A Simple Reason Why The Qur’an Cannot Be The Word of God

Qur'anThe Islamic religion claims that the Qur’an, revealed allegedly by the angel Gabriel to the prophet Muhammad beginning in 610 A.D., is the inspired and inerrant word of God. Such an assertion, however, is highly problematic, and many, many arguments could be given to convincingly refute it. In this article, I am going to offer one of those reasons, which I perceive to be the most damning. In future articles, we will consider some other serious difficulties with the idea that the Qur’an represents the revealed words of God. My argument here can be summarized in syllogistic form as follows:

Premise 1: Either the Bible is the Word of God or it is not.

Premise 2: If the Bible is the Word of God, the Qur’an is not.

Premise 3: If the Bible is not the Word of God, the Qur’an is not.

Conclusion: Therefore, the Qur’an is not the Word of God.

First, a note of qualification. By “the Bible” I refer to the Old and New Testaments as we possess them today and as possessed by Christians at the time of Muhammad in the seventh century. Granted, there are textual variants in the New Testament Greek manuscripts, but the core message of the New Testament remains the same — they are thus immaterial to what I’m attempting to establish here.

Premise 1 need not be defended, since it is self-evident that the two alternatives are mutually exclusive and exhaustive possibilities. Premise 2 is easy to establish, since the Qur’an and the Bible fundamentally contradict one another. The most obvious item of conflict relates to whether Jesus died by crucifixion, denied by the Qur’an (Surah An-Nisa 157-158) but affirmed throughout the New Testament and indeed a cornerstone of New Testament theology. The Qur’an also repeatedly denies the core Biblical concept that Christ is the incarnate eternal Son of God, affirming instead that He is only a messenger or prophet (e.g. Surah Al-Maeda 75). The Qur’an, on multiple occasions, denies the Trinity (e.g. Surah An-Nisa 171; Surah Al-Maeda 73). The Qur’an, of course, repeatedly misrepresents Christian theology on these matters, as I discuss here, but this is immaterial to the issues that concern us here. If, then, the Christian Scriptures are indeed the inspired Word of God, the Muslim Scriptures cannot be, since the Qur’an so fundamentally disagrees with the theology of the Bible.

The Qur’an’s Affirmation of the Christian and Jewish Scriptures

For the Muslim to reject the conclusion of the argument, at least one of the three Premises must also be rejected. As I have shown, Premises 1 and 2 cannot be reasonably denied. What, then, of Premise 3? The Qur’an, over and over again, affirms the Christian Scriptures, claiming consistency with them, and asserting that the Torah and the Gospel (the “Injil”), and also the Psalms, are previous revelations from Allah. Consider, for example, the following verses.

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 3: “He has revealed to you the Book with the truth [i.e. the Qur’an], confirming what has been before it, and has sent down the Torah and the Injil.”
  • Surah An-Nisa 136: “O you who believe, do believe in Allah and His Messenger and in the Book He has revealed to His Messenger and in the Books He has revealed earlier. Whoever disbelieves in Allah and His angels and His Books and His Messengers and the Last Day has indeed gone far astray.”
  • Surah An-Nisa 163: “Surely, We have revealed to you [i.e. Muhammad] as We have revealed to Nuh and to the prophets after him; and We have revealed to Ibrahim, Isma’il, Ishaq, Ya’qub and their children, and to Isa, Ayyub, Yunus, Harun, and Salaiman, and We have given Zabur [i.e. the psalms] to Dawud.”
  • Surah Al-Isra: “Your Lord knows best about all those in the heavens and the earth, and We have certainly granted excellence to some prophets over some others, and We gave Dawud the Zabur (the Psalms). Say, “Call those who you assume (to be gods), besides Him, while they have no power to remove distress from you, nor to change it.”“
  • Surah Al-Anbiya: “And We have written in Zabur (Psalms) after the advice that the land will be inherited by My righteous slaves.”

The Qur’an even goes so far as to assert that the prophet Muhammad is prophesied in both the Old and New Testaments. Consider the following verses.

  • Surah Al-Araf 157: “Those who follow the Messenger, the Ummiyy (unlettered) prophet whom they find written with them in the Torah and the Injil and who bids the what is fair and forbids what is unfair, and makes lawful for the good things, and makes unlawful for the impure things, and relieves them of their burden, and of the shackles that were upon them. So, those who believe in him and support him, and help him and follow the light sent down with him, those are the ones who are successful.”
  • Surah As-Saff 6: Remember when Isa, son of Maryam, said, “O children of Isra’il, I am a messenger of Allah sent towards you, confirming the Torah that is (sent down) before me, and giving you the good news of a messenger who will come after me, whose name will be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with manifest signs, they said, “This is a clear magic.”

One will search in vain, however, to find any mention of Muhammad in any Biblical text. This has left Muslim apologists doing hermeneutic gymnastics to inject Muhammad somewhere into the Bible. All such attempts, however, have proven futile. One such attempt is the claim that the coming prophet like Moses, spoken of in Deuteronomy 18:15-19, is, in fact, Muhammad. Here’s the full text:

The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brothers—it is to him you shall listen— just as you desired of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God or see this great fire any more, lest I die.’ And the Lord said to me, ‘They are right in what they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.

This argument, like the rest, is fraught with problems. The most damning of those is the context, which limits the word “brothers” of verse 15 and 18 to the Israelites. Verses 1-2 of Deuteronomy 18 clearly reveal who “brothers” refers to:

The Levitical priests, all the tribe of Levi, shall have no portion or inheritance with Israel. They shall eat the Lord’s food offerings as their inheritance. They shall have no inheritance among their brothers; the Lord is their inheritance, as he promised them.

Here, “brothers” can only refer to the Israelites. Since the prophet of verses 15-19 is to come from among the “brothers” of the Israelites, Muhammad is excluded as a contender for its fulfillment.

Another favorite is the Advocate or Helper promised by Jesus to the disciples in John 14 and 16. In John 14:15-16, we read the following words of Jesus:

If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

It is extremely difficult to read Muhammad into this text, since the promised Helper is said to be with Jesus’ followers forever and in them, something not accomplished by Muhammad. The Muslim interpretation also utterly ignores the overall context of the text. Jesus here is speaking to his disciples. If the promise refers to Muhammad, then it was fulfilled six hundred years later. Thus, everything said by Jesus to the disciples would not be relevant to them.

In John 15:26-27, we read more about this coming Helper:

But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning.

Was Muhammad sent by Jesus? Does he proceed from the Father? Moreover, the disciples bearing witness is directly linked to the coming of the promised Helper, and thus the fulfillment of this promise must be found in the disciples to whom the promise was made. John 16:7-14 provides yet further difficulties:

Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

This text makes it even more clear that the Helper is sent by Jesus and comes to these specific disciples to whom Jesus is speaking. Muhammad did not come for a further six centuries. We are also told that the Helper will glorify Jesus. Muhammad certainly did not glorify Jesus.

One could proceed to go through all of the passages that Muslims typically cite as alleged prophecies concerning Muhammad. None of them, however, fare any better than these. Indeed, the two I have addressed above are the most often cited texts — the favorites of Muslim apologists.

Confronted with this obvious Qur’anic error about the contents of the Christian Scriptures, Muslim apologists will often attempt to argue that the Christian Scriptures have been corrupted, or that the “Injil” (the Gospel) refers to a special book given only to Jesus (whom the Qur’an calls “Isa”) which has left no record in history. As we shall see, however, neither the historical record, nor the Qur’an, allows for that possibility.

Has the Message of the Injil and Torah Been Corrupted or Lost?

Muslims cannot consistently maintain that the Scriptures delivered previously have been corrupted or lost, since the Qur’an appears to assume that these Scriptures are still with the “people of the book” (Christians and Jews). The case here is strong and the implications difficult to escape. Let’s take a look at some of these texts in the order that they appear in the Qur’an.

  • Surah Al-Baqara 91: “When it is said to them, “Believe in what Allah has revealed,” they say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us” — and they deny what is beyond it, whereas that is the truth which confirms what is with them. Say, “Why then have you been slaying the prophets of Allah earlier, if you were believers?””

This verse contends that the Scriptures previously revealed by Allah (i.e. the Torah and Injil) are “with them” (i.e. the people of the Book) at the time of the writing revealing of the Qur’an in the seventh century. If the Jews and Christians that the Qur’an is addressing didn’t have access to these Scriptures, the verse makes no sense. Here is another example which further illustrates this point:

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 70: “O people of the Book, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you are yourselves witnesses (to those verses)?”

