 21:30]
    • There was an initial gaseous mass before the creation of galaxies [fussilat 41:11]
    • Spherical shape of the earth [surah luqman 31:29, az-zumar 39:5 and an-naziat 79:30]
    • The light of the moon is reflected light [surah al-furqan 25:61, yunus 10:5 and nuh 71:15-16]
    • The sun rotates about its own axis [surah al-anbiya 21:33 and ya-sin 36:40]
    • The sun will extinguish after a certain period [surah ya-sin 36:38]
    • The present of interstellar matter [surah al-furqan 25:29, ar-rad 13:2, al-furqan 25:13, az-zumar 39:5 and az-zumar 39:21, ]
    • The expanding universe [surah adh-dhariyat 51:47]

    2. PHYSICS
    • The existence of sub-atomic particles [surah saba 34:3 and yunus 10:61]

    3. GEOGRAPHY
    • Water cycle [surah az-zumar 39:21, ar-rum 30:24, al-muminun 23:18, al-imran 3:9, al-araf 7:5, ar-rad 13:17, al-furqan 25:48-49, ya-sin 36:34, qaf 50:9-11, al-waqiah 56:68-70, al-mulk 67:30 and at-tariq 86:11]
    • Winds impregnate the clouds [surah al-hijir 15:22 and ar-rum 30:48]

    4. GEOLOGY
    • Mountains are like pegs (stakes) [surah an-naba 78:6-7 and surah al-anbiya 21:31]
    • Mountains firmly fixed [surah an-naziat 79:32, al-ghashiyah 88:19, luqman 31:10 and an-nahl 16:15]

    5. OCEANOLOGY
    • Barriers between sweat and salt waters [surah ar-rahman 55:19-20, an-naml 27:61 and al-furqan 25:53]
    • Darkness in the depths of the ocean [surah an-nur 24:40]

    6. BIOLOGY
    • Every living things is made of water [surah al-anbiya 21:30 and al-furqan 25:54]

    7. BOTANY
    • Plants created in pairs- male and female [surah ta-ha 20:53]
    • Fruits created in pairs- male and female [surah ar-rad 13:3]
    • Every things made in pairs [surah adh-dhariyat 51:49, ya-sin 36:36]
    • Human beings created from sulalah (Quintessence of liquid) [surah as-sajdah 32:8]
    • Man created from nutfatun amshaaj (mingled liquids) [surah al-insan 76:2]
    • Sex determination- the male sperm [surah an-najm 53:45-46]
    • Foetus protected by three veils of darkness [surah az-umar 39:6]
    • Embryonic stages [surah al-muminun 23:12, al-qiyamah 75:37-39 and al-infitar 82:7-8]
    • Embryo partly formed and partly unformed [surah al-hajj 22:5]
    • Un bone baby’s sense of hearing and sight [surah as-sajdah 32:9, al-insan 76:2 and al-muminun 23:78]

    8. EMBRYOLOGY
    • Man is created from ALAQ, ALEECH-LIKE substance [surah an-nahl 16:43, al-anbiya 21:7 and al-alaq 96:1-2]
    • Man created from a drop emitted from between the back bone (male sperm) and the ribs (the female emit) [surah al-tariq 6:5-7]
    • Man created from NUTFAH (minute quantity of liquid- sperm) [surah al-hajj 22:5, al-muminun 23:13, an-nahl 16:4, al-kahf 18:37, fatir 35:11, ya-sin 36:77, ghafir 40:67, an-najm 53:46, al-qiyamah 75:37, al-insan 76:2 and abasa 80:19]

    9. MEDICINE
    • Honey has healing properties [surah an-nahl 16:69]

    10. PHYSIOLOGY
    • Blood circulation and the production of milk [surah an-nahl 16:66 and al-muminun 23:21]

    11. ZOOLOGY
    • Animals and birds live in communities [surah al-anam 6:38]
    • Flight of birds [surah an-nahl 16:79 and al-mulk 67:19]
    • The bee (bee dance) [surah an-nahl 16:68-69]
    • Spider’s web-home is fragile [surah al-ankabut 29:41]
    • Life style and communities of ants [surah an-naml 27:17-18]

    12. GENERAL SCIENCE
    • Finger print [surah al-qiyamah 75:3-4]
    • Pain receptors present in the skin [surah an-nisa 4:56]
    • Iron sent down [surah al-hadid 57:25]
    • Sky’s protection of the earth [surah anbiya 21:32]

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  63. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    SCIENTIFIC ERRORS IN THE BIBLE
    1. Creation of the universe is in 24 hours in 6 days [genesis 1:1]
    2. Light came before its source (sun)
     Light created on the first day [genesis 1:3-5]
     The source of light (sun) created on the fourth day [genesis 1:14-19]
    3. Day came into existence before the earth
     Day was created on the first day [genesis 1:3-5]
     Earth was created on the third day [genesis 1:9-13]
    4. Earth came into existence before the sun
     Earth created on the third day [genesis 1:9-13]
     Sun was created on the fourth day [genesis 1:14-19]
    5. Vegetation came into existence before sunlight
     Vegetation created on the third day [genesis 1:11-13]
     Sunlight created on the fourth day [genesis 1:14-19]
    6. Light of the moon is its own light [genesis 1:16-17]
    7. Earth has pillars [1 Samuel 2:8, job 9:6 and psalm 75:3]
    8. Heavens have pillars [job 28:11]
    9. All plants and fruits (including poisonous) are edible [genesis 1:29]
    10. Falsification or confirmation test for a true Christian believer [mark 16:17-18]
    11. Women unclean for double the period when she gives birth to a daughter as compare to a son [Leviticus 12:1-5]
    12. Using blood as disinfectant [Leviticus 14:41-53]
    13. Bitter water test for adultery [numbers 5:11-31]
    14. Rainbow as god’s promise never to destroy the world with flood [genesis 9:13-17]
    15. Women have seamen or give out seeds [Leviticus 12:1-2]
    16. Hare is a cud chewer [Leviticus 11:6]
    17. Ants has no ruler [proverb 6:7]
    18. Serpent eat dust [genesis 3:14 and isaiah 65:25]
    19. Fowl or insects have four (4) feats [leviticus 11:20]
    20. Un existing creatures- unicorn [Isaiah 34:7]
    21. Full world was submerged by water [genesis 7:19-20]
    22. How could pair of species of all creatures accommodated in a ship? [genesis 6:15-16]
    23. Shape of the earth is flat [Mathew 4:8, luke 4:5 and Daniel 4:10-11]
    24. Earth does not move [1 chronicles 16:30 and psalm 93:1]
    25. Son being 2 years older than his father [2 chronicles 21:20]
    26. Men are created from milk and curdled like cheese [job 10:9-11]

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  64. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    SCIENTIFIC FACTS OF THE QURAN
    1. ASTRONOMY
    • The creation of the universe- the big bang theory [al-anbiya 21:30]
    • There was an initial gaseous mass before the creation of galaxies [fussilat 41:11]
    • Spherical shape of the earth [surah luqman 31:29, az-zumar 39:5 and an-naziat 79:30]
    • The light of the moon is reflected light [surah al-furqan 25:61, yunus 10:5 and nuh 71:15-16]
    • The sun rotates about its own axis [surah al-anbiya 21:33 and ya-sin 36:40]
    • The sun will extinguish after a certain period [surah ya-sin 36:38]
    • The present of interstellar matter [surah al-furqan 25:29, ar-rad 13:2, al-furqan 25:13, az-zumar 39:5 and az-zumar 39:21, ]
    • The expanding universe [surah adh-dhariyat 51:47]

    2. PHYSICS
    • The existence of sub-atomic particles [surah saba 34:3 and yunus 10:61]

    3. GEOGRAPHY
    • Water cycle [surah az-zumar 39:21, ar-rum 30:24, al-muminun 23:18, al-imran 3:9, al-araf 7:5, ar-rad 13:17, al-furqan 25:48-49, ya-sin 36:34, qaf 50:9-11, al-waqiah 56:68-70, al-mulk 67:30 and at-tariq 86:11]
    • Winds impregnate the clouds [surah al-hijir 15:22 and ar-rum 30:48]

    4. GEOLOGY
    • Mountains are like pegs (stakes) [surah an-naba 78:6-7 and surah al-anbiya 21:31]
    • Mountains firmly fixed [surah an-naziat 79:32, al-ghashiyah 88:19, luqman 31:10 and an-nahl 16:15]

    5. OCEANOLOGY
    • Barriers between sweat and salt waters [surah ar-rahman 55:19-20, an-naml 27:61 and al-furqan 25:53]
    • Darkness in the depths of the ocean [surah an-nur 24:40]

    6. BIOLOGY
    • Every living things is made of water [surah al-anbiya 21:30 and al-furqan 25:54]

    7. BOTANY
    • Plants created in pairs- male and female [surah ta-ha 20:53]
    • Fruits created in pairs- male and female [surah ar-rad 13:3]
    • Every things made in pairs [surah adh-dhariyat 51:49, ya-sin 36:36]
    • Human beings created from sulalah (Quintessence of liquid) [surah as-sajdah 32:8]
    • Man created from nutfatun amshaaj (mingled liquids) [surah al-insan 76:2]
    • Sex determination- the male sperm [surah an-najm 53:45-46]
    • Foetus protected by three veils of darkness [surah az-umar 39:6]
    • Embryonic stages [surah al-muminun 23:12, al-qiyamah 75:37-39 and al-infitar 82:7-8]
    • Embryo partly formed and partly unformed [surah al-hajj 22:5]
    • Un bone baby’s sense of hearing and sight [surah as-sajdah 32:9, al-insan 76:2 and al-muminun 23:78]

    8. EMBRYOLOGY
    • Man is created from ALAQ, ALEECH-LIKE substance [surah an-nahl 16:43, al-anbiya 21:7 and al-alaq 96:1-2]
    • Man created from a drop emitted from between the back bone (male sperm) and the ribs (the female emit) [surah al-tariq 6:5-7]
    • Man created from NUTFAH (minute quantity of liquid- sperm) [surah al-hajj 22:5, al-muminun 23:13, an-nahl 16:4, al-kahf 18:37, fatir 35:11, ya-sin 36:77, ghafir 40:67, an-najm 53:46, al-qiyamah 75:37, al-insan 76:2 and abasa 80:19]

    9. MEDICINE
    • Honey has healing properties [surah an-nahl 16:69]

    10. PHYSIOLOGY
    • Blood circulation and the production of milk [surah an-nahl 16:66 and al-muminun 23:21]

    11. ZOOLOGY
    • Animals and birds live in communities [surah al-anam 6:38]
    • Flight of birds [surah an-nahl 16:79 and al-mulk 67:19]
    • The bee (bee dance) [surah an-nahl 16:68-69]
    • Spider’s web-home is fragile [surah al-ankabut 29:41]
    • Life style and communities of ants [surah an-naml 27:17-18]

    12. GENERAL SCIENCE
    • Finger print [surah al-qiyamah 75:3-4]
    • Pain receptors present in the skin [surah an-nisa 4:56]
    • Iron sent down [surah al-hadid 57:25]
    • Sky’s protection of the earth [surah anbiya 21:32]

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  65. Mark Barton says:

    Islam is the antithesis of the followers of Yeshua. Muslims seek the Antichrist of the bible if the teaching of the koran and hadith are understood, not to mention his messenger is a detestable, insane, pedophilic, and murderous madman. Islam is evil in its purest form and worship satan himself. Come out of the madness that is Islam. Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Yeshua is the messiah and be saved, you are damned otherwise. There is only one way to be saved, salvation is his very name and his name means salvation, Yeshua is His name. Silver and gold I have not, but what I do have I offer Yeshua , Him crucified.

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      MARK BARTON,
      DO u know the meaning of the arabic word ‘islam’? i guess yo don’t. ‘ISLAM’ contains the four things ” sincerity, surrender, obedient, submission and peace’ of will of the creator. the word ‘muslim’ means a person who acquire peace by submitting his or her a person who acquire peace by submitting his or her will to the creatorwill to the creator. ISLAM is the only non-christian faith thsincerity, surrender, obedient, submission and peace at makes it an obligation for the followers to believe in JESUS CHRIST. no muslim is a muslim if he does not believe in JESUS CHRIST. we believe in His miraculous birth (which many modern day christians do not believe). we believe that he gave live to the death with God’s permission. we believe that we heal those born blind. we the muslims and the christians based on these, are going together. the only difference is that, we say and believe that, JESUS CHRIST is not God almighty himself, he is not God incarnate or the begotten (through sexual relation) son of God. And that he was not crucified nor resurrected. if not further prove involving reference from logic, quran or the bible, i am ready to so.
      Now, let me ask u questions concerning what u have stated.
      Do u what to tell us that
      1. ” Islam (sincerity, surrender, obedient, submission and peace) is the antithesis of the followers of Yeshua?
      2. Muslims (a person who acquire peace by submitting his or her will to the creator) seek the Antichrist of the bible?
      3. muslims Confess with our mouth and believe in your heart that Yeshua is the messiah?
      4. have u studied islam at all?
      5. have u taken the pain to study the Quran and the Hadith?
      if not why are u spreading these unguided, uncultured, uncivilized and misconceptions to the public?

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    • Mohamed says:

      Before throwing ur comments did you read the Quran or hadeath I don’t think you did so coz if u did because you didn’t even prove ur statement give me a prove Muslims do believe Jesus god bless his soul will be back to kill the antichrist and guess what would he be doing next he will be praying with the Muslim coz Jesus just like the prophet before him had the same massage of mohamed go bless his soul yet ur denial only push you further from the truth that u don’t wanna believe in I hope you read the Quran and hadeath n then comment yet ur too scared to do that and comment with no logical or statement that will prove ur world good thing Islam is not based on what the scholars thinks or had being rewritten according to man like the Bible that had being rewritten ever 100 and so years to have many different bibles that was written according to the author understanding Quran is the word of god n the Quran proves that the Old Testaments r the truth but u can’t compare the Old Testament with the new bible coz the Bible is twisted and if you listen to the Song of Solomon you see the muhamdam is mohamed u got the truth right infront of u yet u prefer being ignorant although Jesus never said I’m god you have to worship me n yet u believe he is Son of god and that’s ur sin by associating Jesus to be son of god while Jesus is just a man who was born in a merical with no father just like Adam was created with no father and mother…

      Sahih International: Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, “Be,” and he was. (59th verse of chapter 3 (sūrat āl ʿim’rān)).

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  66. Jamiu says:

    @Mark Barton your comment is the most ignorance of all. You head the department of ignorance. The muslim here do not for once curse jesus because they believe in him as a prophet of God. The muslim are telling you the fact about quran and u barton a big fool started cursing islam and and his messenger from Allah muhammad. instead for you to defend those verses in your bible containing disprepancies/contradiction, absurdities,,adulteration,inconsistencies, abnormalities, fabrication, interpolation etc. It shows how ignorance you are by cursing prophet of God. The muslim are the best compare to u followers of the bible. Once more @mark barton you head the department of ignorance.

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  67. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    MARK BARTON,
    DO u know the meaning of the arabic word ‘islam’? i guess yo don’t. ‘ISLAM’ contains the four things ” sincerity, surrender, obedient, submission and peace’ of will of the creator. the word ‘muslim’ means a person who acquire peace by submitting his or her will to the creator will to the creator. ISLAM is the only non-christian faith that makes it an obligation for the followers to believe in JESUS CHRIST. no muslim is a muslim if he does not believe in JESUS CHRIST. we believe in His miraculous birth (which many modern day christians do not believe). we believe that he gave live to the death with God’s permission. we believe that we heal those born blind. we the muslims and the christians based on these, are going together. the only difference is that, we say and believe that, JESUS CHRIST is not God almighty himself, he is not God incarnate or the begotten (through sexual relation) son of God. And that he was not crucified nor resurrected. if you want further prove involving references from logic, quran or the bible, i am ready to so.
    Now, let me ask u questions concerning what u have stated.
    Do u what to tell us that
    1. ” Islam (peace acquired by sincerely submission, surrender, obedient to the will of the creator) is the antithesis of the followers of Yeshua?
    2. Muslims (a person who acquire peace by submitting his or her will to the creator) seek the Antichrist of the bible?
    3. muslims Confess with our mouth and believe in your heart that Yeshua is the messiah?
    4. have u studied islam at all?
    5. have u taken the pain to study the Quran and the Hadith?
    if not why are u spreading these unguided, uncultured, uncivilized and misconceptions to the public?

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    • Susan says:

      Have you considered what it means that Mohammed corrected God by issuing the Qu’ran which he claims to have received from an angel?

      Do men or angels correct God?

      Read the Book of Galatians, chapter 1, verses 6 through 8.

      Hope this helps!

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  68. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS NEITHER KILLED NOR RESURRECTED AS ALLEGED BY THE CHRISTIANS AND THE JEWS, BUT THAT HE WAS ALIVE!
    1. JESUS WAS RELUCTANT TO DIE! He had worked out a strategy of defense to repel the Jews. Because he wanted to remain ALIVE! (Luke 19:27), (John
    2:15), (Luke 19:39), (John 13:27), (Luke 22:35-36), (Matthew 10:16), (Luke 22:38), (Matthew 26:51), (Matthew 26:36 ), (Matthew 26:37-38 ), (John 18:3), (Luke 22:49), (Matthew 10:34), (Luke 12:49 & 51),
    2. HE BESEECHED GOD FOR HELP. With strong crying and tears for God Almighty to keep him ALIVE! (Matthew 26:36 ), (Matthew 26:37-39), (Luke 22:44),
    3. GOD “HEARD” HIS PRAYERS Which means that God accepted his prayers to keep him ALIVE! (James 5:16) , (Hebrews 5:7),
    4. AN ANGEL OF GOD CAME TO STRENGTHEN HIM: In the hope and belief that God will save him ALIVE! (Luke 22:43)
    5. PILATE FINDS JESUS NOT GUILTY! Good reason to keep Jesus ALIVE! (John 18:33,36), (John 18:38), (Matthew 27:24). ,
    6. PILATE’S WIFE SHOWN A DREAM IN WHICH SHE WAS TOLD THAT – “No harm should come to this just man.” In other words that he should be saved ALIVE! (Matthew 27:19).
    7. SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE CROSS FOR ONLY THREE HOURS. According to the system in vogue, no man could die by crucifixion in so short a time which means that even if he was fastened to the cross – he was ALIVE! (Deuteronomy 21:23)
    8. THE OTHER TWO – HIS “CROSSMATES” ON THEIR RESPECTIVE CROSSES WERE ALIVE. So Jesus too, for the same period of time must be ALIVE! (John 19:33)
    9. ENCYCLOPEDIA BIBLICA UNDER ARTICLE “CROSS” – COLUMN 960: Says that when the spear was thrust – Jesus was ALIVE!
    10. “FORTHWITH” CAME THERE OUT BLOOD AND WATER: “Forthwith” means straightaway, immediately which was a sure sign that Jesus was ALIVE!
    11. LEGS NOT BROKEN – AS A FULFILMENT OF PROPHECY. “Legs” can be of any use only if Jesus was ALIVE! (Psalm 34:20)
    12. THUNDERSTORM, EARTHQUAKE, AND DARKENING OF THE SUN ALL WITHIN 3 HOURS! To disperse the sadistic mob to enable his “secret disciples” to help, keep him ALIVE!
    13. JEWS DOUBTED HIS DEATH: They suspected that he had escaped death on the cross – that he was ALIVE! (Mark 15:44), (Matthew 27:62-64)
    14. PILATE “MARVELS” TO HEAR THAT JESUS WAS DEAD. He knew from experience that no man can die so soon by crucifixion. He suspected that Jesus was ALIVE!
    15. BIG ROOMY CHAMBER: Close at hand, and big and airy for willing hands to come to the rescue. Providence was out to keep Jesus ALIVE!
    16. STONE AND “WINDING SHEETS” HAD TO BE REMOVED: Only necessary if Jesus was ALIVE! (Mark 16:9 and John 20:1)
    17. REPORT ON WINDING SHEETS. German Scientists who carried out experiments on the “Shroud of Turin” said that the heart of Jesus had not stopped functioning – that he was ALIVE!
    18. EVER IN DISGUISE! Disguise not necessary if Jesus was “resurrected”. Only necessary if he was ALIVE! (John 20:15), (John 20:15), (according to John 19:39)
    19. FORBADE MARY MAGDALENE TO TOUCH HIM. “Touch me not” for this reasons that it would hurt; because he was ALIVE! (John 20:17)
    20. “NOT YET ASCENDED UNTO MY FATHER” In the language of the Jews, in the idiom of the Jews, he was saying, “I am not dead yet”, in other words, “I am ALIVE!” (John 20:17)
    21. MARY MAGDALENE NOT AFRAID ON RECOGNISING JESUS. Because she had seen signs of life before. She was looking for a Jesus who was ALIVE! (Mark 16:9 and John 20:1),
    22. DISCIPLES PETRIFIED ON SEEING JESUS IN THE UPPER-ROOM. All their knowledge about the “crucifixion” was from hearsay, therefore, they could not believe that Jesus was ALIVE! (Mark 14:50), (Mark 16:11), (Luke 24:30), (Luke 24:36-37)
    23. ATE FOOD AGAIN AND AGAIN IN HIS POST “CRUCIFIXION” APPEARANCES. Food only necessary if he was ALIVE! (Luke 24:39-40),
    24. NEVER SHOWED HIMSELF TO HIS ENEMIES. Because he had escaped death by the “skin of his teeth”. He was ALIVE!
    25. TOOK ONLY SHORT TRIPS. Because he was not resurrected, not spiritualised, but ALIVE! (Luke 24:30)
    26. TESTIMONY OF MEN AROUND THE TOMB: “Why seek ye the living among the dead?” – (Luke 24:4-5): That he is not dead, but ALIVE!
    27. TESTIMONY OF ANGELS: “. . . angels who had said that he was ALIVE!” – Luke 24:23. Did not say, “resurrected” but the actual word uttered by the angels was “ALIVE!
    28. MARY MAGDALENE TESTIFIES – “. . . they heard that he was ALIVE, and had been seen by her, they believed not.” – (Mark 16:11): Mary did not vouch for a spook, or ghost or spirit of Jesus but a LIVE Jesus. What they could not believe was that the Master was ALIVE!
    29. DR. PRIMROSE TESTIFIES: That the “water and the blood”, when Jesus was lanced on the side, was on account of an upset in the nervous vessels because of the scourging by staves. Which was a sure sign that Jesus was ALIVE? (John 19:34)
    30. JESUS HAD HIMSELF FORETOLD THAT HIS MIRACLE WILL BE THE MIRACLE OF JONAH! According to the Book of Jonah, Jonah was ALIVE, when we expected him to be DEAD; similarly when we expect Jesus to be DEAD, he should be ALIVE! (Matthew 12:38), (Matthew 12:39), (Matthew 12:40), (Jonah 1:12)
    RESURRECTED OR RESUSCITATED? CRUCIFIXION OR CRUCI-FICTION
    1. LITTLE GIRL WHO “DIED” TELLS HOW SHE CAME BACK TO LIFE (After 4 Days) – (“Daily News” 15/11/55).
    2. MAN DIED FOR TWO HOURS: STILL LIVES – “Miracle” amazes doctors – (“Sunday
    Tribune” 27/3/60).
    3. HE DIED FOR 4 MINUTES – Man’s heart stops but he lives on – (“Sunday Express” 23/7/61).
    4. HE DOES NOT KNOW THAT HE DIED FOR 90 SECONDS – (“Cape Argus” 16/3/61).
    5. DR. HITGE RETURNED FROM THE DEAD – (“Cape Argus” 4/5/61).
    6. THE COFFIN MOVED – Young man narrowly escaped being buried alive – (“Sunday Tribune” 13/5/62).
    7. BACK FROM THE DEAD – After being thought dead for 2 days – (“Post” 25/7/65).
    8. “CORPSE” WINKS AT UNDERTAKER – Doctor wrote out a death certificate – (“Daily News” 25/3/75).
    9. “CLINICALLY DEAD” – Toddler alive after hour-long revival battle – (“Natal Mercury” 5/12/82).
    10. WAS HE DEAD OR ALIVE? – The dilemma facing transplant Doctors – (“Sunday Tribune” 17/7/83).

    11. SHAKEN AND STIRRED – Declared clinically dead “from too much Christmas liquor” (“Daily News” 3/1/84).

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      “EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS NEITHER KILLED NOR RESURRECTED AS ALLEGED BY THE CHRISTIANS AND THE JEWS, BUT THAT HE WAS ALIVE!”
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      This is John writing and Jesus speaking:
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      Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.”
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      It appears that Jesus is disagreeing with you in his own words.
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      Also, maybe you should review first century Roman punishment and execution techniques.
      Jesus was flogged 39 times by professional soldiers. The general consensus on flogging was that 40 times was never done as no man could survive it. Then crucified on the cross unto death as well as having the pericardium pierced with a spear. If he was not already dead then the piercing of the pericardium results in death within 3-4 minutes without exception.
      The Romans were professional soldiers – subject to execution for failure to follow out orders.

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  69. Md Abul Basar says:

    Think about a prescription.
    A Doctor never prescribes the same thing for every time. He prescribes to observe the patient’s condition.
    LIKE that ALLAH (God) sent Bible as the demand of the conditions of people in the period of Hazrat Isa . And he sent Quran as the demand of the people in the period of Hazrat Muhammad (sm) and next of them.
    So Quran is the latest prescription and It is for all including the people who came before and who will come the next.

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    • Mandy says:

      Spot on
      Also quran can be memorized
      From cover to cover
      Its instilled in believers
      Non arabs so they might be Malaysian
      Non arab yet can memorize
      Young
      Old
      Australian
      American etc…
      Any part can be memorized
      But amazing all the Quran
      Can be memorized
      How much of the BIBLES have u memorized

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 14:6-7 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”
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      Romans 3:25 God presented Him as an atoning sacrifice through faith in His blood, in order to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had passed over the sins committed beforehand.
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      “So Quran is the latest prescription”
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      REALLY ????

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  70. Follower of oneness says:

    To all my muslim friends, I have a doubt:if Jesus is merely a prophet why does he had to have a virgin birth, he could have been a prophet like all the other who are previously come.?

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  71. Anthony Gerard says:

    Dear Beloved in Christ Jesus, Whatever we may argue or prove a point, I have been bewildered about the ways & the thoughts of the almighty which is far from reasoning out, since many of the ways of our Maker is still a mystery that can be revealed only when the Almighty wishes to reveal to the / His select.

    Christianity, Islam or any other way of worship is nothing but religion and religion was founded by man and not God. The ultimate truth is that God is beyond religion and its multiple facets of worship.

    Let us consider our worldly fathers / Dads who have raised us up and watching over us, visibly present with us. Who wishes us to talk to him, love him as well as give him the due respect. He is not much keen on the worldly / material things for himself but always is concerned about us, his children. If this mortal / sinful / weak human being has so much to do with us, what about the Heavenly Father / Dad who created such wonderful things that cannot be understood completely by anyone till now and will not be able to even till the end of time. The Lord who created Time, Space & material in one go – Genesis 1:1, has become an element of discussion and ultimately leading to the consequences of religious beliefs. Result, death & untold suffering meted out on humanity in the form of religious intolerance.

    So let us focus on the eternal life which we are about to experience after this life from this wretched world, leaving aside religion to the deceivers & hypocrites.

    Prayer

    Father in Heaven, ever living God Almighty, I plead that you open the eyes of Your children on earth to the truth, the only Truth that will set them free.

    Lord I plead that none of us will be left out.

    In Jesus Christ your only begotten son Almighty name we pray.

    Amen.

    Alleleuia.

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  72. Julien says:

    I think this thread can go on forever and not bear any fruit whatsoever any time soon. There’s so much to discuss and a blog isn’t really the platform of choice for this type of debates.

    I’m a recent atheist-turned-christian (after 40 years of atheism). I learned everything from scratch. Studying different religions was part of the job. One of the great teachers I found extremely interesting was Nabeel Qureshi, who passed away recently unfortunately. I highly recommend to watch his Biola lectures on YouTube. You can find the complete series here: https://youtu.be/P10rHuAb4MU. If the link gets stripped, just search “Nabeel Qureshi Biola Lectures 2012”.

    I hope it will help anyone whose heart is seeking the truth. I’ll leave it at that.

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  73. N. Durgadevi says:

    We have rights to raise voice for humanity, not against any religions. People follow which they feel as true. Which gave them proper guidance. None cannot criticize other’s religions… You can criticize other’s to explore it… But not to degrade it. Qur’an gives proper guidance… Some other holy scriptures too..

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      if some one says 1+1+1=1 and told him it is not 1but 3, am i criticizing him? no! am rather correcting him. that is what we are doing. we say Jesus Christ is not God, not the begotten son of God and not part of the trinity because the term trinity does not make sense.

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”…
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        “term trinity does not make sense”
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        REALLY ??? BECAUSE RIGHT THERE IT IS IN TWO VERSES – FATHER–SON–HOLY SPIRIT

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  74. Zakir says:

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  75. LIONEL says:

    RELIGION IS THE ONE TRUE DEVIL, SO DISCARD IT OR FLEE AWAY FROM IT FOR IT IS A PRISON TO THE SOUL.
    BE YOU MUSLIM OR JEW OR “CHRISTIAN”.
    THE ONLY THING IN COMMON YOU ALL HAVE IS JESUS. SO FOCUS ON THAT

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    • karim says:

      I would like to correct you,
      Jews follow Moses, who is a Muslim,
      Christians follow Jesus , who is also a Muslim,
      Does the bible say Jesus was a Christian?

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        Moses was a Jew.
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        Jesus was a Jew.
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        Does the bible say Jesus was a Christian?
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        REALLY ??? WAS JESUS CHRIST A CHRISTIAN ? REALLY ???

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    • HASNAIN says:

      IT IS WRITTEN IN ALL LARGEST WORLD RELEGIONS ISLAM,CHRISTIANITY,HINDUISM,BHUDISM,JUDAISM THAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH IS LAST MESSENGER…….
      NOW U SHOULD FOCUS ON THIS….
      IN EVERY RELEGION IT IS WRITTEN WOMEN SHOULD WEAR HIJAB,ALCOHOL IS PROHIBITED,PORK IS PROHIBITED….
      THEN Y U ARE NOT FOCUSING ON THIS…….THESE R SAME IN EVERY RELEGION…BUT NON MUSLIMS DON’T FOLLOW IT…SOME MUSLIMS ALSO DON’T FOLLOW IT BUT MOSTLY MUSLIMS FOLLOW….U WILL NOT SEE A AM OR WOMEN IN ANY OTHER RELEGION HAVING THESE THINGS…….THEY ALL DRUNK,THEY EAT PORK OPENLY,DON’T WEAR HIJAB,DOPN’T BELEIVES IN PAROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH…………..Y?

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  76. Jamiu says:

    @follower of oneness, your name doesn’t sound the you follow oneness. Your claimed that jesus (p.b.u.h) was born through a virgin has made him God. Now my question to you, how did God created Adam? Adam has no father and mother,So adam is a greater God than jesus. Since you are confused let me help you out. Quran 3:59 says the likeness of jesus (p.b.u.h) with God is like Adam. He created him of dust, then said Be and he was atonce.

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  77. Jamiu says:

    To prove that nothing is impossible for God to create. Lets take maggot as an example. MAGGOT produce offspring without sexual intercourse. To prove it,Do the practical yourself, get a piece of meat then put it into a Tin and covered it for 3-4 days. Then open the Tin you will meet life maggot.

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  78. Jamiu says:

    Another example is a CROW. Crow is a bird which is very common. It is a black bird with white stripe around its neck. This wonderful bird do not lay egg before the younger one is produced instead CROW will find another birds egg and lie on them, and when the owner of the egg hatches the egg, crow younger must be among them.

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  79. Jamiu says:

    @CHRISTIANITY SENSE hope you apply your Sense to your comment. According to your comment you said elisha and Elijah translated to heaven without seeing death, since jesus also didn’t see death and his coming back, my question to you, will elisha and elijah also come back? And again when you are confused rather convinced about your book, you said even God warned saint john not to worshipped him and the scriptures also says we should worship only God. You contradict yourself by saying in hebrew 1:6 even the 24 elders and four living creatures in heaven worshipped him. NOW apply Your Sense in the same Hebrew 2:9 that says jesus was lower than angels. So you carried book of confusion. IF you bring such a document in a civilised country court of law, it will be thrown out twice in 120 seconds.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      This is John writing and is Jesus speaking:
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      Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.”
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      “since jesus also didn’t see death”
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      REALLY ???

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  80. Jamiu says:

    @SUSAN an illitrate can’t correct God. You Just posted rubbish without applying your sense. Muhammed was an illitrate. Isaiah 29:11-12 will enlightened you,it says and the book is delivered to one who is illitrate saying, read this and he says i am not literate. ( Archangel Gabriel commanded muhammed to read something, he replied i am not learned.). Then God says in quran 96:1 read in the name of your God. So start applying your senses before you comment on things you don’t know.

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  81. Idris says:

    Mr. Writer, your cases against the Quran are based on quranic quotations which I think you did not take the pain to find out the tafsir of those quotations.
    Remember in some write ups on stories of the prophets Adam the first man on earth indicated that all the prophets are brothers irrespective of their tribe and complexion. What makes them brothers is the message they delivered to us ” worship non but Allah he has no partner he is not born and he has not born”

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  82. Idris says:

    the Quran has no single contradictory statement unless the readers’ mind can can not comprehend it. Consult the tafsir of Ibn Kathir.

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  83. Lawrence says:

    I suppose we all err – we know the stories – throwing the first stone – only God is good.

    Islam translates as “submission” – (to the One Almighty God) – thus, if submission is of the essence (and we read that Jesus submitted to God’s will) , Jesus was a Muslim long before Mohammad arrived to carry on the work. The work, of course, was what the four pillars of monotheism (Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad) were sent to address – the appalling tendency of their peoples to turn to idols and away from God.
    As for the Son of God debate. Well, the father/son notion is a literary concept to help us grasp a spiritual reality. If the Muslims err in this respect it is due only to a high degree and profound sense of piety. Can’t blame them in the least. Better an excess of piety than an excess of dogma.
    God bless us all – Lawrence

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  84. mohamed Attia says:

    I’m awfully sorry to tell you that you need to be neutral ,if so , be sure will change your mind and be satisfied will give up comparing

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  85. Abe says:

    Hi everyone,

    I think we all need to ask help form the God ( which everybody believes) and ask help from our deep heart to give us a right direction.