Again, Christians and Jews are witnesses to the verses revealed in the previous Scriptures. The “you” of this verse clearly refers to the Christians and Jews of Muhammad’s day. Here’s another example from the same chapter:

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 199: “Surely, among the people of the Book there are those who believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to you and what has been sent to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They do not barter away the verses of Allah for paltry (worldly) gains. They have their reward with their Lord. Surely, Allah is swift at reckoning.”

Notice in the above verse the use of the plural personal pronoun “them”. The revelation from Allah was apparently sent not only to Jesus but to them (meaning, the people of the Book). Why, then, do Muslims frequently claim that the Injil was revealed only to Jesus?

Perhaps the most frequently cited verse in connection with this topic is the following text from the fifth chapter of the Qur’an:

  • Surah Al-Maeda 43-49: “How do they [i.e. the Jews] ask you to judge while the Torah is with them, having the ruling of Allah? Still, they turn away, after all that. They are no believers. Surely We have sent down the Torah, in which there was guidance and light by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, used to judge for the Jews, and (so did) the Men of Allah and the Men of knowledge, because they were ordained to protect the Book of Allah, and they stood guard over it. So, (O Jews of today,) do not fear people. Fear me, and do not take a paltry price for My verses. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down are disbelievers. We prescribed for them therein: A life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear and a tooth for a tooth; and for wounds, an equal retaliation Then, if one forgives it, that will be expiation for him. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down, they are the unjust. We sent Isa son of Maryam after those prophets, confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before him, and We gave him the Injil having guidance and light therein, and confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before it; a guidance and a lesson for the God-fearing. And the people of the Injil must judge according to what Allah has sent down therein. Those who do not judge according to what Allah has sent down, they are the sinners. We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming the Book before it, and a protector for it. So, judge between the according to what Allah has sent down, and do not follow their desires against the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have made a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made a single community of people, but (He did not), so that He may test you in what He has given to you. Strive, then to excel each other in good deeds. To Allah is the return for all of you. Then Allah shall tell you about that in which you disputed. We order you to judge between the according to what Allah has sent down. Do not follow their desires, and beware of them, lest they should turn away from some of what Allah has sent down to you. If they turn away, be assured that Allah intends to make the suffer for some of their sins. Surely, many of the people are sinners.”

How can Christians and Jews judge by what has been revealed in the Torah and Injil if they do not have access to those Scriptures? Again, the text assumes that the “people of the book” have access to the previously-revealed Scriptures. We go on:

  • Surah Al-Maeda 68: “Say, “O people of the Book, you have nothing to stand on, unless you uphold the Torah and the Injil and what has been sent down to you from your Lord.” What has been sent down to you from your Lord will certainly make many of the most persistent in rebellion and disbelief. So, do not grieve over the disbelieving people.”

Not only does this text command the “people of the Book” to uphold the Torah and the Injil (which they must have in their possession for the command to make sense), but they are told of the Scriptures that were previously “sent down to you“. Who does “you” refer to? In context, it can only refer to the people of the Book. This is difficult to square with the popular Islamic notion that the Injil was revealed only to Jesus and was quickly lost without leaving any trace in history. Again, this text assumes that the “people of the book” possess the Torah and the Injil and that they have been neither corrupted nor lost.

As if those weren’t enough, here’s one final example:

  • Surah Yunus 94: “So, (O prophet,) even if you are in doubt about what We have sent down to you, ask those who read the Book (revealed) before you. Surely, truth has come to you from your Lord, so never be among those who are suspicious.”

This text again makes no sense unless the Christians and Jews have access to the Books revealed before Muhammad. The Muslim contention that the Christian and Jewish Scriptures have been corrupted beyond recognition is simply without support from the Qur’an.

Was Jesus A Successful Preacher of Islam According to the Qur’an?

Muslims typically maintain that Jesus preached Islam, but was apparently not very successful in winning converts, because His message became quickly corrupted. Such a notion, however, is contrary to the text of the Qur’an.  Let’s take a look at some more verses:

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 50-52: “I [Jesus] have come to you confirming that (book) which is (sent down) prior to me, that is, the Torah, and to are permissible for you some of what was prohibited to you. I have come to you with a sign fro your Lord So, fear Allah and obey me. Allah is surely my Lord and your Lord. So, worship Him. This is the straight path So, when Isa sensed disbelief in them, he said: “Who are my helpers in the way of Allah?” The disciples said: “We are helpers of Allah We believe in Allah; so be our witness that we are Muslims.”“

According to this text, Jesus was at least somewhat successful as a preacher of Islam and his own disciples themselves, at least some of whom — Peter, Matthew, John — are contributors to the New Testament. If these disciples were Muslims, why is their theology so strongly at odds with the Qur’an?

  • Surah Al-E-Imran 55: “When Allah said: “O Isa, I am to take you in full and to raise you towards myself, and to cleanse you of those who disbelieve, and to place those who follow you above those you disbelieve up to the Day of Doom. Then to Me is your return, whereupon I shall judge between you in that over which you have differed.”

In the above text, Allah promises Jesus that He will place those who follow him “above those who disbelieve up to the Day of Doom”. If barely anyone was a true follower of Jesus (i.e. a Muslim), then this text cannot be understood.

  • Surah Al-Maeda 110-111: “Call to mind the time when Allah will say “O Isa, son of Maryam, remember my blessing upon you and upon your mother; when I supported you with the Holy Spirit. You spoke to people while you were still in the cradle and when you grew to middle age. I taught you the Book and the Wisdom, the Torah and  the Injil. You created from clay something in the shape of a bird, when you blew on it, and it became a bird by My leave. I kept the children of Isra’il away from you when you came to them with clear signs, and the disbelievers among them said, ”This is a clear magic.”  When I enjoined upon the disciples (of Jesus), “Believe in Me and in My Messenger,” they said, “We believed. Bear witness that we are the submitting ones.”“

This text again attests that the disciples of Jesus were Muslims. Interestingly, the story recounted in the above passage does not appear anywhere in the Bible, but can be traced to the Arabic infancy Gospel (dated to the sixth century) which Muhammad would have had access to. Indeed, I would argue that there is a strong case to be made for literary dependence on this apocryphal book.  Here is the relevant text from the Arabic infancy Gospel 36:

Now, when the Lord Jesus had completed seven years from His birth, on a certain day He was occupied with boys of His own age. For they were playing among clay, from which they were making images of asses, oxen, birds, and other animals; and each one boasting of his skill, was praising his own work. Then the Lord Jesus said to the boys: The images that I have made I will order to walk. The boys asked Him whether then he were the son of the Creator; and the Lord Jesus bade them walk. And they immediately began to leap; and then, when He had given them leave, they again stood still. And He had made figures of birds and sparrows, which flew when He told them to fly, and stood still when He told them to stand, and ate and drank when He handed them food and drink. After the boys had gone away and told this to their parents, their fathers said to them: My sons, take care not to keep company with him again, for he is a wizard: flee from him, therefore, and avoid him, and do not play with him again after this.

Notice in particular how this passage ends. Jesus is accused of being a “wizard”. The Qur’an states that “the disbelievers among them said, ”This is a clear magic.”” It seems probable that this source is where the author of the Qur’an is drawing from on this point.

We go on:

  • Surah Ash-Shura 13-14: “He has ordained for you people the same religion as He has enjoined upon Nuh, and that which We have revealed to you (O prophet) and that which We had enjoined upon Ibrahim and Musa and Isa by saying, “Establish the religion, and be not divided therein.” Arduous for the mushriks (polytheists) is that to which you are inviting them. Allah chooses (and pulls) toward Himself anyone He wills, and guides to Himself anyone who turns to Him (to seek guidance). And they were not divided, in jealousy with each other, but after the knowledge had come to them. Had it not been for a word that had come forth earlier from your Lord (and was effective) until a specified time, the matter would have been decided between them. And those who were made to inherit the Book after them are in confounding doubt about it.”

Who are “those who were made to inherit the Book after them”? Isn’t this referring to those who inherited the books of Abraham and Moses and Jesus (the three prophets listed in the above text)?

  • Surah As-Saff 14: “O you who believe, be supporters of (the religion of) Allah, just as Isa, son of Maryam, said to the Disciples, “Who are my supporters towards Allah?” The Disciples said, “We are the supporters of (the religion of) Allah.” So a group from the children of Isra’il believed, and another group disbelieved. Then we supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became victors.”

This text implies that a group from among the Jews believed the Islamic teachings of Jesus. Why, then, did they leave no trace in history? The final sentence (“Then we supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became victors”) is typically interpreted by commentators as being in reference to Christianity becoming the religion of the Roman empire in the fourth century A.D. If this is the case, why does the Christian religion that gained victory over the Roman empire look so different from Islam? The Christianity that became the dominant religion in the Roman empire maintained the deity of Christ and his death by crucifixion, two propositions expressly denied by the Qur’an.

Can Anyone Change Allah’s Words?

The Qur’an states plainly on several occasions that no one can alter or change the words of Allah and that Allah preserves and protects His words. Here’s what the Qur’an says:

  • Surah Al-Anaam 34: “Indeed, many messengers have been rejected before you [i.e. Muhammad], but they stood patient against their rejection, and they were persecuted until Our help came to them. No one can change the words of Allah, and of course, some accounts of the Messengers have already come to you.”
  • Surah Al-Anaam 115: “The Word of Your Lord is perfect in truth and justice. None is there to change His words, and He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”
  • Surah Al-Hijr 9: “We, Ourselves, have sent down the Dhikr (the Qur’an), and We are there to protect it.
  • Surah Al-Kahf 27: “And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord. There is no one to change His words, and you will never find a refuge beside Him.”

Muslims are frequently telling us about the miraculous textual preservation of the Qur’an. As an aside, the notion that the text of the Qur’an as we possess it today perfectly resembles the Qur’an of the seventh century is demonstrably untrue — but that’s a subject for another day. My question for Muslims is thus: If Allah was able to perfectly preserve the text of the Qur’an, why wasn’t he able to do the same with the Bible? Do the above verses not apply equally to the previous revelations of Allah?

What Does The Historical Record Say About Biblical Textual Preservation?

As far as ancient texts go, the New Testament is the best attested of antiquity, based on the sheer volume of manuscripts (between 5 and 6 thousand Greek manuscripts) and the earliness of those manuscripts. Moreover, the earliest manuscripts we have demonstrate the existence not of a single line of corrupt transmission, but multiple lines of transmission with varying levels of accuracy. Multiple lines of transmission defy the possibility of being under the control of any central editing process. The burden of proof lies with the skeptic who asserts corruption of the primitive New Testament texts since the extant manuscripts show multiple lines of independent transmission. In any case, even if no New Testament manuscripts were preserved, we would still be able to construct the vast majority of the New Testament from quotations by early church fathers.

Conclusion

To conclude, the argument developed above represents a formidable challenge to the Islamic religion, and I challenge any Muslim to show me where I have erred. In order to maintain his Islamic faith, a Muslim must reject one or more of the Premises of the syllogism given at the start of this article. If he cannot do so, the conclusion follows necessarily and inescapably.

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  1. moose says:

    jonathan-if the (un) holy bible is the only “divinely inspired” holy book, and the qur’an is a phony, does that mean all muslims are going to hell? (where the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched–according to the great hero-jesus)

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    • DwayneWayne says:

      God has said (through Jesus) we need to receive the grace of God through Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross; and possibly the more often a person rejects this message, and causes others to, the more condemnation he (or she) receives. According to Romans 2:12, you are judged by the Law (the Bible) if you’ve heard it, and by your own conscience if you have not yet heard it. HOWEVER, Christ will judge all secrets of the hearts of men (2:16). How then shall we avoid God’s righteous wrath without the Blood of Christ for a cover?

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      • Umar says:

        If Jesus indeed prophesided some one after him, who is he that you know todate?

        Oooooo my brother, you still have a long way to go. Clearly there is alot to read and understand. The writer of this argument and its followers have created a point of undrstanding and we all deserve to learn fom it. Just be fair, open minded and you will see where the common sence was rightly positioned. what i can say is that God/Allan in His Ones-ness will judge all creation regardless and every one will pay his price according to the laws, either from christian books or the quran. What is clear is that the law exists irrespective of when it was revealed and to who in particular.
        A few things to guide you:
        Man was created to worship(full stop) not to look for wealth, have fun i.e look for sustainance, because you have no idea where the food you eat comes from. ALLah has provided already
        The last day is there – just like He has done it for other generations like Noah’s, and the Thamud people. So be steady fast in your thinking.
        Hell is real. position your self to avoid it. learn islam deply, since you already have christina knowledge and make a better jusdment for your question.

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        • Daniel D Aminu says:

          my friend try again and going through the beginning; time of Adam and Eve, their punishment after their sin.!: what did GOD told the women above giving birth and the man about farming… you must have to humble yourself and go for more knowledge.. your brain lack much…
          thanks

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          • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

            so do you want to tell us that pregnancy is a curse? pregnancy rather uplift a woman in the glorious qur’an that “respect the womb that bore you” (5:1). also the bible disagrees with the concept of original sin and so no one can die for sins of another in the book of ezekiel 18:20-21as follows
            20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the
            iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the
            righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the
            wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he
            hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he
            shall surely live, he shall not die.

        • Nuhu Daniel says:

          Allah is not God because he does not reveals his identity to any one not even Mohamme. But God Almighty revealed himself to all the prophets of old and even in this generation through the person of Jesus Christ.
          Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9 and we see Jesu today in our vision and prayers, he reveals himself to some muslims who sincerely desire to know the true God. People like Zak Gariba, Daniel Shayesteh from Lebanon, ad many others. Jesus promise to be with with us till the end of time.
          Matthew 28:20 ” I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
          Matthew 18:20 KJV: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

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          • Abdul lateef olushola says:

            please Christians it is the greatest sin you are committing by calling Jesus your lord /saviour because Mary the mother of Jesus used to call Alaha (in Aramaic) her God check your gospel also Jesus said the greatest commandment is to believe in one God your only ticket to paradise is to belief that Jesus and Muhammad (p.b.u.h) and others before them are prophets and God/Alaha(in Aramaic) is the only true God not Trinity John: 17:3

      • sheriff says:

        Jesus taught salvation via repentance and serving and acceptance of One God only. This is entiring into life. The Greatest Commandment according to Jesus: – One of the teachers of the law (law of Moses-Torah) came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” He Jesus answered: ““The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Jesus was quoting from the words of Moses in Deut. 6:4. And the scribes said unto him, of a truth, Teacher, thou hast well said that he is one; and there is none other but he: ’There is no commandment greater than these.” [not even paul’s crucifiction lying theory].
        He says, “God is Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth” (John 4:24). “It is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.” (Matthew 4:10).. He never told people to worship him. According to teh Bible, He said in vain do they worhipping and following vainly the doctrines of men.
        Paul teaches the Cross and the Trinity was formulated in 325 AD and the holy ghost was added to the trinity in 381by the churches NOT BY GOD or Jesus…
        Jesus was a servant of God a true prophet. • The Bible says…This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.” [Matthew 21:11] .. Jesus says, “”I was sent only to the lost sheep of the Children or nation of Israel.” Matthew 15:24. He further told his disciples, “Do not go among the Gentiles, or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel” (Matthew 10:5-6). Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people” [Luke 24:19:].
        None of these prophet taught that they were to be worshipped, rather they taught that they are but servants of the One Merciful and Supreme God, for He alone deserves all Servitude and Adoration. The Quran says: ” “To all nation and generation did God sent His teaching to, via the medium of Messengers or prophets. We (God alone) did not send any messenger except (to preach) in the tongue of his people, in order to clarify things for them.” Quran 14:4. ..” ..”We (God, the Majestic) gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles.” Quraan 2:87
        God says in the Quran: “It is not (possible) for any human being unto whom God (Allah) had given the Scripture and wisdom and the prophet-hood that he should afterwards have said unto mankind: Be slaves of me instead of God; but (what he said was): Be ye (people) faithful servants of the Lord (ONL)Y…Quran 3:80.
        Jesus said, all of You who Submit your will to God, are my true Brothers and Sisters (Mark 3:31-35) .. The bible states,”And if we are careful to obey all this law before the LORD our God, as he has commanded us, that will be our righteousness.” Deut 6:25…. God is the “The Only True God” of John 17:3),…
        In the Quran, God say,”GOD (Himself) bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise, there is no god except He; the Living, the Eternal). [Quran 3:18]

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        • James says:

          My friends heres some old and new testament answers for you! its good to know the Truth! the bible was taken by Mohamid and added to the Koran, since he heard the stores perhaps he might have made a lot of mistakes as there are many things in Loran taken from the bible but from the original texts your Koran has some mistakes. Bible verses below showing whom Jesus was and what He said he was.
          and so if what is written or spoken by Jesus is not true than he’s a lier and if so that also disqualifies the Koran since much is taken from the bible ! So Heres proof!
          Matthew 1:23 – “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

          Matthew 1:23 – “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

          Isaiah 9:6 – For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

          Isaiah 43:10,11 – “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
          Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 – (Jesus is the First and the Last)

          Isaiah 44:6 – (God is the Redeemer)
          2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) – “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

          Isaiah 44:24 – (God created the world by Himself alone)
          John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 – (Jesus made all things)

          John 1:1-3 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made… 1:14 – And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

          John 5:17,18 – “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

          John 5:23 – that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

          John 8:24 – “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM [He], you will die in your sins.”