    In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
    Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe
    Most Gracious, Most Merciful
    Master of the Day of Judgment
    You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help
    Guide us in the right path
    the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have deserved wrath, nor of the strayers
    Ameen (May God accept)

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  86. Jamiu says:

    @ABE , will God be ashame to put his name in his book? I’m telling you to do your research. GOd is not his name. In Greek and hebrew nothing like upper and lower case later. So God is not a name, do research on his real name.

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  87. Jamiu says:

    I mean letter. His name is not God, father or jehovah. His name is ALLAH. when you pronounce God from your mouth, is god. Not untill you write it on something for you to claim that you mean capital letter G. So lets reason.

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  88. Chief Thunderbutt says:

    You are all wrong. Many years ago primitive man looked around and saw many things he didn’t understand. If you don’t have an answer then make one up he reasoned, thus the superstitions we call religion came into being. As scientific knowledge increased the need for supernatural explanations diminished. All religions are more or less “hooey” and very few choose a religion, they are simply born in to one. Most of you defenders of Christianity would be defending Islam just as vocally if you had been born in a country where that was the dominant faith. Religion has been a great divider rather than a unifier. The world would be a better and safer place if everyone would forget religion and let empathy be the common bond that unites us.

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  89. David Shnider says:

    all of religions are just the viruses of mentally ill minds people in the history. here is my reasons, first we need to don’t care that we are, it doesnt matter you are a jew or a christian or a muslim or whatever , because thinking like that make us defensive and rise our virused minds to protect us against what we think is the true and real, but its not, why, because despite of our believes there are some facts, we can have our believes but the facts will still stand as what they are , because they are facts and you cant deny a fact, so lets go straight to the facts, fact number one, all of people called themselves prophets were just a bunch of people that society did not care about them or they had serious problem with having a normal family most of the had not a family, so they were survivors and the society specially the hard and rough societies in the old times crush them , for example we all know Moses abandoned in a river and he never had a family he was never a true sun in his family, or Jesus , jesus and his mother we all are know what jews people think about his mother , a woman that get pregnant and she is a sinner , i dont wanna raise your defense wall so i will skip the story because everyone knows when you dont have a father specially in the old times you will get abuse by people so badly so you should be a prophet to change what they are thinking , it is really hard , just for a moment think you are a boy or girl without father in the old times , people will tease and abuse you and tell you , your mother is a sinner , that is a rough childhood, and finally Muhammed , he has no family at all his parent died and he raised by his uncle until he dies and then his granpa , so he also had a rough childhood , when he get older because of his social anxiety he went to a cave and he was there for several years until one day he came back and turn into a prophet , so fist fact is most of them rejected by societies and had very rough and hard childhood, the second fact is all of them were killers, it doesnt matter they killed someone or not , the fact is all of them would be a killer if they have enough power to do it , so if you say jesus was not a killer it is not because he was not a killer , it is because he never succeeded to be a powerful man , so the second fact is they were all killers , for breaking your wall of defense im gonna say lets suppose someone came at your city with a powerful army and kill your father or your brother or your love ones , do you really care what is the purpose of that man is???, do you really can call him a great man because he killed your father or your brother or your loved ones, the problem is they were all killers and it doesnt matter you kill for fun or gold or god , they are all the same, killing is wrong , and we know that we are just fine with see killing the others because they are not our family so it is not hard to hears moses or jesus or muhammed or joseph killed a man or destroyed a city we are fine with it, but it is really not fine, its wrong, i know somethimes we dont have a way and the only way seems to be killing a serial killer or a dictator , but most of the time the result of prophets existence was more murder and more rape and more violence , so the fact number two is it doesnt matther they killed someone or not they were all killers, a good killer and a bad killer is just a judge, i told you if someone come and kill your family in the name of god or maybe because or their sex relationship with someone that is not legally (religion legally something like adultery ) will you say he is a good killer , fact number three, all religions bring dark ages not only in the societies but in the minds too, you all know what dark age was , it was the darkest part of history in Europe, but one way or another normal people after centuries of suffering make it disappear, and now you can live in European country without fear of being killed because of your believes , but we all know they burnt people alive in the dark ages they crucified people , but past has past, and all of them happened because jesus bring that religion to the world , i dont care jesus was a good man or a bad man , the consequences of his religion was horribly wrong, look at ISIS now , what is the differences between them and the dark ages people now?, they are also the consequences of muhammad’s religion , and of course you all know about the jewish prophets most of them were killers, so lets see this fact that all religions have bad consequences , so the fact three is religion will bring dark ages , you maybe hate ISIS right now nut your christian ancestors were like them or even worst, so dont let your religion takes your judgement , the fact is there is no different between jew or christian or islam all of them bring death torture and many more crimes , but , there is a but here and this but is really important , but people also need religion because for many people religion is somthing that make them to be a good guy or dont do the wrong thing when they can do it , or bring them peace and peacefully thoughts, but it is because that religion is changed in history and the horrible laws about killing people or hijab or stupids laws have been removed from that religion, and it is a lite version of that religion which is actually good , but we cant deny that fact all prophets had believe to killing people and loot cities and make women to wear hijab or even marry children so these are facts , and if you are a christian and you wanna say but jesus was not like them , the simple answer is he just couldnt do his horrible actions , but it doesnt mean he was different , he crucified or someones say he went to the sky and didnt die ,whatever, he just couldnt do whatever he wanted to do , and even after that dark ages devoured Europe , lets just assume for a moment if he could do what ever he wanted to do maybe you were still living in the dark ages, so fact number three , religions bring deep dark ages and poison minds, now i am tired now so if you wanna see the truth about all religions you should see them as equally one , there is no difference between jews christian muslim or the others all of them are just worship somethig and call it god and they would are will kill rape destroy lifes because of that name, the only good version of religions are the lite versions , the original versions of religions are so horrible, original religions are just a very vastly big ocean of shit and rape and murder , so dont forget these facts , i am tired now , and you also can find more facts if you ignore your religion judgemental look and look deeply at these horrible originals religions, so hate the original religions and love your lite version of your religion 🙂

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  90. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    if some one says 1+1+1=1 and i tells him it is not 1 but 3, am i criticizing him? no! am rather correcting him. that is what we are doing. we say Jesus Christ is not God, not the begotten son of God and not part of the trinity because the term trinity does not make sense.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”…
      .
      “term trinity does not make sense”
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      SERIOUSLY ??? BECAUSE RIGHT THERE IT IS IN TWO VERSES – FATHER–SON–HOLY SPIRIT,/b>

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  91. Elie Richard says:

    May Jesus, the Son of God Allmighty, save muslims before he comes back because it is written that all will kneel to Him. And no one can be saved without Jesus and the belief in His resurrection. Jesus was pure Love and Hope. Unfortunately for muslims, mohamed was a pedophile and a murderer according to their own qoran. Furthermore, historically, the qoran was written much longer after mohamed who could not read or write died and was buried and was destroyed by the corruption of death. Jesus is alive and He is coming back soon. Maranatha. May he save the lost muslim souls who seek the only true God.

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    • karim says:

      Jesus( peace be upon him )will come back and do you know where you will find him, where all his followers will be?
      Yes he will definately return.
      As a follower Muhammad. peace be upon him.

      Do you know where?

      Then another thing, do you know where his final resting place is?

      And ask yourself this question do you know more than the creator?

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  92. Ahmad says:

    I’ll leave a simple reply to refute all of the arguments.

    For the author’s arguments to be valid, he needs to know:
    1) Arabic well
    2) The reason why the verses come down
    3) And how the verses relates to each other

    From the article we can know that the author:
    1) Does not know Quranic Arabic [X]
    2) Does not know the story behind the verses [X]
    3) Does not know that the verses in the Quran compliments each other [X]

    Which is the reason why the questions raised only causes more confusing questions.

    Rather than answering every single questions raised, I’ve pointed out the root problem.

    Rather than depending on articles written by others, why not explore the Quran yourself? 🙂
    Ask a muslim about the Quran yourselves. Learn the stories behind it yourselves. Read it and experience the grammar yourself.
    Then you’ll know. Pray to your God to show guidance everyday. 🙂

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  93. karim says:

    All of you can debate which is the truth as much as you like, Remember you are in need of heaven, not heaven is in need of you.
    As per Islam Religion is not forced on any 1.

    If you believe Christianity is true Religion well wishes to you.
    Everyone will see the truth when their soul leaves their body and on Judgement day.

    Islam teaches us not to condone other religions or hurt any one.
    So I am not going to quote from Al Quraan or Bible.

    End of the day your choice will either take you heaven or hell.

    its Your Choice.

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  94. karim says:

    Sons of Adam, be humans stop this criticising of other religions and quoting scriptures.
    If you feel the Religion you are following is right dont condone other religions.

    And please Stop mentioning The Prophets as you are showing disrespect to them,
    124001 Prophets were sent and as a Muslim they are all our Prophets. each 1 was sent to each tribe to rectify them.
    Only Their / our Leader and seal of the Prophets was sent as a universal Prophet,

    Our job is to invite to Islam and Almighty will do the rest.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  95. karim says:

    This debate has been going on since Inception of Islam over 1400 years ago and will only end when the Almighty says.
    So in the meanwhile I would like to help those in search of the truth.
    REMEMBER LISTEN TO YOUR HEART AND YOU WILL FIND TRUTH.

    1.Our purpose of life is to worship 1 Creator.
    2.To praise him and thank him and glorify him.
    3.Our goal of life is to go to Heaven.

    Now Take all scriptures and see what your heart tells you, only the Creator can describe heaven / hell so the scripture that your heart believes is true Is The Creators word.

    Also ask yourself how many people have memorised this scripture with Almightys grace.
    The Creator says he will protect his scripture so memorising it is his miracle.

    You will find the truth.
    All we can do is assist.

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  96. ak says:

    The answer to your questions is glaring at you.
    The Almighty is all knowing, all seeing, all hearing etc….
    He dont make mistakes. If the Bible was true then a ” New Testament ” would not be created.
    Why was the new Testament created when The Lord knows all?
    Blasphemy only invokes the wrath of The creator, If you want to have a battle with your Creator continue belittling his Scripture and Messenger and see where you end up.
    We all gonna face the Creator on the day of reckoning and Only 1 Intercessor there will be on that day.
    and Islam has all the answer from how a child is born, parents, status of women, marriage, being a good human, marriage, divorce, death, questioning in the grave, hell, heaven, etc all divine guidance sent down from the Almighty.
    Prayer at prescribed times as per his command, way of life as per his teachings and celebrations every week.

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  97. Susan says:

    The Koran doesn’t have the record of prophecies that the Bible does.

    Islam is another cult like the Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses.

    Everything but faith in Jesus by grace is false religion.

    The Mormons, the JWs and the Muslims all try to
    change and add on to God’s Word in violation of the warning not to do that in the Book of Revelation.

    But it is hard removing the cult indoctrination from some people.

    Christ is the real deal because so many try to claim His authority and issue new revised counterfeits of HIm and His teachings.

    PAul warned the world that there was only one Gospel delivered by Jesus but people have trouble separating themselves away from their families and their family’s false religions unto Him.

    But Christ’s family is the one God adopts.

    I don’t know why anyone settles for worldly religion when they can be on God’s side.

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  98. Walter Johnston says:

    all 3 of your premises are incorrect because you didn’t read the Quran or the bible. You’re just writing a paper with no knowledge of the 2 books. Let me fill you in and get you up to speed. People of the Islam faith must accept a portion of the bible to be the word of god. The first 5 books of it in fact. It came from Moses the prophet. Muslims accept the Gospel as it came from phrophet Isa (Jesus) and finally the Quran which is the final time God is going to remind us knuckleheads to stops going astray. You see, God gave us a big book to follow and the different religions just stopped short in the book. The Jews stopped after chapter 1, The Christians stopped after chapter 2, and the Muslims read the entire work of god and accepted that. So your premise that only 1 book (the bible or the Quran) can be the word of god is flawed. They all are the word of god. Some prophets twisted god’s words so God said this in Deuteronomy 18:18-20: ” I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” That prophet is Mohammad. He was illiterate, but the Angel Gabrel taught him the exact words of god over a 23 year period, and those words in the Quran are exact, perfect and cannot be misinterpreted.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  99. Kabir says:

    *38 Simple Reasons Why Is Jesus Not God*

    1- God Doesn’t Change His Nature (Malachi 3:6)
    2- GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus. (John 14:28 )
    3- No one is “Good” including Jesus.
    Only GOD is” Good” (Luke 18:19)
    4- Jesus said he doesn’t know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Knows. (Mark 13:32)
    5- Jesus said that” OUR God is One GOD (Mark 12:29 )
    6- Jesus also said “My GOD and your GOD” (John 20:17)
    7- Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty. (Matthew 26:39)
    8- Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days (Mat1:4), while GOD Almighty can not be tempted (Jacob 1:13)
    9- Jesus said he is a man (John 8:40)
    10- God is neither a man nor a son of a man (Numbers 23:19)
    11- No one can see god (1 John 4:20) but people saw Jesus
    12- God is the living and everlasting (Habakkuk 1:12)
    13- Jesus always confessed he is just a prophet sent by god (Matthew 21:10-11)
    14- God Declare Himself to be God, Jesus didn’t (Ezekiel 20:20)
    15- Jesus told his real mission ws to preach nt sacrifice Mark1:38)
    16- Jesus desired Mercy not Sacrifice (Matthew 9:13)
    17- Jesus refered himseld as Servant: Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16
    18- Referred himself as Prophet:
    Matthew 8:20 13:16,21:11, Mark 6:15, 6;4, 9;37, Luke 7:16, 9:8, 9:19, John 13:17, 7:16, 6:14, 7:40
    19- Referred himself as Son of Man:
    Matthew 5:9, 17:22, 8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke9:22, John 5:27
    20- Referred himself as a Slave: John 13:16, Matthew 10:24
    21- Referred himself as a Student: Matthew 10:24
    22- Father is Grater than Jesus (John 14:28) How can someone can be greater than God?
    23- Jesus was taught by the Father (John 8:28)
    24- Jesus can do nothing by himself (John 5:19, John 5:30)
    25- Jesus does not even has his own doctrine (John 7:16)
    26- Jesus ascend to his God (John 20:17)
    27- According to Christian Jesus died as recorded in Matthew 27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Pslam 102:27-27
    28- Jesus needed to Pray, Eat, Drink and Was Helped by Woman, as stated in Luke 8:1-3 but God in Bible is self-sufficient
    Psalm 50:12
    29- The God remain the same in nature (Hebrews 1:12)
    30- Jesus is the same human today, yesterday and forever (Hebrew 13:8)
    31- Jesus could not save anyone as he was even not able to save himself (Hebrews 5:1-8)
    32- Jesus said he was send to lost sheep of Israel
    (Matthew 15:24)
    33- God can not be born and perhaps form his own creation
    34- Jesus never said people to worship me
    35- Jesus did not Teach Trinity
    36- God is the essence of the worship. He is the object of worship. Had Jesus been God, he would have told people to worship him. Truly, he did the exact opposite as in Matthew 15:9
    37- Jesus never called his followers Christians, Paul did
    38- Jesus as a servant of God (Matthew 12:18)

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  100. Jamiu says:

    @SUSAN you are the most ignorance in this topic, You lack knowledge and your brain is malfunctiong. Who is your master paul or jesus? Paul has put fault spirit in your heart and drain your brain. Your brain function like maggot. You had better keep that your dirty mouth shut.

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  101. Someone11 says:

    This is sad. All I see is people squabbling like children – over which messenger bought down the message of Allah/God.
    Allah is the aracbic word for God – if you have the time and patience to study the arabic language, which was the language chosen to reveal the message in.
    Instead of fighting and arguing over which prophet/messenger got it right – why don’t we actually pay attention to the actual message sent by Allah/God?
    That of peace and tolerance. To believe in Allah/God – the oneness of Allah/God – and the inevitability of the Day of Judgement. Death is inevitable for all humans.
    The most important message that is carried in the Bible is exactly the same as the message carried by the Quran (and by the Torah as well). To believe and to worship only Allah/God.
    By putting so much important on the actual messengers (they were just MESSENGERS!) is treating them almost akin to God/Allah, turning them into idols almost – which is strictly forbidden for humans to do.
    Pay more attention to the message itself.
    What is more important? The message or the messenger?

    I pick the message.