          John 8:58 – Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

          John 10:30-33 – Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

          John 14:6-7 – Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

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    • Helena says:

      Ofcourse not all muslims go to hell. Muslims who do not follow the hate passages of their religion and live a normal life are free.

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        • Adly says:

          Yes Jesus was a Muslim. Yes he said follow my way means follow the correct path, the correct life.basically it means (WAY OF LIFE).☝🏻

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          • Jeanette Miller says:

            JESUS was not a Muslim. He was Jewish. Musslims comes are from Abraham and Sarah’s handmaid having Ishmel. God’s chosen people are through Abraham and his son Isaac that he had with Sara. That’s who God made the covenant with not the Musslims.

        • TRUTH DOESNT HIDE says:

          Oh it saddens me to see people ignorantly saying things they either don’t have knowledge or refuse to use their brains. To start with
          * those who insulted a prophet of God been rapist, evil doer, approving sex trade, a cheat and others, may God forgive you because you don’t know what you doing
          * those who claimed God Himself has a begotten son. Is indeed the least anyone can ever think of God.oh God is reduced to that level of being the father of a man born by a woman. Even a man, Adam who wasn’t born of a woman, couldn’t be referred to as son of God because His dignity is above having a human child. If he needed a child, Engels would have been His children.
          * Islam and Quran respect prophet Issah, peace and blessings of God be upon him, referred to as Jesus by Christians. The Quran has given better regards to the prophet of God and has a full detailed Surat of the mother, Marian( peace and blessings of God be upon her). When she conceived, many people of her time called her names which were immoral but Islam recognizes her and her virtue.
          * who wrote the Bible and who wrote the Quran? If Quran was revealed to an illiterate, who could neither read nor write at the beginning but was able to do so later with God’s command. Then the question is “Where are these information coming from?” When was Bible written and who wrote the Bible? If God had not made Jesus Christ himself to write the bible or written when he was with them, where did these people get their information from. Bible is just like a report not original. Those authors or writers reported what they claimed happened, even Paul that everyone read a lot about. Reporters can be right or wrong.
          * Quran testified to Touraah and Injeel which were not reports written by others but God Himself.
          * Was Jesus a Christian? Did he preach christianity? Did he go to church?
          * the right question is that where are the informations in the Bible from, who started Christianity and when was church used as a place for worship?

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          • James says:

            Christian were fists called Christians in the New testament right after Jesus death some year later-Acts 11:26
            ,and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass that for a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

      • Garry says:

        Yes Muslims will go to Hell.
        Can any person (all are sinners in God’s eyes – Romans 3:23) ever do anything good enough to please a holy and righteous God? The answer is no.
        Since God must punish the sinner for offending Him (the wages of sin is death – Romans 6:23) and our works are of no merit, then how are we going to escape so great a righteous judgment?
        The only way to escape the righteous judgment of God is to trust in the provision He has made. This provision is found in His son, Jesus. “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life,” Jesus’ sacrifice is the only provision acceptable to God the Father.
        If anybody does not believe this – Muslims included – they are going to hell. That is what the Bible teaches.

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        • Abdul Hakeem says:

          That whoever believe in him will not perish…God is telling all is us here that whoever believe in the message he has sent him to deliver to the people and follow his path because he was a prophet and messenger of God, he was sent to deliver God’s messages just has other prophets was sent, God has no son, we are all nothing but slaves and we owe him every worships and praises because if he will, he would command the world to collapse and nobody would ask him why….And you say in your first line that “all Muslims will go to hell” 🙂 what can I say. May almighty Allah (God) forgive you, forgive your heart and forgive your fingers you use to type those messages.

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      • James says:

        Sorry Helena not an correct answer!
        CORRECT Answer-from the Holy Book the Bible-
        Roman 3:20-25Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
        Righteousness Through Faith
        21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[a] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[b] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

        Bible- Romans 10: “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[f]

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    • Ilonka says:

      No not all muslims go to hell. Not all Christians go to heaven either. It is not the fault of muslim children if they are indoctrinated into the religion of their parents. If they refuse the hate and killing which is a command against the infidels, then they are ok. Christian children who learn another message but also are capable of not believing it or do not want to follow it. This is the free choice we have.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        what do you mean by the term ‘hate’? where in the bible did Jesus describe prophet muhammad as a hate? please stop being mischievous.

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    • bob says:

      You might want to ask a Muslim why they would spend eternity with God? Why don’t you ask them – they don’t have a clue.

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      • GIVE A CHANCE says:

        firstly, to go to the heaven, we have to be muslim. we can’t be a christian. because in christianity, jesus is accepted as a son of god. but it is not true. because, he was a person, he is like us he eats, drinks, sleeps also he is a prophet so he can show some miracles with the help of god. because of these miracles, we cant say that he is the son of the god. also, every person, each of us doesnt want to dissappear after we die. we want to live in a perfect situation forever even after we die. because of the fact that the god knows this true, the god will give an eternal life to us. and look at the universe and look at the people look at the everything around you, everything is for us. the god provides so many beautiful things to us. after giving these beautiful things to us, taking our lifes and not resurrecting us will be nonsense, and everything in the universe and also people will be meaningles, we lived and died and it is done. it is not senseful. also, some bad things happen in the world and sometimes some of us cant take the justice in the world. so, the god who gives so many beautiful things to us will definitely secure the justice after resurrect us. and lastly, if we see the eternal life before we die, each of us will believe in god. so, this wiill not an exam. but we are in an exam. so, ı recommend all of you to read Quran and give a chance to islam

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        • Daniel D Aminu says:

          JESUS IS THE ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN!!!
          for true Christians only.! {no label christians or muslims or any form of believe are save}
          just follow the truth and the light please…!!! heard about the 9year old girl molest?
          thank you friend.

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    • salman says:

      Brother please read the latest version of Bible chapter number 3 sect 15 this begotten word has been removed by your own beloved Christians scholars and the reason mentioned by your Christians scholars is that begotten is a disrespect to Allah and mother marry . Allah is alone no son no father no one.Allah don’t need anyone

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    • TRUTH DOESNT HIDE says:

      Jesus didn’t even say it after all. It was a narration or a report by someone or people that Jesus said what is written in the bible. Jesus wasn’t around at the time those things were written but were only reports about him, eventually all these couldn’t be concluded to be true

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      • Yusuf says:

        Isint it supposed to be infallible? So now you admit that the bible is not perfect after all? And there are additions and fabrications in it? So not God’s word? Because God can never make a mistake

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    • Andres Galan says:

      This is only if you know about the Bible and it’s readings. To deny truth is to deny God. And if the Quran refers you to the gospe, l I would obey it.

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    • Laura says:

      Yes because GOD SAID HE WILL POUR HIS SPIRIT ON ALL PEOPLE! Nobody will be without knowing the truth HE WILL MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE TRUTH BEFORE HE COMES THE 2nd time IF YOU REJECTED THE TRUTH THAT IS YOUR CHOICE! God says to look for him with all your heart if you just believed what your parents taught you or others are doing than you chose to be ignorant and just go along you never cared to really know God and search for him for yourself! We are smart people and we go after and look for what we really want in life.

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  2. A Muslim says:

    Can we Prove Quran is From God?

    Muslims have something that offers the clearest proof of all – The Holy Quran. There is no other book like it anywhere on earth. It is absolutely perfect in the Arabic language. It has no mistakes in grammar, meanings or context. The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars. Predictions in the Quran have come true; and its teachings are clearly for all people, all places and all times.