    Peace and love to all. Amen.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      The message of The Holy Bible was and always will be:
      .
      .
      John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
      .
      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  102. Arif Kitchlew says:

    You all win. Congratulations. The good thing is that you all believe and have faith. Muslims believe in the God of Jesus otherwise they will not be Muslims. Christians believe in the God of Jews, otherwise they will not be Christians. Who is right or not is not for us to judge that is for Him to reveal. Be at peace, be happy with what you believe in. It is not our place to blame and judge. It adds no value. If you are right, you do not need to defend. If you have doubt, seek. If you have received the signs from your Lord, smile. If you have not, be on the look out. I believe that Moses was a prophet, I believe Jesus was a prophet, I believe Krishna was a prophet, I believe, Buddha was a prophet and I believe Muhammad (SAWW) was a prophet. They all taught the same religion, the Religion of Peace. We as humans created the segregations, we created the idols and compete as per our beliefs. Let’s keep our faith, let’s keep our beliefs. And allow others to keep theirs. Let’s be loving and kind to eachother. I believe in Islam. I may not be a true Muslim yet but I try to follow Muhammad (SAWW) and keep failing miserably as he is a tall order to follow. Without believing in Taurait (Torah), Musa (Moses), Zabur (Psalms), Dawood (David), Isa (Jesus), Injil (Bible), Quran and Muhammad (SAWW) my faith is not complete and i want it to be completed. So I seek your indulgence to allow me to keep my faith and I pray for you to keep yours.

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  103. Irfan says:

    For the benefit of all, the premises and the conclusion that this discussion starts with are wrong. The Holy Bible WAS (in its original form) a word of Allah and the Holy Quran IS the FINAL word of Allah. We all know that the Holy Quran was revealed way after the Holy Bible. Also, it lists numerous miracles that are clear proofs of its divine nature. It’s for the informed to decide whether to follow a previous or the FINAL revelation. Check these out:

    https://www.islamicity.org/11120/the-bible-led-me-to-islam/

    http://www.iqrasense.com/quran/what-is-quran-allah-describes-the-quran-in-the-quran.html

    And this Qur’an is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel)], and a full explanation of the book (i.e. laws, decreed for mankind) – wherein there is no doubt – from the Lord of the ‘Alamin (mankind, jinn, and all that exists).

    Quran (Surah Younus, Verse 37)

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  104. Susan says:

    Why did Mohammed change God’s Word when God said not to in Revelation 22:19?

    And why did Mohammed accept ideas from an angel when the Book of Galatians says not to in Galatians 1.

    Paul made it clear there is only one Gospel delivered by Jesus himself and there would be no future updates but people like to counterfeit the original.

    Mohammed wasn’t a peace prophet. He converted by the physical sword.

    Jesus converted people by His teachings which is the sword of the spirit. He never resorted to a physical sword. Not even to defend himself.

    Ideas inevitably bring division so make sure you got divided into the right group.

    “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

    There is nothing stopping anyone from seeking to know the truth as God advises there are only the things and the people we let stop us from knowing Him.

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  105. Susan says:

    Jesus beat Satan at the Cross and now sits on a throne in heaven. See Ephesians 1 and Colossians 2:15.

    It’s strange how many people relegate Jesus to the rank of mere prophet when Ephesians says clearly he is ruler of this world now and in the age to come.

    Does the world like to rewrite God’s book to obscure this fact?

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    • Ahmad says:

      Sorry but Mouhamed(P.B.A.H) had his own revelation and Isa Ibn Maryam( Jesus) another one. And I’m sorry that you can’t base your arguments on the Bible because it was modified.
      Mouhammed(P.B.A.H) used the sword when Allah asked him to. Take this: Imagine you are in your country and the President forbides the practice of your religion. Won’t you fight for your independence if you can’t? Of course, you will tell me that you’l go somewhere else. Imagine if you can’t go somewhere else. Islam is the last of all religions

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  106. Ahmad says:

    I think I lost my time reading the beginning of the article, so I’m sorry for those who read the whole article. I can contradict every single thing he said against Islam. Just leave a reply on my comment and I will give you my e-mail so that you can contact me.

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  107. Juzzim says:

    Can anyone hear base their arguements one solid logical proof rather than blind faith………….for all you know,you christians would probably be supporting islam the same way you are supporting christianity if u were born as a muslim…..vice versa for muslims.

    I dont see any arguements that a neutral non relegious peson can look at and be like “oh, that makes sense”.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 3:16-18 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

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  108. ChrisH says:

    Judasm, Christianity and Islam all are Abramistic, monotheistic believes. The all three believe in he same god, that evolved from El, via Jah to Jahweh. Jaweh, God and Allah are three names for the same god. Now Islam accepts the scriptures given to Jewes [Thora] and Christians [Bible]. The Quran, Muslims claim, is the final word of God [Allah]. And here is the problem : the all knowing, all mighty God actually confesses having made mistakes with the Thora and the Bible because he needs a final, perfect, version of his word, the Quran.

    “Errare humanum est” the Romans said; ‘making mistakes is for humans, not for gods’. But God admits having made a mistake twice and therefor the god of the Quran is human and not devine. But the Quran god is also the god of the Bible and the Thora. They all claim there is only one god and now that one god turns out to be human. Therefor if there is no monotheistic god there is no god at all.

    Conclusion by reading the ‘Holy scriptures’ properly : there is no god/God does not excist.

    Sorry for any mistakes in my English language ; I’m Dutch.

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    • Susan says:

      Well the problem is God said not to add or take away from His book. See Revelation 22 on it.

      And you say God made an error. Where?

      Men make errors.

      Muslims need to seriously immerse themselves in the Bible so they can see the divergence from the original text which the Book of Revelation warns against.

      When did a mere man prophet or not correct God?

      Even Jesus said only God is good. He regularly corrected the rabbis of Judaism who were suppose to be experts on God’s law but they seemed to have a problem interpreting the law to include mercy, justice and grace.

      That is always the difficulty. Interpreting Is difficult.

      Difficult enough already so why would God scrap His own work when he told the world to not add or subtract from His book and gave a warning about doing it.

      There is nothing stopping anyone from going back and comparing the two works to see the original has
      been changed authoritatively counter to God’s direction.

      It is up to the individual to check things out on their own. That is Berean.

      Anybody can argue their own opinions on the net and be doing it from misassumptions and who knows what motives so protect yourself and read the Bible and compare it to the Qu’ran.

      Jesus sat down at the right hand of God and now the Qu’ran is dethroning him? Why? Didn’t Jesus die on the Cross for the sins of the whole world?

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  109. Emmanuel says:

    Dear Muslims, I know it’s a hard to admit that Jesus is GOD and in a human nature. And it’s also hard to admit that the Holy Bible is The word of GOD. But we as Christians, are only trying to do our job: bring you to the reality. In fact, there’s a huge difference between Islam and Christianity. Allah never said he was going to forgive our sins, Allah never said : I will be back, Allah never said we would be saved by grace. But Jesus did and that’s the difference. We just want you to look at the evidence rather than be in a real blind faith. Also, why you Muslims NEVER call Allah father?

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  110. Majii44 says:

    Jesus said, Love your neighbor,as you love yourself.

    If the world,lived by this,there would be a world,we could only dream about.
    WHY???
    Love is the strongest force on earth among its inhabitants.

    The Bible says God loves us,even if we do not love Him.,

    The god of the quran,only loves those who love him first. Where have we seen that before?

    well,that is how we humans on earth love.

    Love in Christ

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  111. Abdelrahman Hendy says:

    Hi Jonathan,

    Well … I believe it makes more sense that when you use a source as a reliance on your proof, it would be fairer not only to pick whichever pleases and support your claim, but also consider other parts that gives the full correct picture.

    The Qur’an, and I believe you already know this information, but you have just ignored them in your article, included many other verses that proves the Gospel and Torah were changed and corrupted, however originally as shown in the verses that you used they were right and authentic, and actually there are still evidence until today form the old and new testimonies that Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him is a Messenger of God with Islam …

    The Qur’an speaks in many places about the Gospel and Torah. They are inspired by God to two of his messengers, and they were the book of light and guidance for mankind in their time. The Holy Qur’an itself came as a proof of them, believing in them, and dominating them.

    Allah The Almighty Says in Al ‘Imran (3-4) : “He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel. (3) Before, as guidance for the people. And He revealed the Qur’an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution.(4)”

    Also in Al- Ma’idah (48): “And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it.”

    The question remains about the position of the Holy Qur’an from the copies that were placed in the hands of the Jews and the Christians in the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), if they are the real copies that contain the word of Allah, or have they been changed?
    To answer this question, we can divide the verses of the Holy Qur’an on these sacred books – in terms of their credibility – to the following types:

    First type:
    Verses proving the occurrence of distortion at these books, and do not restrict the distortion of any kind and image, and do not mention the amount and proportion, but prove the fall in this corrupted work.

    Allah The Almighty says in Al-Baqarah(75) : “Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allah and then distort the Torah after they had understood it while they were knowing?”

    He also says in Al-Ma’idah (13): “They distort words from their [proper] usages and have forgotten a portion of that of which they were reminded”

    Second Type:
    Explicit verses in the occurrence of the deliberation of Jews to conceal some of the books that are revealed, and hide, and try to bury and obliterate the facts.
    Allah says in Al-An’am (91) : “Say, “Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You [Jews] make it into pages, disclosing [some of] it and concealing much”

    Also in Al-Baqarah (146): “Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it].”

    Third Type:
    Explicit verses proving the entry of some increase in these books, and that some of them mixed with unoriginal text.

    Allah says in Al ‘Imran (78): “And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, “This is from Allah,” but it is not from Allah . And they speak untruth about Allah while they know.”

    He also says in Al-Baqarah (79) : “So woe to those who write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say, “This is from Allah,” in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.”

    Allah says in Al-Ma’idah (116-120): “ And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.(116) I said not to them except what You commanded me – to worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness. (117) If You should punish them – indeed they are Your servants; but if You forgive them – indeed it is You who is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.(118) Allah will say, “This is the Day when the truthful will benefit from their truthfulness.” For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, Allah being pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment. (119) To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent. (120)”

    Fourth Type:
    Verses emphasises some of the right in these books that are in their hands in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him, and to make such a measure of the right remaining in their hands, an argument against them, and evidence of the invalidity of what they are on. These are the verses that you have used to support the argument on the authenticity of these books in their entirety, even in our time, and all this is not indicative in these verses and similar.

    Allah Says in Al-Ma’ida (43): “But how is it that they come to you for judgement while they have the Torah, in which is the judgement of Allah ? Then they turn away, [even] after that; but those are not [in fact] believers.”
    So, He mentions that it includes the command (Judgement) of Allah.

    Allah says in Al-Ma’ida (47): “And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.”
    So, Allah commanded the people of the gospel to follow it (without incurring changes), and to judge what Allah revealed to them.

    Also, Allah says in Al-Ma’ida (68): “Say, “O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people.”

    To have the full picture, the Qur’an says that copies of books that were in the hands of the rabbis of the Jews and Christians included the mention of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Allah says in Al-A’raf (157) : “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel”

    Allah says in Al-‘Imran (93): “Say, [O Muhammad], “So bring the Torah and recite it, if you should be truthful.”

    Allah delegated the preservation of the Torah and Gospel to their scholars and monks as it is mentioned in Al-Ma’idah (44) : “Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto”.
    Allah did not guarantee to preserve them as He guaranteed to preserve the Qur’an. There are a number of reasons for this, that are covered ta the end.
    From the above, we conclude:
    1. The copies of the Torah and the Gospel contain some of the truth, which was described by the verses as “the judgment of Allah”. The Holy Quran called upon the Jews and Christians to establish this right and follow it, and made it an argument against them in their void.
    2. In these two books, words of human speech, attributed to Allah falsely.
    3. There is an apparent lack in the current books compared to the originals that were revealed to the Prophets (peace be upon them) because of the concealment of some of the rabbis and the monks, something that Allaah has enjoined upon them.
    4. The distortion of the these books included two things: verbal distortion, an increase or a decrease from what was in it, and moral distortion, by diverting whatever truth that’s still left in these books, to the meaning of void, contrary to what Allah wanted for their followers.

    Finally, about your question that if Quran is true and nothing have been changed in it since its revelation to Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him (And this a fact, that no one can deny, we only have one version of Quran, and this is easily traceable by history 1,400+ years ago), so why the Gospel and Torah are not maintained like Quran?

    Allah delegated the preservation of the Torah and Gospel to their scholars and monks, based on the evidence of the verse:
    In Al-Ma’idah (44) : “Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto”.
    Allah did not guarantee to preserve them as He guaranteed to preserve the Quran. There are a number of reasons for this:
    1. Allah wanted the Quran to remain the eternal Book and the law that would abide until the Day of Resurrection.
    Allah says in Al- Ma’idah (48): “And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it.”
    There was no need for the previous Books to be preserved, especially since the time of the Quran was close to the time of the Gospel, and there were only six hundred years between them.
    2. That it was to be a test for those who had been given the Book – would they play their role in preserving the Scripture? Would they believe in what it said? Would they follow the Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, whom they found mentioned in the Torah and Gospel? Or would they persist in their stubbornness and distort, conceal and falsify?
    3. This was also a test for all the followers of Christianity until the Day of Resurrection. They can see that the Book in which they believe is not free of distortions, doubts and loss, and they can see that the Book of the Final Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) has been preserved and transmitted by so many from so many that no one can doubt its authenticity, so that calls them to believe in the clear Book, the Noble Quran.

    And Allah knows best.

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    • Susan Tan says:

      Read the whole bible from back to cover and contrast them: Jesus is God and Mohammed is a man.

      So why are you letting a mere man claim prophet status and cut you out of God’s family?

      Read the New Testament. Christ adopts his followers into the family of God after forgiving their sins.

      Why would a member of God’s family cut off his family connection with God to go into a works based religion to slave for a man
      when he can be a part of God’s very own family?

      I love being in God’s family.

      Some man isn’t going to come along after Christ and write a book and get me to forfeit a personal relationship like that with God is he?

      God said to love Him with our whole heart, soul and mind not give it up in favor of a prophet.

      Why follow a prophet when you can ask Jesus to give you the gift of prophecy and become a prophet in His name yourself.

      Jesus came to forgive sin, give His people spiritual birth and to graft them into the family of God which is the tree of eternal life.

      All you have to do is return jesus’ love and receive Him as Lord and Savior then be baptized.

      See Colossians 2:12:
      Buried with him in baptism, wherein also he are risen with Him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

      God is love. His son died and was resurrected so works based religion could be raised off of people’s backs and they could be restored to a right relationship with God as members of God’s own family.

      If you think your own personal fasting and praying and religious observances are better than God’s very own work on your behalf then may Allah have mercy on your soul.

      God sent his Son to find a
      few good people who would respect and love Him enough to listen to Him. Throw off their fear of men and this world and follow Christ.

      Anything less than that is false religion and you bought the Satanic lie.

      God loves everyone all the time and there is nothing you can do
      to earn that love but just gratefully accept it and let it change and work in you from the inside out.

      Peace Be With You Muslims!

      You are made in the image of God so receive your true Father, love Him and let Him restore His image in
      you.

      DIdn’t you know.

      This life is one big identity theft by the devil.

      So let God restore your God given identity to you through Jesus once and for all and be adopted into the family of God.

      You can’t earn this!

      It is the free gift of God to those who return His love and receive Him as the great sovereign and lord that He is.

      May His Grace Abound to You!

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  112. Syeda Farheen Masroor says:

    Listen! This is not a subject ….. For us (Muslims) is quraan and for u bible.
    So we are respecting ur religion and u are not?
    Why is this
    There is no blog about negative things about the bible, by a Muslim
    Let us live in peace and harmony and let the world go on…
    My brother, religion matters or not it’s up to the person
    But a human is a human
    And we learn how to respect humans
    So why not respect human religion
    If u want to earn money by writing blogs, don’t write by being a Muslim hater, write being a human lover!
    I am sure there is something in the bible that says respect other religions
    So if u believe the bible the “book of god” than follow it!!!!!!!!!!
    Good day to you
    A Message from a Muslim….

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  113. Jamiu says:

    @SUSAN, you won’t listen. Your brain is been programmed and is hard for you to think. What you’ve been quoting was galatians, colossians,thessalonians, phillippians, corinthians, who is this? You’ve been quoting paul, paul, paul, paul, i’m asking you, who is your master? Paul or jesus?. Show me the gospel of jesus in your bible, also show me the book of mary. Your believe should not base on what someone says, or interpretation. SUSAN start using your brain, why is the gospel written “According to”. Why the word According to”? Remember all the four gospel were not jesus (p.b.u.h)desciples.

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  114. Jamiu says:

    @SUSAN now just reason to this, open your bible to first epistle of john 4 verse 1-2. I.e 1 johh 4:1&2 and i quote. It says, beloved do not believe every spirit but try the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 by this you know the spirit of God every spirit that confesses that jesus christ has come in the flesh is of God. From the verse one above john is using spirit for a prophet, his telling us believe not in every spirit, because many false prophet have gone out into the world. Which means a true spirit is a true prophet, and a false spirit is a false prophet, how do we now know whether this spirit or prophet is of God, it says in verse two any spirit that confesses that Jesus has come in flesh is of God, which means a prophet that confesses that jesus christ come in flesh is of God. Now lets read quran chapter 3:45 and i quote remember when the angels said to mary, o mary God gives you glad tidings of word from him, whose name is the messiah, jesus son of mary, he shall be dignified in the world and the hereafter and of those nearest to God. Here muhammad is confessing that jesus is the messiah (christ) . Which means his the prophet/spirit from God

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    • John 3:16 says:

      You judge a prophet by the fruits of his work. What was the consequence of Mohammed marrying a 6 year old girl and having intercourse with her at 9? The quran says that it is a book valid through all ages and that Muhammed is the perfect example of a man who everyone should emulate. What do you think this caused? Do you stop to consider the millions of little girls life in this day and age, that that action and those words have ruined?