    Surprisingly enough, the Quran itself provides us with the test of authenticity and offers challenges against itself to prove its veracity. Allah tells us in the Quran:

    Haven’t the unbelievers considered if this was from other than Allah, they would find within it many contradictions?
    [Noble Quran 4:82]

    Another amazing challenge from Allah’s Book:

    If you are in doubt about it, bring a chapter like it.
    [Noble Quran 2:23]

    And Allah challenges us with:

    Bring ten chapters like it. [Noble Quran 11:13]

    And finally:

    Bring one chapter like it. [Noble Quran 10:38]

    No one has been able to produce a book like it, nor ten chapters like it, nor even one chapter like it. It was memorized by thousands of people during the lifetime of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and then this memorization was passed down from teacher to student for generation after generation, from mouth to ear and from one nation to another. Today every single Muslim has memorized some part of the Quran in the original Arabic language that it was revealed in over 1,400 years ago, even though most of them are not Arabs. There are over nine million (9,000,000) Muslims living on the earth today who have totally memorized the entire Quran, word for word, and can recite the entire Quran, in Arabic just as Muhammad (peace be upon him) did 14 centuries ago.

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    • Brendon Miskell says:

      Muhammed did not live a life worthy of God, God would never select such a man as his messenger. Consider the evidence

      * Muhammed approved of sex slavery
      * Muhammed was a pedophile in today’s terms
      * Muhammed was a rapist
      * Muhammed was a cheat and a liar and it only gets worse from there
      https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/islam-the-crimes-of-prophet-mohammed/
      http://godofreason.com/new-page-5.htm

      THere is nothing to recommend Muhammed nor any reason to hold to the idea he has either a Godly man or Gods messenger many of his actions were downright evil and politically motivated for his own power, he was a good conman and that is all he was

      Jesus is both the message of God and Gods son and messenger, he lived a pure life a holy life and only in him is truth found “I am the way the life and the truth, he that believes in me will not walk in darkness but have eternal life”

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      • Özcan Erdönmez says:

        Jesus was no better than Muhammed, sorry my friend… He was a typical Middle Easterner with a very similar culture as Muhammed… We can’t judge their lifestyle because we now live in modern times and have culturally and sociologically evolved considerably, but that is beside the point. You are a blind believer of Christianity and can’t see the many contradictions, absurdities and immoral teachings in your own religion just like Muslims….. it’s very easy for humans to criticize other people, other religions and other cultures, but so incredibly difficult to criticize your own.religion, your own culture, your own country, favorite political party, ideology or whatever…..

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        • rudolph says:

          if these gods or prophets were real my question is where is the remains of these prophets why is there no blood line from these prophets and why is evolution more visible to the naked eye than religion how come is it that a god needs to convince people to believe in him or else face death why did god have to send people to go and look for other people why didn’t god do it him self why is god so afraid of the devil and if god exists where does god come from …….who made god is there a other god who is made by another god where does this bullshit end really ! you don’t know what is out there ,you did not die and come back to tell a story and why has god stop talking to people for 3000 years .if he is so powerful why the fuck do people need to be forced in believing in god. and why do people say he or him as if he was a man .fact if god was a man then he had to come from a womb if god did not come from a womb then he is a bisexual god with dick and pussy.why is religion knowledge is 1%of the world when it never knew about the rest of the world that it existed. ps im a atheist ..no wonder why we are killed first …we are a threat to religion as a whole and that we can proof that the Bible and Qumran are in fact a invention of man so man is controlled with a iron fist .

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          • Arif Rahman says:

            My dear brother, if you firstly doubt if there’s god or not you should first look at your own body. Did u ever thought how u get up everyday and your body runs like a ultimate machine which is capable of doing numerous things.can anyone create a human if the needed thing are provided? Even if we created every thing including heart, kidney and all physical things who will make the heart beat? Who can put the soul into our body? Or is it just a process of nature as u may think ? If so who created nature? As u say every thing is created.So who created it ? Is it god? If so who created the god ? The only answer that I tell u is the god ,He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;(surah ikhlas 112:4)( he doesn’t have parents nor he does have children) . As per Islam guidelines​ thinking more about the beginning of the god can may lead to the way out of islam. I know it’s hard to believe but u should , that’s the way it is .Even the prophet Moosa (A.S)(Moses) had doubt what the god is doing all the time. There’s a totall of 41must need properties of god which includes 20 must need and 20 mustn’t need and 1 which may or may not have. I advice that u should ask yourselves the question that u have doubt. It is said the the one who knew his body well will know the god.

          • A brother in Christ says:

            You are foul mouthed. In Christianity, man is not controlled with an iron fist. Jesus did in fact claim to be God, did miracles and raised up from the dead to prove it. Eyewitnesses are the ones that recorded it. Several sources outside the Bible mentions Jesus. Jesus was born of a woman in His human form. Evolution is only ” visible” because “scientist” cram it down your throat with big words but has never been able to demonstrate it. Man cannot create life yet claims life came from nothing. I don’t know where you get this idea that athiests are killed first night And, your ideas are only a threat to those who don’t have a proper understanding of Christianity. No matter how hard you try, you cannot prove it’s false. If you could, it would have already been gone.

        • jason head says:

          Ozcan, you claim that Jesus was no better than Muhammad and yet I would think you would be very hard pressed to quote a scholar that would attribute anything but the highest morality to Jesus. You would also be hard pressed to find any ancient work of antiquity that claims Jesus was an evil doer.

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          • Tracey says:

            Jesus did not marry any person, nor was he a trader, so……
            They Jesus Christ and Muhammad are not even able to be compared.

        • Paul says:

          Jesus Christ was the Creator of the Universe, and our savior from his being on the cross for us, died, was buried, and rosed again for us. Which is totally proven in the Bible. Both John:
          John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
          John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
          John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
          John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
          John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
          and Paul confirmed he Jesus was the godly creator also:
          Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
          Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
          Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
          And in Hebrews:
          Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
          Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
          Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

          And the only salvation that was changed by Jesus, when he ended the covenants until the tribulation time, was given to Paul:
          1Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
          1Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
          1Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
          1Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

          And Koran lies against all that, and then be aware of what Jesus warns of the sorcery of the lies against him…the devil, I.e., the Satan:
          John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
          The father of lies Satan tried to make Jesus worship him in Matthew 4:9. And then Satan also tried to kill the God in Heaven, the father the Son and holy sprit as shown Revelation 12: Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

          Satan is on Earth nonstop and seeks to be the God here.
          2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
          2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
          And Ephesians 4:4. And also John: Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
          1Jn 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

          Satan seeks to be God, and then he appears as Allah.

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        • bob says:

          Jesus no better than Muhammad – are you kiddin’ me? Muhammad started 17 wars the last 10 years of his life? He supposedly claimed to be delusional and/or psychoitic. Had 15 wives – and took a child as a bride. Jesus healed and helped the people – Muhammad did the exact opposite. You must get that bump on your head looked at!

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      • Nicholas Mansfield says:

        Shalom Brendon Miskell, Ha-Moshiach Yeshua endorsed the Ishmaelites to take over from the Israelites, have you not read a bible?

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      • Muslim Arabic is my mother tongue says:

        That’s why he was named the most influential people in history.
        He was know among his trip as the truthful and the trustworthy before he started spreading God’s word. Then he was called many things for spreading the word of God. As mentioned above by a Muslim. Their is no doubt that the bible contains many errors scientific and other unlike the Quran. If you provide me any evidence of scientific fact that contradicts the Quran I will leave this religion. I told my mother in law the same thing and here we are 15 years later and she has not provided anything. Do you think you can say the same about the bible.
        The Quran was collected in a book a few years after the death of the prophet and if you go read how it was collected you will be amazed. Unlike the bible, it clearly was collected centuries after Jesus died and by the way the trinity was a foot note in the original scriptors. Go ask if I am lying. If being Christian means following Jesus’s teaching then I can tell you with no doubt that Muslims are more Christian than Christians. Jesus didn’t eat pork or get drink alcohol he prayed to god daily. Who does that now? Christians or Muslims.
        Now to the article. Muslims believe in the bible and the Torah that’s the old and new testament we believe that the current bible has been altered and manipulated for political and church reason. If the bible was unaltered you would not have 40 or so denominations and you would not have many different versions
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/theway21stcentury.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/how-many-christian-denominations-worldwide/amp/

        So the premise is faulted. I can surely prove to you that the current bible has scientific mistakes and I don’t believe that God makes mistakes he says in the Quran that good is from him and evil is made by your hands.

        Please don’t name call and talk evil talk reason so that you can attract what is good.