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      @Jamiu – Read the entire chapter of 1 John 4 not just 2 verses.
      .
      Testing the Spirits

      1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you will know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and is already in the world at this time.
      4 You, little children, are from God and have overcome them, because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception. 7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 This is how God’s love was revealed among us: God sent His one and only Son into the world, so that we might live through Him. 10 And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God remains in us, and His love is perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we remain in Him, and He in us: He has given us of His Spirit.
      14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent His Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 If anyone confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have come to know and believe the love that God has for us. God is love; whoever abides in love abides in God, and God in him. 17 In this way, love has been perfected among us, so that we may have confidence on the day of judgment; for in this world we are just like Him. 18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment. The one who fears has not been perfected in love. 19 We love because He first loved us.
      20 If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 21 And we have this commandment from Him: Whoever loves God must love his brother as well.
      .
      “jesus is the messiah (christ)”
      .
      John 14:6-7 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”

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  115. Mahedi Hasan says:

    Look in Islam there are four main books which were come from the Almighty.
    They are Tawrat, Jabur, Injil, Quran. Among these Tawrat was given to Musa (A) and his followers in his time by The Almighty . Jabur was given to Daud (A) in his time, Injil was given to Isa (A) to whom Cristians call crist and
    Quran was given to Rasul Muhammad and his followers.
    The book Injil that was come from The Almighty but which you call Bible is a modified version of Injil. But todays Bible was modified and changed by some cristian people.Even still they are trying to change. There are so many verse which were changed in the new testament from old. So you can not say that Bible is still a book from God. Because people changed it. We Muslims do believe that Injil is the book of Allah. But the Bible is not that Injil because it was changed by human being. Now come to
    Quran. It was the last book came from the Almighty and it is the only book that is still unchanged and not modified.Every verse came from Allah directly and spreaded through prophet Muhammad.
    So You must be clear on a statement that Muslims do believe Tawrat, Jabur, Injil, and Quran are the book of God. But only The Holy Quran still remains original. We all are the follower of Prophet Muhammad. If you say that Bible is original Injil then we must believe that it also came from Allah. But it is not.
    Please don’t misguide people without knowing Islam. Find the truth.
    Thank you. 🙂

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    • Susan says:

      Mohammed was a man whether you give him prophet status or not.

      Of course, evil people try to tinker with the Bible that is why the Holy Spirit is in control of all revelation. Not men. A man can only share his revelation with you but the Holy Spirit gives revelation to all who love and receive Jesus for who he really is.

      Mohammed had the temerity to change what God said about Jesus so he could control people and bind them up with works that blind people to the fact that Jesus is Lord and Savior of all and also the reigning king of this world.

      It should be common sense to acknowledge that the Son of God outranks a mere prophet unless you are allowing a fear of man to control your God given mind.

      Start to think for yourselves and ask yourself why would a perfect God have to change Jesus’ status and demote him from God status to man status.

      If you give up your fear of what others think about you then maybe you can acknowledge Jesus Christ for who he really is.

      Who’s approval are you seeking? God or men’s?

      You can let men control you and subvert your own judgment or you can let God lead you into knowledge.

      I hope this helps.

      Really when did a mere prophet ever correct God or an angel.

      Prophets and angels are merely God’s messengers but certainly some men can be deceived and some people can propose counterfeits so strongly than some people will accept the counterfeits for the real thing.

      You don’t have to do a thing to get eternal life from Jesus except love and receive him.

      God Bless everyone reading! Read the Bible and ask God to make you fearless enough to receive a revelation from Him and see what He does.

      Are you really going to let another man control you or are you going to let the Holy Spirit lead you?

      Meditate on it deeply.

      God owns people that is why he redeems us from the world through Jesus’ sacrifice on the Cross. He is the Son of God and came to adopt many more sons for God. See John 1 on it.

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      • Mike says:

        Because Mohammed was evil. Read his biography written by Muslims. He allowed child marriages, he sanctioned FGM (Female Genital Mutilation), sanctioned sex slaves and slaves in general, said
        non-Muslim were the worst of creatures. Promoted hatred of the Jews and all non-Muslims. Besides he was STUPID. He said the world was flat, the sun was in orbit, the sky can fall on you. etc.

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        • salman zahid says:

          Friend, your views are biased and probably based on either very limited knowledge or one sided knowledge on Mohammad (peace be upon him). THere are Islamic books mainly covering life biography of Mohammad (peace be upon him). THese books are different from Quran, which is word of GOd. These books are known as Serat of Mohammad (meaning life of Mohammad). Please read any good book on serat of Mohammad (peace be upon him ) and then make your opinion. Also ask guidance from God while you research this subject. Because after all me and you are searching for the truth, which only God knows best. Only God can guide me and you. At least this is one thing on we which we can agree.

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          • Mark Heavlin says:

            “Only God can guide me and you.”
            .
            Yeah, and the problem is that you do NOT believe in the GOD that Christians believe in.
            .
            And, unfortunately, for you you are therefore spiritually lost.
            .
            Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”…
            .
            John 14:6-7 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”…

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            You think that Mohammed is the Helper that Jesus said would come but this can NOT be true because the actual Helper is The Holy Spirit which preceded Mohammed by 700 years.
            .
            Acts 2:1-4 1 When the day of Pentecost came, the believers were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like a mighty rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

      • salman zahid says:

        Ant give birth to an ant, elephant give birth to an elephant. A tree of orange will give oranges only. You will never see bananas being ripened on an orange tree. Then how GOd could give birth to a human. Don’t you even think a little. Look at the size of the universe, even this planet earth does not matter in this system, what to say about human. One billion galaxies and each galaxy has 1 billion stars. And a small star like sun is 1.3 million times bigger than earth. And for your knowldge all these galaxies make up not more than 2% of the Universe. Rest is Nebulas, dark matter and dark energy. Why God would give birth to a human. Even the lifetime of a human of about 60-70 years, is not even 0.000000000000000000(many more zeros)1th of the time duration of Universe. How could God give birth of his beloved son for such a short time and as a such a weak creature. On top of that dirty and filthy people like me and you go on to disgrace his son, nailed him and almost killed him. Haven’t you heard about many more myths like this in other religions and cultures. What it has to do anything with reality. Don’t you have even an ounce of a brain. For GOd sake come in reality. We respect Jesus but if you use even a an ounce of wisdom, you can say that he can be a beloved servant of God but can’t be the son of GOd.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”…
          .
          It would appear that GOD calling down from heaven disagrees with you.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “nailed him and almost killed him”
          .
          This is John writing and jesus speaking:
          .
          Revelation 1:17-18 17 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.”
          .
          It appears that Jesus is disagreeing with you in his own words.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “nailed him and almost killed him” and “Don’t you have even an ounce of a brain”
          .
          .
          Maybe you should review first century Roman punishment and execution techniques.
          Jesus was flogged 39 times by professional soldiers. The general consensus on flogging was that 40 times was never done as no man could survive it. Then crucified on the cross unto death as well as having the pericardium pierced with a spear. If he was not already dead then the piercing of the pericardium results in death within 3-4 minutes without exception.
          The Romans were professional soldiers – subject to execution for failure to follow out orders.

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  116. Hasnain says:

    I WANT TO SAY THAT:

    1)
    ALLAH IS ONE AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH IS HIS LAST MESSENGER.I BELEIVE IN ALL PROPHETS ,ALL HOLY BOOKS(CHRISTIANS AND JEWS BOOKS)…BUT I HAD TO FOLLOW PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH BECAUSE TO US HE WAS SENT BY ALLAH…. AND BIBLE AND ALL OTHER HOLY BOOKS LIKE BIBLE HAD BEEN CHANGED.SO ALLAH SENT DOWN QURAN ON HIS PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT JUDGEMENT DAY………

    2) EVERY BOOK HAD BEEN CHANGED EXCEPT QURAN…EVEN CHRISTIANS ,HINDUS AND JEWS ADMIT THAT THERE BOOKS ARE NOT IN ORIGINAL SHAPE…
    IT IS WRITTEN IN EVERY LARGEST RELEGIONS CHRISTIANITY,JUDAISM,HINDUISM,BUDISM THAT THERE IS ONE GOD.AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH IS LAST MESSENGER….EVEN PEOPLE DON’T READ THEIR OWN BOOKS AND BELEIVE…

    CHRISTIAN BELEIVES IN GOD,GHOST,AND JESUS PBUH AS GOD..(BUT THEY SAY ALL THREE ONE)…..HINDUS HAD THOUSANDS OF GOD…..JEWS HAD GOD AND THEY ALSO BELEIVE IN OTHER PROPHETS AS GOD…..BUDISTS HAD MANY STATUES AS GOD…

    ISLAM IS ONLY AND ONLY ON RELEGION WHICH SAYS ONE GOD CLEARLY that is (ALLAH)….

    3) I THINK HERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO BELEIVE IN SCIENCE SO,
    THERE IS LATEST RESEARCH ON QURAN…A JAPANESE SCIENTIST READ QURAN OVER THE WATER…AFTER READING IT IS CONCLUDED THAT MOLECULES OF WATER TAKE A BEAUTIFUL SHAPE AFTER READING HOLY VERSES…AND IF WE READ EXCEPT QURAN ITS MOLECULES FORM HORRIBLE SHAPES…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3DxELxeSLk

    4) WE MUSLIM PRAY TOWARD KAABA…ANOTHER RESEARCH SAYS THAT THERE IS A SCIENTIFIC REASON FOR PRAYING TOWADRS KAABA(MAKKAH) WATCH THIS…..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkYksIdA3FQ

    5)THERE ARE MANY SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN QURAN…FOR EXAMPLE…ALLAH SAYS A WORD IN QURAN IN A VERSE “DHAKHAHA” …
    ALLAH COMPARES SHAPE OF OSTRICH EGG TO EARTH SHAPE 1400 YEARS AGO….NOW SCIENCE SAID THAT EARTH IS EXACTLY LIKE OSTRICH EGG IN SHAPE….
    I CAN GIVE MUCH MORE BUT COMMENT WILL TOOOOOO LONG…

    6)
    ISLAM SAYS ABOUT JUDGEMENT DAY WHEN ALL THINGS WILL COLLAPSE AND PEOPLE WILL BE AWARDED AS GOOD AND BAD FOR PARADISE AND HELL…NOW EVEN SCIENCE HAD PROVED THAT ONE DAY THIS EARTH WILL BE DESTROYED.THEY SAY THAT JUST LIKE EARTH MOVING OUR SOLAR SYSTEM IS ALSO GOING TOWARS SOME THING NAD A TIME WILL COME IT WILL COLLAPSE ALL ….EVEN stephen hawking (AN ATHEIST)THE GREATEST SCIENTIST ,OF TODAY SAID THAT 1000 YEARS ARE REMAINING TILL EARTH WILL END…WHEN ALLAH AND ALL PROPHETS SAY ABOUT END OF WORLD AND JUDGEMENT DAY NO ONE BELEIVES, BUT WHEN SCIENTISTS PROVE THIS, PEOPLE START BELEIVING………………….WHATS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS………………………..

    7) I CAN GIVE HUNDREDS OF SCIENTIFIC REASONS THAT ISLAM IS THE TRUE RELEGION AND QURAN IS WORD OF ALLAH(GOD) BUT THIS COMMENT WILL BE SO SO SO LONG…….

    WE BELEIVE IN THIS WITHOUT ANY SCIENTIFIC REASONS ….WHAT ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET SAYS WE BELEIVE WITHOUT SCIENCE…ITS ONLY FOR NON MUSLIMS AND ESPECIALLY ATHEISTS WHO BELEIVE IN SCIENCE AND SAY MAN IS EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS…….DID THEY NOT SEE LARGEST HUMAN SKELETONS OF OLD PEOPLE BEFORE THEM…..ADAM PBUH WAS FIRST MAN ON EARTH AND HE WAS MAN NOT MONKEY…HE WAS NEARLY 130 FEET…AND NOW SCIENTISTS DISCOVERED MANY HUGE SKELETONS…AND NOW MANY SCIENTISTS ARE GOING AWAY FROM DARWINS THEORY…

    AND ONE MORE THING ,IN 1932 A VERY SHOCKING EVENT TOOK PLACE WHEN PEOPLE DECIDED TO DIG AND CHANGE THE GRAVE OF TWO SAHABAS(COMPANIONS OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH)…EVEN AFTER 13 CENTURIES THE BODY OF THOSE TWO WAS SAME AS THEY ARE ALIVE….THEY WERE NOT SKELETONS…..GO ANYWARE DIG UP YOU WILL NOT SEE LIKE THIS…..THIS HAPPENS NO TO ALL MUSLIMS….TODAY MUSLIMS ARE DOING BAD THINGS…
    THIS HAPPENS ONLY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE MUSLIMS NOT ONLY BY NAME BY ALSO BY WORK…THEY HAD STRONG BELEIVE ON ALLAH…..

    I AM FROM PAKISTAN EVEN IN MY COUNTRY IT HAPPENS THAT A SOLDIER DIES IN BATTLE…AFTER SOME TIME HIS GRAVE HAD TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE HE WAS AWARDED MEDALS SO ,ARMY DECIDE TO BURY HIM ANOTHER PLACE…AFTER MANY MONTHS HIS BODY WAS SAME AS HE IS ALIVE…HE IS NOT ALIVE…HE IS ALIVE IN THE OTHER WORLD…BUT ALLAH SECURED THEIR BODIES BECAUSE THEY WERE TRUE MUSLIMS AND DIED FOR TRUTH…I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WILL NOT BELEIVE BUT ITS TRUEEEEEEE…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTxPoc5S09Q

    I AM NOT A MUSLIM THAT I WAS BORN IN MUSLIM FAMILY…I AM MUSLIM BY MY OWN CHOICE….I DON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEM TO BE CHRISTIAN,HINDU,JEW,SIKH,BUDDIST….BUT ALL ARE FALSE RELEGIONS…ISLAM IS ONE AND TRUE RELEGION………
    MAY ALLAH HAVE PEACE AND BLESSINGS ON EVERYONE….HE IS MOST FORGIVING MOST MERCIFUL……

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkjNROBu6l0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DerApQ5Hrzg
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        Sorry to tell you that you have been deceived.
        .
        John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      Sorry to tell you that you have been deceived.
      .
      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  117. Muhammad says:

    Few points,to confirm the corruption of bible.
    The bible has no original text next to its translation.That is the reason there are over 2500 translations,And thats why there are 45000 sects in christianity according to http://www.christianitytoday.com of USA,
    We all know newer and newer editions coming ,e,g,revised edition,new revised editions etc.Now who is revising these editions ,God or his angels or the priests/pastors of church who are accused by followers,of corruption,sodomy,sexual misconduct etc.
    Then if someone can show me gospel according to Jesus ie.either written by him or under his supervision in Aramaic then he will make the news.
    Read jeremiah 8:8 and see what it says to inerrant nature of bible.Here it is.
    New International Version
    “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
    Then we all know that a man who was declared opponent of Jesus and his works and his followers later did the drama of seeing Jesus in vision and joined and reversed many many of the teachings of jesus.You can see it here:
    Paul’s Contradictions of Jesus – Jesus’ words Only
    https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html
    If christians are sincere to Jesus they should purify the teachings of Jesus by removing the corruption doen by Paul.
    Problem with “people of the book” is that they start with bias and start maligning Quran/Islam rather than being impartial and analyse facts.

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  118. salman zahid says:

    Bible is the word of God and also Quran is word of GOd as well. BUt people for their ulterior motives made changes in bible. This is why there are four different bibles exist now. In olden times there were even larger versions of bible, some christian historians write this number to be close to 200. While quran is preserved in its original form since its revelation. This is why you will find only one quran wherever in the world you go. There was a big program started just before the world war 2. This program was to collect all the ancient specimens of Quran present anywhere in the world and then look for any difference present between this copy. If they were to find any difference, that would have been a big blow on Islam. Because it is challenge in Quran by God that its words can never be tempered or altered till the judgement day (as proclaimed in Quran itself). After too much hard work , this program published a provisional result report that they were not able to find any difference in Quranic words however old specimen or specimen taken from far part of the world. But unfortunately the building where all the research work was done received a missile during world war 2 and destroyed. That program no longer continued. For reference please see the article of Dr. Hameedullah (Fren
    ch/Indian Scholar).