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        • ephrem says:

          you guy don’t be foolish Islam do not have single truth in the hall its history if Allah is the one who love every person how he can dedicate some people to heaven and some people to hell and promise the heaven is the place of sex and drunk for whom died for the sake of expansion of Islam what you follow is myth of Muhammad don’t be deceived because your Allah is deceiver according to Qur’an announcement . why you follow deceiver since Allah is deceiver these show you follow Islam blindly . the truth is in Jesus please forget every myth and follow Jesus you will be saved from hell.

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        • jason head says:

          Muslim Arabic is my mother tongue, you say that if you are provided with false scientific statements made in the quran that you will leave your religion.

          Here are 2

          Surah 23:14 makes the claim that human beings are formed from a clot of blood.

          Surah 18:86 claims that the sun sets in a spring of murky water.

          But, the bible says in Ps 19:5-6, “In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,
          5 Which is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
          And rejoices like a strong man to run its race.
          6 Its rising is from one end of heaven,
          And its circuit to the other end;

          The bible’s version of the sun rising from east to west in circuit because the sun is also moving through space.

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        • fabz says:

          Muslim Arabic…I would like you or any Muslim to point out one single error in the Holy Bible!
          I can point out many error in your Quran which prove without doubt its is not the word of God.

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        • ISLAM says:

          If Arabic is your tongue then you are an idiot. The languages in the middle east are known as Semitic languages. Jesus or Yeshua spoke Aramaic and Hebrew. The languages prevalent were in the region were Phoenician, Sumerian, Aramaic, Hebrew and later came Arabic. There is difference but it has great connectivity. All of these are written from right to left. They share the same Alphabet.
          Now to answer to you the word Islam is Arabic when translates it means “SUBMISSION”. The word Muslim is Arabic and when translated it means TO SUBMIT OR SURRENDER” SO to say or use the Arabic word in a sentence is completely wrong. To Surrender is an act.
          Let us try to use it in English
          I am Muslim
          I am surrender.

          Islamic architecture
          Submission architecture

          Islamic terrorist
          Submission terrorist .

          So how do one surrender to the true God. It is by Piety.

          None of the Mohammedans are pious. Mohammedan are blood thirsty creatures.
          Arabic :Sura Al Anfal
          English : Spils of war.
          In this Sura Allah is blood thirsthy . they attack the Meccan trading caravan and it is clearly said that bring fear in thier hearts and strike them above the neck and crucify them. The women are taken as slaves, the boys who have reached puberty and men are killed and the booty is shared with Mohammed taking the bigger share. I am was born and thought the religion of Mohammed. He is an evil man. Either he is sent by Shaithan as a Prophet to deceive the humans. His action are not pious. he waged war, had a huge collection of sword. he beheaded many. he robbed the Jewish tribe of yathrib and took the Jewish women Saffiyah even though she was married. he ordered his death.
          Isa who had the power to calm the storm, raise the dead, heal the blind said “Those who live by the sword will die by the sword” Look at Omar, Uthmann, Ali Hussien his children all died a brutal dead by sword. Evne to this day the Mohammedans are killings Mohammedans. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Saudi is killing Yemenis. Isa could have wiped out the Roman empire who occupied his land in less than a Nano second but he instead showed Love and sacrifice. Mohammed who came 600 years later put kerosene on Isa Loves. The Syrians refugees are coming to Europe even risking their lives, but not going to rich Saudi, Qatar and others in the region, even though they speak Arabic and share the same culture. USE your mind and think hard. The christians are the true Muslim (surrender) next tiem don’t call the religion of Mohammed as Muslim , becasue it is not. Muslims are the people of ISA who are pious and give right to the refugees.

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      • A human says:

        The arguements are just disappointing since when was disrespecting other religions a form of convincing a person from another religion that they are correct. First of muslim or non muslim we all believe in god and we all believe in a book either being the quran the bible or the taruh and all those books were sent to us through prophets by god almighty’s permission. And if you believe in god and pray to him then you should not disrespect any of the books he sent or prophets! Calling prophets and categorizing them as if they werent sent to share gods message is just completely unacceptable in any religion we are not the ones who judge your only duty as a human being is doing right in this world and following god’s message. As a muslim i believe in the quran and all the books that came before it ex: the bible the taruh) because they where all sent down by gods willingness. I do believe every single word in the quran and not every word in the bible and the reasoning to that is the quran unlike all the books has no type of misinterpretations and falsifications and the proof to that is our quran is only 1 version and the bible has 50 different versions every one of them contradicting the other. The saddest thing is to see all those arguments but no one arguing with proof from the Quran with all do respect but the website you shared could be your words or a young man like you with no education of the quran. The only way to make sure is to read just take your time and read. This life is temporary we all believe in the day of judgement and that all our sins and deeds will be weighed and our final destination is going to be either heaven or hell so thank god you are still alive , able to read and able to make sure you are guided to the straight path.

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        • jason head says:

          The problem A Human, is that the quran directly contradicts the bible and the quran does not offer an answer for sin. The God of the Bible is all-powerful and all-knowing, why wouldn’t He be all Holy? Your sin separates you from God, and the only one that can deal with the situation is God Himself, which He did by offering His Son as the punishment for sin…my sin, your sin. The quran does not offer an answer for sin.

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        • kurt says:

          And history is filled with people who did not come to faith in Jesus until they were challenged with the lies of their own religion. Nabeell Qureshi a former Muslim is one recent example.

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      • saif says:

        All of this is a lie about beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH.Read from Quran and Ahadees to know about not to search what is in internet and find it true. Also Quran is from Allah the last Book. All scientific proofs mentioned in Quran are true now which the Quran has proved long ago. Also the signs of the Judgment Day that the Prophet Muhammad PBUH has said are almost fullfilled and some of them will become true by time. Also Jesus (Hazrat Isa PBUH) is the messanger of Allah.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        please where are you getting these information from? you know what? i will simple refer you the the 100 most influential people in history by Michael H. Hart , a christian who ranked prophet Muhammad as the number most influential person who was the most successful in both secular and religious duties. Jesus Christ was placed at number 3. this is what i can give u for now, but you can contact me for further discussion on +233246985578

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    • Geo says:

      Many wise people have proven that there are numerous mistakes in Quran, the problem is, that you muslims, can’t see them, because you are told that there is no error, but this is your claim only, which lies far, far away from truth. Why Quran is in Arabic, if it was meant for all people? Even thouse who understand the language have difficulties in understanding the Quran due to its ill structure and incompleteness. Why your Allach chose such a primitive way to convey his messages. Even now, after 1400 years, there is no agreement in islamic world about the true meaning of words of your god. Maybe your allach will send another prophet to clean this mess.

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        • jason head says:

          Muslim Arabic, that is the logical fallacy, “Shotgun argumentation” – it offers such a large number of arguments for a position that we can’t possibly respond to all of them.

          What I would ask you is this: there is only a single author Muhammad for the Quran – that means that there is no checks and balances…you either take his word for it, or you don’t. There is no accountability since there is only 1 author. However, with the bible, there are 40 authors, 66 books written over a period of 1500 years in 3 languages on 3 continents from different professions, different walks of life and yet there is harmony – 1 central theme throughout. That God created man with free will and wanted a relationship with man, man rebelled and rejected God, man is separated from God and continues to rebel, God reconciles man to God only by Jesus.

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        • Pedro says:

          in the Quran it says god laid out the earth like a carpet (flat) – that’s a mistake. god then apparently placed the mountains on the earth to make it stable – that’s a mistake, mountains are created by the instability of the earth. The sun sets in a muddy pool – that’s a mistake (and by the way Hadith confirm that Muhammad believed that). The moon shall not overtake the sun (or vice versa) that’s a mistake – look at eclipses. God created light and dark – that’s a mistake – darkness is simply the absence of light – an ignorant man might not know that but a god would. The Quran contains many contradictions.

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    • J C. GODSON says:

      To conclude, the argument developed above represents a formidable challenge to the Islamic religion, and I challenge any Muslim to show me where I have erred. In order to maintain his Islamic faith, a Muslim must reject one or more of the Premises of the syllogism given at the start of this article. If he cannot do so, the conclusion follows necessarily and inescapably.

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    • Child says:

      Does your Allah say muslim should kill christians in order to go to heaven? Can you explain what the ISIS is doing?? Is killing people good ?