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  119. Anon says:

    Dear writer, you clearly wrote this without knowledge. And this Bible you claim is the word of God, if you are vast in knowledge and research you would know the bible is the most reviewed and edited holy book. Ask yourself the question what makes a holy book holy? If you think and reflect you would know that a holy book is suppose to be directly from God not influenced by other humans by editing and additions to suit their own desires. Please dear writer seek knowledge. For knowledgeable people live long.
    Jesus, Isa the son of Maryam is a prophet of God. And we Muslims love him. Thank you.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      “Ask yourself the question what makes a holy book holy?”
      .
      What makes a Holy Book Holy? That the BOOK comes from GOD.
      .
      2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
      .
      .
      “Jesus, Isa the son of Maryam is a prophet of God. And we Muslims love him.”
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      Not what he says about himself.
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      In Jesus’ own words:
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      John 10:22-33 22 At that time the Feast of Dedication took place in Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was walking in the temple courts in Solomon’s Colonnade. 24 So the Jews gathered around Him and demanded, “How long will You keep us in suspense? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25 “I already told you,” Jesus replied, “but you did not believe. The works I do in My Father’s name testify on My behalf. 26 But because you are not My sheep, you refuse to believe. 27 My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him. 32 But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?” 33 “We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”
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      In The Father’s own words and by The Holy Spirit’s own actions:
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      Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

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  120. Singh says:

    This whole article is wrong. I am not Muslim but after studying several religious books one can see that the actual Torah and Injil are indeed lost/changed as of now because the original context of Qu’ran talks about One God – which is very important. In today’s era of Bible Jesus is believed to be son of God – God does not have son God is beyond relations. The simple message and truth is there is One God he is not in any shape gender etc which the Torah and Bible fail miserably of today’s discussion of their books. Do not believe in your the one who is born just to die but believe in the God who is beyond that

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      In The Father’s own words and by The Holy Spirit’s own actions:
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      Luke 3:21-22 21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in a bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        Why would anyone follow a FALSE religion when they can KNOW and FOLLOW TRUTH /
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        John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  121. Rahima Basari says:

    I admire that you got search the differnce between Qur’an and bible, I wish you would search more. May I ask u, how can you be sure that bible has not change or corrupt? Why there is old testament and new testament? As for Qur’an verses muslim memorize it and its is being recite 5x a day since the day it was revealed. If it is corrupted how come we still have one version ( because it is prohibited to change anything the Qur’an and we are correcting each other if there is mispronounciation / mispell which will might differ the meaning). You already elaborate the interconnection of prophecy of the arrival of prophet Muhammmad (s.a.w) from boook Injil (Gospel), so for me it was clear. How can you say that prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) have never glorified prophet Isa (a.s)? Ask a muslim if do they hate Jesus (Isa (a.s))? He is one of the respected prophet in Islam.

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      “May I ask u, how can you be sure that bible has not change or corrupt?”
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      Funny you should bring that up as this current article addresses this very point.
      https://crossexamined.org/lost-message-new-testament/
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      “Why there is old testament and new testament?”
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      The Old Testament is GOD’s covenant with Israel. The New Testament is GOD’s covenant with the entire world.
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      This is Jesus speaking:
      Matthew 5:17-18 17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18 For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
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      “If it is corrupted how come we still have one version”
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      You are making the FALSE assumption that it was not corrupted from the very beginning.
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      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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      “You already elaborate the interconnection of prophecy of the arrival of prophet Muhammmad (s.a.w) from boook Injil (Gospel), so for me it was clear.”
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      There is NO prophecy in The New Testament that fortells the arrival of a prophet named muhammad. When Jesus is talking about a Helper to come after him he is referring to The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit arrived on Pentecost as recorded in Acts Chapter 2 some 700 years before muhammad.
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      Acts 2:1-4 1 When the day of Pentecost came, the believers were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like a mighty rushing wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw tongues like flames of a fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
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      “Ask a muslim if do they hate Jesus (Isa (a.s))? He is one of the respected prophet in Islam.”
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      Yeah, I know that you missed the point that Jesus is NOT a prophet. He is the only begotten SON OF GOD. Therefore when you call him a mere prophet you are NOT respecting him.
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      Matthew 3:16-17 16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened,c and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

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  122. Olajide says:

    *YOU HAVE AUTHORED SOME EXPOSITORY BOOKS BASED ON THE TWO RELIGIONS- CHRISTAINITY AND ISLAM. CAN YOU EXPATIATE ON THE BOOKS AND HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE YOUR PURPOSE WITH THE BOOK*
    Talking about the books I have authored, I must let you understand God was the author of these books. This is because He always directed me on what to write, when to write, and also supplies materials to use etc. first of the books is *’Jesus of the Holy Qur’an’*. This book was my thesis at West Africa Theological Seminary for my B.A (Theology). It was at this seminary I studied Qur’an and some part of Hadith (The sayings and character of Muhammad). In summary, what I did not know as a Muslim was exposed to me and I was strengthened in serving the Lord. Some of the truths I studied in the Qur’an are (a)…. Jesus is the word of God (Sura 3:45) (God created thing through His word) (b)…. Jesus is the spirit of God (Sura 4:171)(Jesus said I’m in the Father, and Father is in me) (c)…. Jesus is the Messiah (sura 3:45) (d). Jesus was born of a Virgin (Sura 3:47); (e)…Jesus is a Sign and Mercy to the world (Sura 19:21; 2:253;) (Jesus is the Revelation of God inform of a man, He’s the creator and gives life) (f)….Jesus is a Miracle Worker(Sura 3:49); (g)…. Jesus Ascended to Heaven (Sura 3:55); (h)…. Jesus is the only Prophet that is pure and sinless and I (Despite all Mohammed’s killings) (Jesus preached Mercy and no hate) ; ( i )…. The return of Jesus is to come and deliver Judgement (Sura 43:61) ( Imagine, how can a Prophet judge the world, the work of God if the he not part of the GOD ALMIGHTY, *Father, Son and Holy Spirit*

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    • SAM K says:

      For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God 1 corn 1:18

      Repent my brothers of non christian Pls……
      heavenly kingdom at the Hand of Jesus Christ..

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  123. John says:

    Both the bible and the quran can be the word of God…how? This would mean that God is imperfect, which, really, would not be too hard to see.

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  124. Mark says:

    The Islamic God (Allah) seems to me to be an IMPERSONAL God, a God of judgement and punishment. I don’t see the “grace” that comes from this GOD. The Christian GOD is a GOD of love and judgement. The GOD of the Old Testament wants to have a PERSONAL relationship with his creation. This is affirmed by Jesus in the New Testament and by Saint Paul in his letters. This makes much more sense. In greatness there is much humility. Christians believe that GOD humbled himself by coming into the world in the flesh as a baby (Jesus). Jesus rose three people from the dead (FACT). He is the only living human being that ever existed that had power over death. In order to do this, you have to have power over life as well! This is the same power GOD himself possesses. Hence, Jesus was/is GOD incarnate. He did not have to perform miracles. That wasn’t his mission. His mission was to spread the Good News that whoever believes in him shall not die but have everlasting LIFE! (John 3:16)

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  125. Brent Hurst says:

    DEAR MUSLIMS and Christians,
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    Never mind the Atheists, to win their argument all they have to do is die and cease to exist, and they have the freedom to die if that’s what they want.
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    As a seeker of truth who has studied most all of the world’s religions and looking unbiasedly as I could at all of them, Islam was the most difficult, not because of depth but because of the lack of depth. Of course Muslims would not know this as they are generally not allowed to study other religions. But even when Christians speak of other religions they have not studied them, they all start from the ASSUMPTION they are right, drawing their self-righteousness from what ever they are at present, they simply REPEAT views that are meant merely to denigrate the other religion.
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    For example Christian will speak of Hinduism as if a Hindu worships multiple Gods, yet just like Christianity, Hinduism has many sects and denominations, most of which recognize a single transcendent God, who upon creating created the “forces” of the creation, and these “forces” are seen through anthropomorphic terms as “demi-gods”. Indians who are more materialistic get side tracked by such deities but a true seeker must penetrate these flowery descriptions to see the ONE God who is hiding behind them all.
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    Christians will also claim Christianity is the only religion that offers a loving relationship with God. But at the very center of the Vedic scriptures, in the center of the Bhagavad Gita which is the Hindu bible of sorts, lies Bhakti Yoga, described as “(literally the path of Bhakti), is a spiritual path or spiritual practice within Hinduism focused on loving devotion towards a personal god.”
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    The way Christianity is practiced today is no more different from Bhakti that Methodists are from Baptists.
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    Neither is Christianity practiced that much differently the Islam, American Christians, born in a predominately Christian country, automatically feel themselves righteous as they possess the majority, most Muslims are the same, but there is a difference in their ancestry. Parents and grandparents that were Christian had more of a choice, they might have been ostracized by a community, but the parents and grandparents of most Muslims faced death had they not converted.
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    The difference is the while there is an inspired truth beneath Christianity that most Christians are not truly aware of, Islam is a POLITICAL system, DISGUISED as a religion. As an imitation is has good things about it, devotion, prayer, family values, alms, but for the most part, it is “do or die”. Yet even Christianity as understood today, expresses this same “do or die” dynamic as it is vastly understood only within the structure or context of LEGALISM, despite their claim to the contrary.
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    But now I want to tell you what the real difference is between Christ, and other religions and or prophets, what even Muhammed did not understand about Christianity.
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    Imagine I am standing before you and in one hand I hold a rock, in the other I hold the Holy Spirit, if I threw them at you one at a time your natural instinct is to duck when I throw the rock, because we all want to avoid pain, but when I threw the Spirit at you, you would not duck, nor even be afraid of being hurt by what, it would APPEAR as nothing.
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    What we consider REAL, in our materialistic minds, tends towards the material. Meanwhile the Spirit I held, that although APPEARED as nothing in this reality, is the very substance of God’s Being and will be here long after all of the material in the universe is burned away. It could be noted at this point that an active martyr such as a terrorist depends upon the reality of matter to forward his position or religion. A passive Martyr such as Steven who was stoned for the Faith, saw the nature of God as being more real than the rocks being thrown at him. Just food for thought.
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    Anyway, legalistic Christianity sees Christ and His death as a substitute for their own, God is mad, God’s justice demands blood and suffering, and God is somehow pacified seeing this punishment performed on His Son. All very nice, neat, and legal, and all the RIGHTEOUSNESS that God would demand has been dumbed down to our merely offering a heartfelt confession that Jesus was indeed His Son.
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    But here is the mystery of the Christian Faith, and to understand it you must understand His Spirit, even though it appears as immaterial, is actually the truest of realities. And this is where the Spiritual Birth comes in, but remember, Christians VERBALLY acknowledge such biblical statements, but their understanding, their doctrines will simultaneously deny them.
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    God is ONE, uncreated eternal Being
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    We are created, temporal by nature and although the rock has the appearance of permanence, it will with time be lost as atom will return to their source pools. Any identity the rock has will be lost as it returns to dust. The soul of man might be superior to the physical body, but with the loss of the created framework of time and space so too will it be lost back into the void from which it was condensed.
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    Salvation, that process which determines so save the soul and personality intact when all things are to be dissolved into nothingness, requires that God place of portion of His own Eternal Being within His created creatures, and so into the Creation He implant a Seed of His own Being, that Seed that shares His own nature is pre-incarnate as YHWH, incarnated He is known as Jesus of Nazareth, begotten of the Holy Spirit into a body which Mary provided.
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    This One SEED that descended from the Father could also return to the Father and reunite with the transcendent oneness of the eternal, but before it does it has a mission, to bond itself to some of the creatures that were hitherto merely creation by pouring God’s Spirit and Being into them also, thus becoming ONE with them.
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    The blood of Christ that touched the ground was merely the physical and observable sign, the mystery is the Life Being within Him that was being poured out into the Creation so as to sanctify those created creatures, making them also son and daughters, heirs of the eternal realm. The idea of the Eucharist is to be a visual reminder of an invisible reality, namely that we have been made true children of God as He Himself has pour His own eternal nature into us. WE are not “RE” born as if we are REinstated but rather we are born a second time, not of the created order but with an eternal imperishable seed and nature.
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    Materially minded Christian read the scriptures all the time, they read of the Spiritual Birth, the need to be born anew, but they simply cannot grasp it as their minds have not been renewed enough to see that although my hand appeared empty, it did in fact hold the creator of this very universe.

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  126. Talah says:

    It Was So Easy Brother!
    1.Bible Is The Word Of God And Is Not!
    2 And 3. Bible Is Word Of God(Some Of It) And At The Same Time Not Word Of God Cause (Some Of It) Is Corrupted, It Is Mentioned In Bible That Whoever Corrupts Bible Would Be Brought Account For That! Why Did It Even Say That? Cause Another Book That Is Quran Was To Be Descended So God Said That In Bible! Quran Whereas Confirms That It Is Not Corrupted Unlike Previous Holy Books Including Bible!
    Tada! Done!
    ALL PRAISE IS TO ALLAH!

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      Sorry to tell you that you have been deceived.
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      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  127. El Mahdy says:

    I have no idea how I reached this page. for i must have a zillion tabs open as usual. I don’t usually comment but i actually found this page refreshing in the sense that people were presenting arguments and trying to bring evidence and from what i read it was seemingly a civilized discourse. Muslims and Christians exchanging ideas, most in the hope that they can convince the other or reaffirm their own beliefs. Truly mazing really because what the Jews, Christians and Muslims have is so glaringly similar yet we always point the finger at the other accusing them of ignorance or following something that will lead them straight to the hellfire. If I may propose a solution. If you want the truth seek it from the The Almighty. Cleanse yourself with water (i think we can all agree to say a shower 🙂 and kneel, prostrate, humble yourself before your creator with no interceders and ask for the truth and the way with no prejudices and with a pure open heart. Sincerity is everything, I think if you do that and follow whatever you are guided to (without prejudice and with total sincerity) then you have already won. When you stand before the Almighty when the time comes you will have good reason to be joyful if you follow his guidance whatever it may be. Enjoy the journey Shalom / Salam/ Peace

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  128. Elmahdy says:

    Ask THE ALL MIGHTY to guide to the truth and to show you the way if you are misguided. Simple. The not so simple part is do you really want the truth or to just hang with people who make you feel right? THE ALMIGHTY will never lead you astray if you humble yourself and ask for the way in all sincerity. Enjoy the Journey

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

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  129. Granthologist says:

    You have to ask yourself this ONE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION: do you worship “the creature” (i.e. yourself on the basis of your own merits, or a philosophy that gives credit to yourself or people) or do you worship “the creator”? (in this discussion, the God of the Bible)

    My argument would be that any world system of thought (an atheist living for oneself) or any “religious” texts (Quran or Hindu Vedas) or followers of esteemed individuals (Buddha; Confucius) cause the person who abides by these as their life philosophy (believes or “worships” that philosophy) to live for idolatry and creature worship of some form, because all of the above engage in that practice and their is no supernatural power inherent in those systems of thought.

    the Bible is unique in that the adherent worships “the creator,” Elohim, the triune (3-in-1) god who is blessed forever. We live in a world whose authority has been given over to Satan by God for a time after God deemed the punishment for Satan be the Lake of Fire after Satan sinned by wanting God’s power without the responsibility. The time we live in–this is part of Satan’s appeal trial and he is the prince and the power of the air. that is why there is so much untied loose ends and human suffering in the world–Satan doesn’t know how to hold the world together properly like God does.

    Jesus Christ, the 2nd person of the trinity, is both God and man. Because he lived and died as one of us but had the spirit of God the Father and access to him constantly, he did not sin. He knew no sin but became sin for us all–and ONCE AND FOR ALL. anyone who believes in Him (Jesus) is said to be imputed with his righteousness before God the Father and is deemed righteous as Christ was deemed righteous. He is our conduit to heaven for those who would believe in his sacrifice. It is a tremendous gift

    God’s system for entrance to heaven has nothing to do with personal merit, finances, smarts, family upbringing or geological location. We are all sinners and subject to futility. We do not earn or deserve salvation by doing “good.” When we believe, we get the Holy Spirit living inside of us as believers, allowing us to discern God’s will and do good works whereby we can earn blessings in time and eternity —BUT WE DO NOT EARN SALVATION POSITIONALLY. that is a free grace gift.

    The human mind has trouble with this grace gift of salvation from God because in this life we always either owe somebody or expect something in return or earn something because of planning and get rewards, etc. The truth is, In God’s eyes, we are all sinners but able to be redeemed like the scales falling off of our eyes from Paul when we realize we can’t guarantee eternity for ourselves but have to rely on God’s grace and provision for everything. He is the creator of us, our consciousness and conscience. He created us for ourselves and wants the very best for us. He lets us be partakers of eternal life when we die; He forgives us time and again. He is worthy of our worship and respect and praise.

    Believe in Jesus Christ and you will be saved (John 3:16)

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    • Will Fizer says:

      Your premise behind your post is based off of xtian writings and NOT the word of God. The xtian writings contradict Gods word and therefore just as incorrect as the Quran( who incidentally DOES use the xtian writings as reference, albeit there are changes made by them.)
      The concepts of things like the devil, hell or a triune God are not part of Gods Holy writings but part of pagan idolatry which were later assimilated by early xtians.
      let me also add that in the word of God there is no such thing as salvation. Nor was there an understanding of Salvation at the time of the xtian writings. In tanach there is only resurrection…. ‏ in the world to come, in the Messianic age.

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      • Mark Heavlin says:

        Dear Mr. Fizer,
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        My understanding from your response to “GRANTHOLOGIST” above is that you are Jewish. If this is incorrect feel free to ignore the rest of my post and not respond. If I am correct however then I have many questions that I would like to ask you concerning the Jewish faith so hopefully you will check back here and respond as well.
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        Thank you in advance.

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  130. Peace says:

    I see you have written down some verse from the Quran as well until I can say that you are knowledgeable even more than me. But you’re already wrong since beginning if your intention wasn’t for knowledge but to prove that Quran is wrong. I can guess it from your premises. Holy books represent the religion itself. You should study all of the Quran before you can say that the Quran is wrong.

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  131. Helen says:

    So Mohammed claimed the bible was changed yet he took few books from the bible ( I guess only the one he took were not changed) and the rest of the bible is wrong. He also heard voices. Bible was followed by miracles and not only stories from the bible there is evidence ( research). Bible also warned about the anitchrist that that was Mohammed. So Muslim world was brainwashed. Mohammed started his own relegion followed by stories from bible and the rest is book of instr5uctions

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  132. Doug says:

    Premise 1 is not so strong. Since the Bible is a big book, it stands as a possibility that part of it is the word of God and part of it isn’t

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

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      • Doug says:

        So I understand that your view is that the Bible is the word of God. Great. I also understand that you get that at least in part from the Bible itself. Great. A Muslim can do the same with the Quran. Great.

        The article makes a logical argument, not an appeal to authority. Premise 1 is logically flawed, however, since the Muslim stance is that the Bible is partly the word of God and partly not. Premise 1 does not hold up to scrutiny

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “So I understand that your view is that the Bible is the word of God.”
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          NOPE. THE HOLY BIBLE is the inerrant WORD OF GOD.
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          2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
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          “I also understand that you get that at least in part from the Bible itself.”
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          NOPE. All of it. THE HOLY BIBLE is the inerrant WORD OF GOD.
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          Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
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          “A Muslim can do the same with the Quran.”
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          NOPE. Wrong yet again. They deny that Jesus is The SON OF GOD and are therefore FALSE.
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          1 John 4:1-3 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you will know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and is already in the world at this time.
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          “The article makes a logical argument, not an appeal to authority. Premise 1 is logically flawed, however, since the Muslim stance is that the Bible is partly the word of God and partly not. Premise 1 does not hold up to scrutiny”
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          Here is Premise 1 as printed above.
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          Premise 1: Either the Bible is the Word of God or it is not.
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          Premise 1 is NOT logically flawed. THE HOLY BIBLE is the inerrant WORD OF GOD. It is either completely CORRECT or completely WRONG. The muslims try and claim Jesus is just a prophet. This is NOT what JESUS however says about himself. So it is the muslims that contradict themsleves. See the Scriptures below.
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          John 10:30-31 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
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          JESUS on Scripture:
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          John 10: 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came — and the Scripture cannot be broken —

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  133. Reyhana says:

    What I would like to say, is that The Bible was written years and years after the passing of Jesus, except the first 5 books, which is supposedly the Torah. So the Torah is the Old Testament whereas the rest of the gospels, the NEW testament, were INSPIRED by God. So they were not God’s word, but God supposedly used the “Holy Spirit” to inspire people to write about Jesus and God. From my perspective, it is MUCH MORE POWERFUL that Muhammad (pbuh) was revealed the EXACT words of our Almighty Allah because it is more powerful. This is what sets right from wrong, knowing God’s words directly!

    And on top of that, to answer your question, the reason why Allah never preserved the Bible, was because it was meant for the people of that time, like it said it the Bible that Jesus (pbuh) was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Moses’s (pbuh) Torah was sent for the people of his time. Abraham’s (pbuh) message was sent for the people of his time, etc… Allah knew that people started to refer to Jesus (pbuh) as God and were starting to believe in the Trinity. The word Trinity is nowhere found in the Bible. It was a thing made up by the churches. But guess what? That word is found in the Quran, asking people to stop saying God is three.

    Allah has sent his final messenger, Muhammad (pbuh). Allah says in the Quran that he has “perfected” our religion for us, meaning that all the other messengers starting from Adam (pbuh) were meant to bring a little more of the message from Allah. So, if there is such a thing as the Old and the New Testament, then the Quran is the Final Testament. Yes, there may be things that don’t add up when comparing the Bible to the Quran, but you have to remember is that those laws were meant for the people of that time. The Quran is meant now for the generations after Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and as he is the final messager and the religion has been perfected, it makes sense that there will be no more messengers and no more revelations.

    For example, the Jews still pray in the direction of Jerusalem to pray. But Allah changed that when the Quran was revealed to Muhammad (pbuh) and thus, we pray towards the Kaaba. This was done so the generation after Muhammad (pbuh) are able to recognize each other. Like this, there were changes here and there as the religion was perfected but like I mentioned before, and I am saying it again, the revelations in the past were meant for the people of that time. Now, it is the time of the revelation of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

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  134. Sarybasha says:

    If Jesus is Lord (god) .. then who did he pray to under the tree..? Himself?? Ok never mind this.. if he was the son of God, would his father let all what happened to him happen?? .. nevermind this.. ok.. if he died for all our sins to be forgiven, does that mean that there is no judgement then.. can we all go out and sin?? Otherwise he died for nothing then..!! Makes sense yet?? Jesus said (John 16) I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he ” the spirit of truth” comes.. (rou7 Al 7aq) as known in Arabic, he will guide you.. does that mean anything to anyone!!! We as Muslims glorify prophet Jesus peace be upon him as we do Moses peace be upon him and Mohammed peace be upon him in the same manner. So please don’t feel free to insult God’s prophets any longer..

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      “If Jesus is Lord (god) .. then who did he pray to under the tree..? Himself??”
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      THE FATHER
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      “Ok never mind this.. if he was the son of God, would his father let all what happened to him happen??”
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      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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      Short answer YES as the verse above explains.
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      “nevermind this.. ok.. if he died for all our sins to be forgiven, does that mean that there is no judgement then.. can we all go out and sin?? Otherwise he died for nothing then..!!”
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      John 3:17-18 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
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      I believe the word you are searching for here is “propitiation”.
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      ” Jesus said (John 16) I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he ” the spirit of truth” comes.. (rou7 Al 7aq) as known in Arabic, he will guide you.. does that mean anything to anyone!!!”
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      John 16:12-15 12 I still have much to tell you, but you cannot yet bear to hear it. 13 However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you. 15 Everything that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said that the Spirit will take from what is Mine and disclose it to you.
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      As you are NOT Christian it does NOT surprise me that you do NOT understand these things. Jesus is talking to his disciples about his death, resurrection, and ascension to heaven. And after that has happened that The HOLY SPIRIT would come to teach them. See also the Book of Acts.
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      “We as Muslims glorify prophet Jesus peace be upon him as we do Moses peace be upon him and Mohammed peace be upon him in the same manner. So please don’t feel free to insult God’s prophets any longer..”
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      Well let’s see what Jesus says about himself then shall we?
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      John 8:57-59 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58 “Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple area.
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      John 10:30-31 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
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      Jesus was NOT a prophet He is The SON OF GOD. One third of the Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
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      Moses was Jewish NOT muslim. If Mohammed was a prophet show us his miracles like what the other Jewish prophets of the Old Testament performed. History is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR as to what type of person Mohammed was.

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      • SALIM HARUN says:

        1)REPLACE GOD AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WITH THE WORD JESUS IN JOHN 3-16 AND IT BECOMES A JOKE. FOR JESUS SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE JESUS SO THAT YOU MAY NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE?? 😁2)EVEN SATAN/ANTICHRIST HAS MIRACLES WHICH HE WILL PERFORM DURING THE END OF DAYS, SO IT IS NOT A MUST FOR A PROPHET TO PERFORM MIRACLES TO CONVINCE YOU?
        3)IF THE BIBLE IS THE FINAL REVELATION, DO YOU HAVE A VERSE IN THE BIBLE WHICH PROHIBITS GAMBLING? THE QURAN HAS ONE=5-90.

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “1)REPLACE GOD AND ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WITH THE WORD JESUS IN JOHN 3-16 AND IT BECOMES A JOKE. FOR JESUS SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE JESUS SO THAT YOU MAY NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE??”
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          You a mere man want to replace words from THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD with your own? Who are you to do that?
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          2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
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          JESUS on Scripture:
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          John 10: 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came — and the Scripture cannot be broken —
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          “2)EVEN SATAN/ANTICHRIST HAS MIRACLES WHICH HE WILL PERFORM DURING THE END OF DAYS, SO IT IS NOT A MUST FOR A PROPHET TO PERFORM MIRACLES TO CONVINCE YOU?”
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          Only as allowed by GOD for a short time. As you skipped answering my question I will ask it again. If Mohammed was a prophet show us his miracles like what the other Jewish prophets of the Old Testament performed. History is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR as to what type of person Mohammed was.
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          “3)IF THE BIBLE IS THE FINAL REVELATION, DO YOU HAVE A VERSE IN THE BIBLE WHICH PROHIBITS GAMBLING? THE QURAN HAS ONE=5-90.”
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          What? This is completely nonsensical.

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          • SALIM HARUN says:

            1)JOHN 3-16 READS=FOR JESUS SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE JESUS SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN JESUS WILL NOT DIE BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. PLEASE,CAN YOU EXPLAIN?
            2)THE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN. THE ETHIOPIAN BIBLE HAS MORE BOOKS THAN CATHOLIC OR UNION VERSION BIBLE. HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK OF ENOCH IN THE ETHIOPIAN BIBLE?
            3)MUSLIMS DO NOT NEED MIRACLES TO FOLLOW ALLAH SWT BECAUSE WE OURSELVES ARE MIRACLES. HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR BRAIN? HOWEVER,I WILL GIVE YOU THE MIRACLES OF MOHAMED-A) THE QURAN HAS STAYED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM FOR OVER 1400 YEARS.
            B) ISRA WAL MIRAJ. MOHAMEDMIGRATED FROM MAKKA TO JERUSALEM TO HEAVEN IN ONE NIGHT.
            C) MOHAMED SPLIT THE MOON WHICH MADE THE KING OF SYRIA AND HIS ARMY TO BECOME MUSLIMS.
            D) MOH’D PROPHECISED THE WELL OF ZAM ZAM WILL NOT DRY UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT AND MANY OTHER PROPHECIES. HAVE YOU SEEN THE SATANIC MAGICIAN DYNAMO WHO PERFORMS MIRACLES EVERYDAY? SHOULD WE FOLLOW DYNAMO?
            4)LAS VEGAS IS CALLED THE CITY OF SIN. THIS IS BECAUSE OF GAMBLING, PROSTITUTION AND HOMOSEXUALITY. THE CREATOR CANNOT FORGET TO MENTION GAMBLING IS A SIN IN HIS HOLY BOOK.

          • Mark Heavlin says:

            “1)JOHN 3-16 READS=FOR JESUS SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE JESUS SO THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN JESUS WILL NOT DIE BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. PLEASE,CAN YOU EXPLAIN?”
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            Yes, You continue to replace words in THE HOLY BIBLE with your own. This is CLEARLY an act of rebellion against TRUTH. So I will ask the question again. You a mere man want to replace words from THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD with your own? Who are you to do that?
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            “2)THE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN. THE ETHIOPIAN BIBLE HAS MORE BOOKS THAN CATHOLIC OR UNION VERSION BIBLE. HAVE YOU READ THE BOOK OF ENOCH IN THE ETHIOPIAN BIBLE?”
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            Union Version Bible ? Ethiopian Bible?
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            “3)MUSLIMS DO NOT NEED MIRACLES TO FOLLOW ALLAH SWT BECAUSE WE OURSELVES ARE MIRACLES. HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR BRAIN? HOWEVER,I WILL GIVE YOU THE MIRACLES OF MOHAMED-A) THE QURAN HAS STAYED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM FOR OVER 1400 YEARS.”
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            How does it being unchanged and WRONG from the beginning make it a miracle that mohamed performed? Mohamed is long dead and history is CLEAR as to what kind of man mohamed was.
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            Hebrews 9:27 Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment,
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            “B) ISRA WAL MIRAJ. MOHAMEDMIGRATED FROM MAKKA TO JERUSALEM TO HEAVEN IN ONE NIGHT.”
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            You have been deceived by a lie. This is Jesus speaking to Nicodemus.
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            John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven — the Son of Man.
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            “C) MOHAMED SPLIT THE MOON WHICH MADE THE KING OF SYRIA AND HIS ARMY TO BECOME MUSLIMS.”
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            Completely ridiculous assertion.
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            “D) MOH’D PROPHECISED THE WELL OF ZAM ZAM WILL NOT DRY UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT AND MANY OTHER PROPHECIES.”
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            We are talking miracles NOT prophecies here. So again you are simply WRONG.
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            “HAVE YOU SEEN THE SATANIC MAGICIAN DYNAMO WHO PERFORMS MIRACLES EVERYDAY? SHOULD WE FOLLOW DYNAMO?”
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            Who? And ABSOLUTELY NOT.
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            John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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            “4)LAS VEGAS IS CALLED THE CITY OF SIN.”
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            Well at least you are correct on this.
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            “THE CREATOR CANNOT FORGET TO MENTION GAMBLING IS A SIN IN HIS HOLY BOOK.”
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            I would suggest you go and read Matthew Chapters 5, 6, and 7. Lots of wisdom there as delivered by Jesus.
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            Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

  135. Syed Muaz Shah says:

    Bismillah-hir-Rahman-nir-Raheem

    This is a concise yet poignant response to the arguments presented in the link above:

    The author starts off with premises so it is best to examine them as they are steps that lead to his conclusion (I quote):

    * Premise 1: Either the Bible is the Word of God or it is not.
    * Premise 2: If the Bible is the Word of God, the Qur’an is not.
    * Premise 3: If the Bible is not the Word of God, the Qur’an is not.
    = Conclusion: Therefore, the Qur’an is not the Word of God.

    1. Here the argument fails at premise 1 – in short to go in depth would be inappropriate as our Brother Ahmed Deedat has written a very nice short pamphlet many years ago that address this point that can be found here – https://islamhouse.com/en/books/273072/

    But for even further brevity sakes let us approach this matter in shortened discussion on some big reasons as to why this is the case: (1) There are multiple versions of the Bible – there are nearly 450+ versions of the bible in the English language (ALL of which claim authenticity that they are the Word of God to the “T”) – let us not even debate about the ones in other languages which estimated is 2,251 that would be numerous. This in itself shows that the actual text itself is unauthentic somewhere – 450 versions that say different things at different points clearly raises a question to which one is the “Real” bible as each sect and group has edited/interpreted it to their belief system. Let us assume for argument sakes – in the original language of Hebrew and Greek for the Old and New Testament’s respectively how many versions are there even HERE there are multiple ancient texts that form the basis of the translated versions (which mind you in Quran translations NOT 1 translation claims to be the word of God rather an INTERPRETATION of the word in it’s original Arabic where in the English translations some claim the English IS the WORD of God NKJV is an example) – there are 7 main texts in the original namely:

    + 1. For the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) the standard that is used is the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (BHS) which is based on a 10th century CE manuscript called the Leningrad Codex.
    + 2. There is also a Samaritan Pentateuch (the first five books) that is a different version, including an interesting variation in the Ten Commandments about God commanding the people to worship at Mt. Gerizim. It is consulted by scholars to determine alternate readings.
    + 3. There are also alternate versions of Exodus and 1 Samuel found among the Dead Sea Scrolls but these are not published except in scholarly articles. They will probably have an influence on the way the accepted Hebrew text will look in the future.
    + 4. The Greek version of the Christian Old Testament is called the Septuagint (LXX) and contained some additional books that aren’t found in the Hebrew Bible. This is the foundational version for those extra books for Catholic and Orthodox Christians. The LXX also has been used in many Protestant versions adopting LXX readings that vary from the Hebrew Bible.
    + 5. The Greek New Testament is the basis for translating the New Testament. The standard version that is used is the Nestle-Alandversion.
    + 6. The United Bible Society has a Greek New Testament that is based on the Nestle-Aland version, but is geared for translators. It is very, very close to the Nestle-Aland.
    + 7. The Majority Text Greek New Testament (MT-GNT) is another Greek New Testament that is used by conservative denominations that only accept the King James Version, as the MT-GMT preserves the verses in the KJV that most modern versions have rejected as late readings.

    So even if we first disregard each English translation as a “mere translation” (Which Christians do not acknowledge themselves and often claim the English itself is the word of God) and only go to original sources – here too there is significant disagreement. Even he acknowledges this point half-heartedly when he acknowledges there are “textual variants in the NT Greek manuscripts” but that they don’t go against the “core message of the NT”. It begs the question if this is God’s word – word for word – then why are there 2 version let alone multiples!

    (2) The Bible is not the word of God because it is written in 3rd person in it’s entirety – whereas the Quran is ALWAYS in 1st person. This is a logical premise if you observe – if God spoke and man recorded it – it would be as if God stated it right? So why is there a narrator in between who writes for example: Genesis 1:3 “And God said “Let there be light” and there was light.” – here it is obvious someone is narrating explaining what God ACTUALLY said and then adds filler to explain what happened in their OWN words. In reality the “real” words of God would be His own so really logically it would mean He actually just said “Let there be light” – the rest is written by a third party who is NOT God.

    In the NT this is more glaring as each of the major gospel – Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John clearly state “The Gospel ACCORDING TO MATTHEW” and so forth and so forth – so here apparently the Word of God (Gospel) has many recorded versions ACCORDING to the author of EACH version. A note to be noted – Matthew, Mark, and Luke tend to be similar but John falls way off in the narrative on multiple occasions (Biblical scholars reference a “Q” text that the first 3 are based on that may be more authentic and that John is an outlier)

    (3) The historical construction of the Bible ILLUSTRATES it played in the hands of men for CENTURIES – it wasn’t until the Council of Nicea (According to Voltaire though most scholars say this occurred in the 5th century much later!) did the Bible ever become codified in one text – here only 27 books were kept and the rest ordered burned and seized and those who held on to them punished – these 27 make up the NT – here the point for this premise is that GOD didn’t determine what was going to be in the good book – MEN DID.