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      • Truth says:

        There is unfortunate reality that people following the Christian faith think they are peace loving people. All the killings done by people who Christians is extreme. Yet, you are only passing judgment on muslims through isis(whom i don’t consider muslims, and apparently serving political agenda of non muslims). Let’s consider violence and mass killings done by Christians: world war II, the atomic bombs dropped down on japan killing and evaporating 100 of thousands of civilians in seconds, killing over a million people in Iraq in the recent years, the savage treatment and slaughter of black slaves since the beginning of the American history, the savage attacks and killings of the crusades, the current manipulation of other countries and creating chaos in other nations, the shootings and killings done in America on a daily basis(so far total 2,000 shooting this year – this is done by non muslims). I see all religions have been abused and used to justify violence against others. That is the sad part. What the original Americans did to the native Americans speaks very loud! Where were the ethics and Christian morality? How come different churches are not speaking up to stop bloodshed?

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        • kurt says:

          One of the problems with your logic is assuming all the examples you cite were committed by Christians. When America bombed Japan, did the president say, “we do this in Jesus name!”?

          But when ISIS behead people they cite the Quran as their justification.

          That’s just one important distinction.

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        • kurt says:

          When people who CALL themselves Christian commit acts of violence, they are sinning not following Jesus.

          But Muslims can say they are following the profit.

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    • jason head says:

      Circular Reasoning (to A Muslim). You start with the premise that the Quran is faultless and use that premise to prove it is faultless.

      You mention, “Predictions in the Quran have come true” and yet you provided no predictions. What predictions have come to pass?

      You mention, “The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars”. What scientific evidences are you speaking of?

      You say, “There are over nine million (9,000,000) Muslims living on the earth today who have totally memorized the entire Quran, word for word, and can recite the entire Quran”. This is the logical fallacy Argumentum ad populum. It doesn’t matter how many have memorized it, doesn’t make it true.

      And, you didn’t answer any of the questions posed by the article. Namely, the Quran says that the bible was given by allah and yet contradicts the bible in regards to Jesus dying on the cross, the Trinity and that Jesus was only a prophet and not the Son of God. So either the bible is correct or the Quran but not both and since the bible actually does have predictive prophecy and that the leader of Christianity rose from the dead by prima facie Christianity and the bible is to be believed.

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    • worldmapz says:

      Although I am no Quran expert, I certainly know from research (watching scholars like Shabir Ali and others) who debate Islam with Christians that there are problems with believing that the Quran hasn’t been changed…”not one word or one letter” because Prince Phillip, the husband of Queen Elizabeth II of England is older than the Quran Muslims use today. The current Quran found in many mosques (obviously not all) was commissioned as the Holy Quran in 1924 . (See http://bible-quran.com/arabic-quran-cairo/ and http://www.answering-islam.org/PQ/ch8-index.html and http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/125312 and http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/SocialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Koran-Origins.htm to give you just a few). Here is a link that explains how there are 26 (actually more) different Arabic Qurans (not English translations) being used throughout Mosques around the world (and many in the UK): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoMB8nJWmw. Thanks to the Internet, society can learn about Islam using primary sources, too. Before we had to take a person’s word on the subject, but now we can actually look at those sources (translated into nearly every language) and see for ourselves. It is too difficult for anyone to make claims about the Quran without getting to look at those claims and primary sources for ourselves. People might have believed what you wrote above 15-20 years ago, but even Muslims can go look for themselves.

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    • Ilonka says:

      You have been brainwashed to think that and I feel sorry for you. I do not blame you though and if you are still a good man, then God will love you. not because you are a muslim but because you are good.
      Everybody I know who has not been brainwashed has never EVER thought it is the greatest book ever. On the contrary, there are so many contradictions and so many mistakes in historical and scientific facts. The worst thing of all though is the total hate towards non believers and how to dispose of them. We are seeing it daily in the news all over the world.
      The fact that 9 millions muslims can recite the whole Qoran word for word does not mean ANYTHING. It proves that they are brainwashed. The God of this universe is not interested in reciting words. He wants us to be good people, that is much more difficult than learning to recite.

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    • A brother in Christ says:

      What is scientific about the Qur’an? I don’t particularly think anyone has tried writing something like the Qur’an. And look at the Bible as well. The Bible was written by about 44 authors, a lot of them didn’t know each other personally and yet it tells a single story, with other stories interwoven. And manages not to contradict it’self. Another thing is , Mohammed never claimed to do miracles. While reading the Bible, the major prophets that was conveying a large and important message, such as Moses, Elijah, and Jesus , all did miracles to show that they were sent from God. Like the article shown above, the Qur’an repeatedly affirms the scriptures as the word of God and says that nobody can corrupt the word of God. There are numerous prophecies in the Bible that has been fufilled and some still being fufilled to this day. There’s an ex Muslim who runs a website, can’t remember what it’s called, who debates Muslim teachers because he found within the Qur’an many contradictions.

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    • Daniel D Aminu says:

      just bring one like CHRIST JESUS THE LORD then i will give you more than you can carry in mind… if any in the record of the Bible and The quran that have such a perfect life on earth please.
      hope not forgetting 9year old girl been molested and so more?? …
      thanks

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    • Pedro says:

      The Quaran has many errors and contradictions in it. it is highly repetitive, disjointed and very poorly written – many books have been written that are far more eloquent the Quaran. There are no novel scientific facts or prophesies in the Quaran and those relied upon by many Muslims have been shown to be false. You simply repeat the propaganda without ever having considered it. Just because many people can quote it or have memorized it does not mean its true.

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  3. Özcan Erdönmez says:

    As an ex-Muslim, I’m convinced that both the Bible and the Qur’an are the words of men, not the Creator of the universe. This is where the evidence has finally led me. Both books contain not only many immoral teachings, but there are numerous inconsistencies and claims about the universe that very obviously conflict with modern science. The origins of these religions are rooted in Sumerian theology, as well as other ancient religions, mythologies and cultures.

    Even if there were no absurdities, irrational and immoral teachings in the Qur’an, I would still reject it as the word of God. Why? Because of the ludicrous concept of eternal Hellfire by the “Merciful God”. According to the Qur’an, Allah will only accept Islam as the true religion and all non-Muslims will burn in an eternal Hellfire, regardless of how many good deeds they do. This means that billions of Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Taoists, Shintoists and others will be tortured for eternity by the merciful God. No human being who listens to his own conscience and reason would ever believe in such an evil God. People believe in the religion of their country and parents, if devout “Muslims” were born in China, they too would have been Buddhist now. The same is of course true for the Bible and Christianity, as well as other religions.

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    • Maxime Boucher says:

      I’m so annoyed by the saying that the Quran was never changed. Just look at the Wikipedia of the quran. There were 4 people authorised by Mohammad to write the quran and they all had different numbers of verses. They like to say not one dot has been added yet in the original there was no dots. Does your version have dots. How many English versions of quran are there? Why all the quran were burned and than for political reasons a standardized version was made? Is it accurate?

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      • Iman says:

        Dear my friend,
        Firstable , all of things that has written in wikipedia may be wrong !
        But about this case ( burning other qurans) it should be considerd that
        ” what was the differences of those qurans?”
        And the answer (according to history) is clear:
        The distinction between them, was just in “arrengment ,sequence and ordering” not in “content”. And the reason is clear. The Verses of quran were sent by god at different conditions. ( for example read the “yasin 78 ,79”)
        And about dot! as you know, the early kufi language , doesnt have dot! but today we have dots to read more frequently! do you want to say that adding dots to quraan is Distortion?
        Muslims say that there isnt any removed or added any word or sentence or Verse or chapter! This quran’s content, is exactly as same as the quran were recived by prophet muhammad

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    • Simon Hanks says:

      That would mean we should have no religion at this day and age. Or we need a new prophet.. but wait.. GOD sent those prophets back then (or so we have been told), right? Which is the obvious proof that RELIGION IS MAN MADE CONCEPT TO DIVIDE PEOPLE.

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    • Helena says:

      There are 3 main facts that show that Mohammad was not like Moses and therefore is not “the one”.
      1. He should have beeb an israelite and he wasn’t, jesus was.
      2. Jesus had direct communication with God, mohammad did not. He had it via a being who said he was Gabriel.
      3. Moses performed miracles and so did Jesus. Mohammed did not.
      I could go on but these are the most important.

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      • The One says:

        When we speak of scientific evidence – science is only mans way of trying to figure out God and that is simply not possible. While we can argue all day long – your salvation is not based on religious affiliation. There is only one that is ALL KNOWING. No body wants to submit to Gods Word anymore (error or not so says man/science) so now we have all these religions and people doing what they want to. Religion is man made and design to cause division. One thing is promised – we will all die. Yes, it important what you believe, and how you live. It is important to embrace the truth about Jesus Christ because eternity is an awful long to time to be wrong. Carry on all of you because it is wasted time and energy trying to figure something out that you never will while living here on this earth. THE END. Much love!