    (Counter arguments for Premise 1)

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  136. Syed Muaz Shah says:

    But for arguments sake let as assume he is correct for premise 1 –

    Moving on to the next premise 2 – he claims Bible is Word of God therefore Quran is not. This is not an accurate argument at all and fails logically – how can one BEING the word of God eliminate conclusively that the other is not? Being the Word of God isn’t mutually exclusive to one text – the Quran is more genuine here acknowledging past messages in the original form as legitimate words of God – it is a pillar of faith infact for Muslims to believe in the “Books” or how often “Ahl-e-Kitaab” is mentioned meaning as Imam shafi’ explains –Any follower of a book that was divinely inspired and given to the people via a prophet before the advent of the Quran. Muslims do not say “Quran is the Word of God – therefore the Bible is not” – this is never been a premise, the Injeel, Zaboor, Torah are repeatedly referenced as holy books in their original form – it isnt the current edited versions that are NOT the original Bible. The principle of exclusivity does not logically apply especially when there is no limiting role mentioned in the Bible – there is no reference in the Bible denying that there can be ever a Word of God text outside it – infact if anything both the OT and the NT speak about the coming of a prophet afterwards (who or when is another matter) but simply referencing this point it is sufficient to suggest a future prophet will also come with a “Word of God” and if the Christian argument is to be believed that the NT qualifies the OT then therefore this new “word of God” would qualify it – the Muslim argument here is simple Quran is the Final Testament.

    (Counter Arguments for Premise 2)

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  137. Syed Muaz Shah says:

    Let us assume for argument’s sake premise 2 is correct –

    IN premise 3 the author suggests “If the Bible is not the word of God then the Quran is Not” Here again he uses the concept of exclusivity but it is here he wishes to elaborate instead of the first 3. Let us look to his points: He first references the 2/3 references Muslims commonly use to predict the coming of the Prophet in the OT and NT. IN the OT it is Deuteronomy (18:15-19) which states: “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.”

    Here he challenges that the word “brothers” to mean Israelites amongst themselves using a previous verse namely Deuteronomy (18:1-2) here it states: “The Levitical priests, all the tribe of Levi, shall have no portion or inheritance with Israel. They shall eat the Lord’s food offerings as their inheritance. They shall have no inheritance among their brothers; the Lord is their inheritance, as he promised them.” Here are a few points (a) Brothers have always been referenced to connection thru common father EVEN if they have different mothers – this is acknowledged WITHIN this quote. The tribe of Israel had 12 tribes out of 11 brothers – 2 brothers from one mother Rachel and 9 from Leah – both wives of Jacob/Isaac(AS) interestingly it became 12 because the tribe of Joseph/Yusuf(AS) becames too big so they split it into the tribe of Manasseh and Ephraim. So BY LOGIC brothers can be of different mothers AND even be SONS of those BROTHERS. This point is key here as it follows – Ismael/Ismail(AS) is the SON of Abraham/Ibrahim(AS) from another mother from Jacob/Isaac(AS)’s mother BUT he is STILL a “BROTHER” by logical definition deduced from what “brother” can mean. Where as Deuteronomy (18:1-2) is speaking to the Tribe of LEVI it is specially restricted within the Tribe of Israel – the address given in Deutoronomy (18:15-19) is being addressed to the WHOLE TRIBE OF ISRAEL – KEY here is that ISRAEL aka Jacob/Isaac(AS) ‘s brother IS ISHMAEL/ISMAIL(AS)! The Islamic claim cannot be denied on this argument alone as Ismail(AS) falls within the definition, as described within the Bible itself, as a “brother” to Israel aka Jacob/Isaac(AS) and therefore as Prophet Muhammed(SAW) was a descendant of Ismail(AS) he can possibly fit this definition. The authors argument fails.

    HE then proceeds to the references in the NT which he restricts to John only (Though there are more)– here I will state some of the mispremises he assumes that indicate why it isn’t Muhammed(SAW) – (1) He restricts the coming of this “Helper” to the disciples because it states in John (7-14) – “I will send him to you.” – this is taken literally and he argues Muhammed(SAW) came 6 centuries later and thus cannot be him who is referenced. (2) He argues that this “Helper” will glorify Jesus/Isa(AS) and claims categorically that Muhammed(SAW) “certainly did not glorify Jesus”

    These are addressed as follows:

    – 1 – IN the same John the Jews also came up with this argument against Jesus(AS) when they said in (8:56-58) where it states – “Your father Abraham was overjoyed to see My day. He saw it and was glad.” Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” “Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!””

    Here the Jews argued how is it possible that Abraham/Ibrahim(AS) had “Seen” him since he was hardly 50 years old at the time and Abraham was centuries before –clearly Jesus(AS) is speaking in parables and the Jews are not understanding and they have restricted it in a literal sense and Jesus(AS) is trying to explain the truth that Abraham(AS) did witness this day of the advent of Christ eventhough he was centuries before yet the Jews disacknowledge this – interestingly the author himself is arguing like the Jews here saying – OH Muhammed(SAW) came 6 centuries afterwards how can that be? There is no reference in John 14 or 16 limiting it to a literal sense and if we take Jesus(AS)’s speech like it is often within parables then we can see this “Helper” that will be sent to them can have an expansive meaning. There are many other angles to this argument but this is not the time to go into that – you can read Ahmed Deedat’s take on this issue where he nullifies that this is referring to the “Holy Spirit”

    -2- This is even more of an error as Prophet Muhammed(SAW) or Islam has ALWAYS glorified Isa(AS) – the references are too many but 1 Quranic and 1 hadith should be sufficient – “(Jesus) said, “Behold, I am a servant of God. He has vouchsafed unto me revelation and made me a prophet, and made me blessed wherever I may be; and He has enjoined upon me prayer and charity as long as I live, and [has endowed me with] piety towards my mother; and He has not made me haughty or bereft of grace. “Hence, peace was upon me on the day when I was born, and [will be upon me] on the day of my death, and on the day when I shall be raised to life [again]!”” (Quran 19:30-33)

    He was blessed the day he was born, the day of his death, and the day when he shall be raised up again. (Thrice blessed – if that is not glorifying I don’t know what is)

    IN a famous hadith the Prophet(SAW) said: “Every child is touched by the devil as soon as he is born and this contact makes him cry. Excepted are Mary and her Son” (Bukhari, Muslim)

    Here the Prophet unequivocally states that only 2 beings were untouched by the devil – Mary(AS) and Jesus(AS) – he doesn’t even include himself! What greater glorification can there be then this!

    It is utterly disingenuous for this author to claim Prophet Muhammed(SAW) never glorified Isa/Jesus(AS).

    (Counter Arguments for Premise 3 – Part 1)

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  138. Syed Muaz Shah says:

    His argument continues in explaining that the “Torah or Injil” (OT and NT) are “With them” and continues his argument quoting verse after verse that if the Bible was corrupted then how is the Quran constantly referring to following it as the message is still with them. Ok so historical check here – this is 7th century and the texts we have from then are all but non-existent now. The earliest textual evidence we have from where the Bible comes from is the 10th century specifically The Aleppo Codex (c. 920 CE) and Leningrad Codex (c. 1008 CE) were the oldest Hebrew language manuscripts of the the OT that we have – everything else is in fragments and only the Dead Sea Scrolls actually date to a time before the 7th century that can be of any significance which the current Bibles generally deny and only scholars give credence to them. As for the NT there are nearly 6000 manuscripts usually 700-1400 years AFTER the work was allegedly produced – the earlier ones are not extant and there are plethora of errors some scribal and others not. But in a general framework we are assuming if the minimum 700 years is applied to the 1st century we would STILL be in the 8th century with NONE of these having any direct influence on the Bible today – so it is even irrelevant to mention these as they do not represent the actual Bible today. Textual scholar Bart D. Ehrman writes: “It is true, of course, that the New Testament is abundantly attested in the manuscripts produced through the ages, but most of these manuscripts are many centuries removed from the originals, and none of them perfectly accurate. They all contain mistakes – altogether many thousands of mistakes. It is not an easy task to reconstruct the original words of the New Testament….”

    SO the text we have of the Bible today wasn’t the same in the 7th century when Prophet Muhammed(SAW) came. Hence it only proofs the corruption of the original texts and truly we can for arguments sake acknowledge that the Jews and Chrisitians at the time of the Prophet(SAW) probably had original texts for the most part but lost them and they were corrupted as the current Main stream bibles do not reflect even the fragments pre-7th century. This argument also fails.

    He continues his argument on Jesus(AS) being a preacher of Islam – first reference and argument is non-sensical so I won’t bother. But reiterate “Muslim” means the one who submits his will to the One – and Jesus(AS) has repeatedly in the NT ALWAYS asked people to submit their will to him – essentially definitionally become Muslim – a few references:

    -1- Famous Christian prayer “father in heaven” references “Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven” clearly indicating promoting the WILL of God on earth this is the same as submitting to His Will – aka being a Muslim (Matthew 6:9-13)
    -2-“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21) There really needs no further explanation here
    -3-“If ANYONE DESIRE TO DO HIS WILL he will know whether My teaching is from God or whether I speak on My own.” (John 7:17)
    (and there are plenty more)

    Hence he was preaching “Islam” in the sense that Jesus(AS) was always preaching submitting to the “Will of God” and thus DEFINTIONALLY his followers were “Muslim”

    He makes some reference to the Arab Infancy Gospel (One of the many the Christians at large do not count as the “Word of God” in the Bible – yet he temporarily acknowledges it here clearly indicating his disingenuity in his claim the Bible is not corrupted or changed lol) suggesting the Quran “sourced” this story from here – funny thing is… this is EXACTLY hits at his previous argument – if the 7th century Injeel and Torah were true – and Arabic Infancy Gospel was a part of it and the Quran is verifying the truth of this then CLEARLY the Bible we have today is CORRUPTED and they subtracted this Gospel! Quran’s reference to this story only ADDS to it’s authencity – meaning references of the Quran to stories mentioned in the Bible CLEARLY ADD to its credence and not against it!

    He continues to 2 other verses with weird conclusions that not worthy to discuss because it is meaningless as one argument is dependent not on the Quran but rather commentators which I’d rather not get into here.

    His last argument is that the Word of God is unchangeable and quotes references in the Quran and adds a pot-shot saying that “the notion that the text of the Quran as we possess it today perfectly resembles the Quran of the 7th century is DEMONSTRATABLY UNTRUE” is the falsest notion there ever was because we have not just 1 but 2 extant COPIES of the ORIGINAL Uthmanic copies available 1 in Istanbul that can be viewed to the public and 1 in Tashkent and there is NO change – so DEMONSTRATABLY it is TRUE.

    Aside from this as a side point to be relevant for this point is that God promised to Prophet Muhammed(SAW) He would preserve the Quran from corruption:

    ” We have without doubt sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).” (15:9)
    “No falsehood will come to it, in the present or in the future; a revelation from One who is Wise and Praiseworthy.” 41:42

    whereas this was never a promise to the previous prophets and the author does not reference anything in the Bible to suggest it so – infact the whole story of Jesus(AS) vs the Jews IS on the premise that they are “Corrupting” the word of God! A reference in Corinthians (2:17) “”For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.”

    Interestingly the Christians have accused the Jews of corrupting the word of God themselves throughout history (here are a few examples)- https://jesus-is-muslim.net/en/jesus-is-muslim/the-bible/jewish-corruption-old-testament/

    So clearly the Christians themselves acknowledge that corruption can be done to the Word of God that they had BOTH in the OT and the NT – no need for me to prove that eh Muslims need to prove it since they proved it themselves that potential for corruption in the Bible is a possibility and the proof is self-evident.

    Lastly he reitereates the “Historical Record” on “biblical textual preservation” which is quite dishonest about he does acknowledge part of the caveat when he states – oh but anyways “Even IF no NT manuscripts were preserved, we would still be able to construct the vast majority of the NT from quotations by early church fathers” again CLEARLY indicative of human error which was PRONE in the 6000 or so fragments.

    ========= Conclusion ==========

    Clearly the author not just erred but was disingenuous many times and shot some pot-shots which clearly show his unethical characteristic when it comes to intellectual discussion. I have, very briefly, answered ALL his premises and his arguments which clearly were weak as there are stronger arguments he failed to raise. He is an amateur at best and requires further reading and investigation before publishing a critique on the Quran or the authenticity of the Bible.

    Anything that is good from this is credited to God and anything that was in err is due to my own human error and I ask you to forgive me – And God knows best.

    (Counter arguments for Premise 3 – Part 2)

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  139. SALIM HARUN says:

    MODERN CHRISTIANITY FOLLOW PAUL AND NOT YESHUA/JESUS.THE TEACHINGS WERE HIJACKED BY PAUL JUST LIKE ABU HURAIRA TRIED TO HIJACKED MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS THROUGH MANY OF HIS FAKE HADITHS. APOSTLE PAUL FORMED THE FIRST CATHOLIC CHURCH IN ANTIOCH WHICH WAS RULED BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE. APOSTLE PAUL HAD A THORN OF SATAN WHICH THE CREATOR CANNOT REMOVE. SO SATAN HAS POWER OVER THE GOD?

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    • Mark Heavlin says:

      “MODERN CHRISTIANITY FOLLOW PAUL AND NOT YESHUA/JESUS.”
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      This is a completely nonsensical statement. Modern CHRISTianity follows Jesus Christ – The Only Begotten SON OF GOD. After all it is NOT called “Paulianity”.
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      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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      “THE TEACHINGS WERE HIJACKED BY PAUL”
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      You clearly do NOT have any sense as to what you are saying.
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      ” JUST LIKE ABU HURAIRA TRIED TO HIJACKED MUHAMMAD’S TEACHINGS THROUGH MANY OF HIS FAKE HADITHS.”
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      Fakes of a fake. OK if you say so. But islam is still clearly WRONG.
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      “APOSTLE PAUL FORMED THE FIRST CATHOLIC CHURCH IN ANTIOCH WHICH WAS RULED BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE.”
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      The HEAD of THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH is JESUS CHRIST.
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      “APOSTLE PAUL HAD A THORN OF SATAN WHICH THE CREATOR CANNOT REMOVE.”
      “SO SATAN HAS POWER OVER THE GOD?”
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      Again, two clearly nonsensical statements proving you do NOT have any idea what you are attempting to talk about.
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      Well let’s see what Jesus says about himself then shall we?
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      John 8:57-59 57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58 “Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple area.
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      John 10:30-31 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.

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      • SALIM HARUN says:

        1)SO THE FOLLOWERS OF MOSES ARE CALLED MOSESIANITY? 😁
        2)NOBODY IN ISLAM DOUBTS JESUS IS THE WAY AT THAT TIME AFTER JOHN THE BAPTIST DIED, WHAT WE DOUBT IS WHY IS HE LEADING TO THE FATHER WHEN HE HIMSELF IS GOD AS CHRISTIANS CLAIM.ON JOHN 3-16,CHANGE THE WORDS GOD AND BEGOTTEN SON TO JESUS AND JESUS AND THE VERSE BECOMES A JOKE.
        3)90% OF THE NEW TESTAMENT GOSPELS WERE DIRECTED BY PAUL. THE GOSPELS OF THOMAS, PETER AND JAMES WERE KICKED OUT BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH USING PAUL. PAUL BUILT THE FIRST CHURCH IN ANTIOCH AND THE WORD CHRISTIANITY WAS FIRST USED IN ANTIOCH. PAUL WAS LATER BURIED IN THE VATICAN CITY.
        4)JESUS WAS CIRCUMCISED. WHO CIRCUMCISED GOD AND CAN GOD BE CIRCUMCISED?
        5)DO YOU HAVE A VERSE IN THE BIBLE WHICH PROHIBITS GAMBLING LIKE IN THE QURAN?

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        • Mark Heavlin says:

          “1)SO THE FOLLOWERS OF MOSES ARE CALLED MOSESIANITY?”
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          Exodus 3:13-15 13 Then Moses asked God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is His name?’ What should I tell them?” 14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15 God also told Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.
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          “2)NOBODY IN ISLAM DOUBTS JESUS IS THE WAY AT THAT TIME AFTER JOHN THE BAPTIST DIED, WHAT WE DOUBT IS WHY IS HE LEADING TO THE FATHER WHEN HE HIMSELF IS GOD AS CHRISTIANS CLAIM.ON JOHN 3-16,CHANGE THE WORDS GOD AND BEGOTTEN SON TO JESUS AND JESUS AND THE VERSE BECOMES A JOKE.”
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          You a mere man want to replace words from THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD with your own? Who are you to do that?
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          2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
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          JESUS on Scripture:
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          John 10: 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came — and the Scripture cannot be broken —
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          Jesus on who HE is:
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          John 10:30-31 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.
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          Tell me why did the Jews pick up stones in an attempt to stone Him?
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          John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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          Jesus does NOT SAY I am the way at that time only. His death, burial, and resurrection was the one time forever sacrifice for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.
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