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    • Ilonka says:

      Both the Bible and the Qoran cannot be together the word of God. The main reason is the fact that the Qoran is saying all the opposite of the previous Old and New Testaments. They came much later and have the arrogance to say we have corrupted our scriptures. This is the only way they can inspire people that mohammad is telling the truth and we are lying.
      I can also find hundreds of articles that will give you logical arguments but will not waste my time. An “angel” who pretends he is Gabriel , does not have to be an angel.
      Mohammad himself thought he was possessed and nobody can prove to us that he wasn’t.
      When you read the suras about how to conquer the whole world and make islam the only religion, then as far as I am concerned, this was not an angel of God.

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  4. David says:

    Holy Bible is not word of Gad, it is a narrative books both old testament and new testament. For example in the old testament you can read about how Moses died. Also in new testament you can find many paradoxical verses such as Jesus’s ancestry. Importantly, document of the Bible is vague and controversial. Anyone can not claim that the Bible is word of God. Therefor, you should prove the Bible is word of God and then talk about Quran as well.

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  5. Elias says:

    I am surprised you have read the Quran, the Bilble and you are not a Believer (Muslim) yet. Is it your heart or your mind that is getting in the way? Is it the attestations and evidence you have or the constant search for information that reinforces your predisposition? Is it the courage of your questions or the depth of your answers? Or is it your willingness to embrace what it true rather than what feels good?

    God Bless!

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      • Timm says:

        Not picking a side or anything, but in Islamic tradition, all believers all Muslim by definition. If you believe in God and the oneness of God, you’re a Muslim. This is because a “Muslim” isn’t just the term you use for those weird guys in the Middle East that you disagree with, its meaning is “a slave of God.” This means that regardless of if you’re “Muslim”, Christian, Jewish, whatever, you’re still a Muslim.

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  6. Furqan says:

    Quran means reading, and al-kitaab means THE BOOK not books.
    Torat means law not BOOK
    Injeel means good news not BOOK
    Never will you find in Arabic text Torat not injeej described as Books, but it’s put in our minds from clergy carried by mankind.
    translators put words which are not there in Arabic text

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    • Nicholas Mansfield says:

      Shalom Furqan, I thought that basharna means good tidings (S37:101), and injeel; Gospel. Torat is transliterated as Torah; instructions. The Qur’an defines Torah in the same manner as the Gospel, being the entire Tanakh; Prophetic and Mosaic Torah.

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      • Helena says:

        Bashara is the arabic word for “good news”
        Gospel is the Old English word for good news.
        Ingil is the arabic way of saying Evangel , the Greek word for good news.

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    • Helena says:

      It does not matter what the word ingil means, we know it means “the good news” but it is written in a BOOK!

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  7. Nicholas Mansfield says:

    I have studied Jewish, Christian, and Islamic texts for almost a decade in Shabbat, and whenever else I can. How do you interpret Matt.21:43? Although many of the early Gospels were destroyed (Taitan’s Diatessaron being an established example), and usurped by the Vulgate styled Canon, as well as other earlier replacement theology texts, there remains one early Gospel which points to where Mohammad may have been cited, although not directly by name. The Gospel in question is known only from fragments called Papyrus Egerton 2. The context is the well known confrontation between Yeshua and the Tsadokim strongmen where he is questioned over the tax to Rome. Here is where Yeshua quotes more of Isaiah 29 than any other Gospel portion.

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  8. Johann says:

    No one in this thread decided to speak either for or against the 3 syllogisms listed. I kept waiting for a well reasoned Muslim to answer saying that there is in fact a 4th possibility or something to that degree. NO ONE has directly addressed the thesis statement.

    My Muslim friends, you should seriously consider the ramifications of what was presented above. Your eternal fate could very well rest on how humbly you can receive this and whether it will spur you to examine the facts themselves or remain blindly accepting of the Q’uran because your Imam told you to.

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  9. Simon Hanks says:

    The bible WAS the word of god. It has been ALTERED, and made non-valid. Are you stupid to not understand that?
    The Quran never claimed the bible isn’t the word of god. It WAS back when it wasn’t altered. The reason the Quran exists is because of this. The word of God wasn’t out there anymore.

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    • Reni says:

      That’s true, you cannot claim the Quran is not the word of God by compare it with the ALTERED VERSION, how many times has the priest changed the bible? You can no longer say that nowadays Bible is words from God cause human have put their words there, leaving only small fraction of the original.

      Prophet Jesus was sent to straighten the words of God (Torah) which was altered by the people it was sent to, hence Injil, likewise with Prophet Muhammad and the Quran. Cause the previous nations ALWAYS altered their holy books when their prophet passed away or taken, just to suit their desire.
      See the Muslims, wont argue that some of us have distorted mind distorted attitude, some also tried to do the same, altered the Quran. But Allah already promise He Himself will defend it, and He did. That is why Quran is still in its original form when it was revealed more than 1400 years ago. And how can you explain that a 1400 years old book got no error in grammar, or meaning, no mistake at all, if its not from God? Do you think Arabs is that smart?

      If you really want to compare, compare it with the real version of Injil, the real version of Torah, and you will see they all ARE words of God, they are all in line, and bring the same messages: The Unity of God.
      The difference only lies in some laws cause different nation, different era, has different needs. That is why some which is forbidden for the people of prophet Moses then allowed for the people of prophet Jesus.

      Dont even ask if Muhammad is sent by Jesus, Muhammad was sent by God and Jesus is NOT God, they were both prophets, sent by the SAME God who sent Moses, Abraham, Noah.

      And the real version of Torah and Injil did foretold the coming of Prophet Muhammad. How else would Bahira the christian monk be able to tell Muhammad’s uncle about Muhammad’s prophethood when Muhammad was still small kid and Quran revelation hasn’t come? cause Injil told him about it.
      How else would the jewish in Madinah able to claimed that the next prophet will come from their nation if their holy book did not told them that there will be prophet after Moses? But when the prophet turns out to be from Arab nation and not from their own, the jewish refuse to accept just as how they refuse prophet Jesus.

      That just how it is, most human will not accept the truth if it was from people different than himself, especially from people they hate.

      If the reason for the writer to write this is to search for the real truth, and not to defend his ego, his opinion, then May Allah send His guidance, and open his eyes, and heart to accept it. And if its not the case, then Allah himself will judge him.
      I am not here to defend Quran cause like i say, Allah will do it Himself, I am just here cause I pity the writer, he doesn’t even understand which is the real words of God and which is not, yet he say this claim. Isn’t that sad?

      PS: Sorry for the grammar, English is not my 1st language.

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      • A brother in Christ says:

        Yes Bible did say that a prophet like Moses would come. And Jesus was that prophet. Think about it for a moment. Moses did miracles. Jesus did miracles. Moses spoke directly to God. Jesus spoke directly to God. Moses saved the people from oppression. Jesus saved his people from oppression, oppression of sin. See Jesus claimed to be God. He claimed he was the Messiah. And he rose from the dead to prove it. We can claim he didn’t but that would mean his desciples died for a lie. Why would they say they saw him risen and then die for a lie? There’s also the argument that Jesus said that after him the comforter would come. And the claim that’s Mohammed. John 14:26 says, ” but the comforter which is the holy ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ” Jesus says right there that the comforter is the holy ghost.

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  10. Khan says:

    If someone wants to seek true light. He should strive and Allah would show him the path. Religion(s) are for guidance of man to have virtue and success in the life here after. As for trinity concept the quran has very discussed the details of Maryam life and how she miraculusly conceived the prophet Masih and no doubt is left that if Allah can create one human being then He can create another without father. For people who seek guidence Allah says ”
    :
    We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their ownselves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Qur’an) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?”.

    How can someone belive that people who killed prophets and tried to kill the prophet Issa left torah unchanged. And last of all torah provided shariah i.e the law and bible needed torah for the law. Whereas the quran is complete in all aspects.
    The quran provided the most glorious picture of all prophets, Maryam and every human being. It’s unjustified to compare Qur’an the latest, most comprehensive and authentic book with books whose authenticity can not be proven by any modern standards.

    I would suggest if someone seek guidence he should go through Qur’an and if he find the right path, it is in his own benefit.
    Prophet Ibrahim searched for guidence and look towards sun, moon and star and finally found true, so all my friend who seek the truth would find it for own benefit.
    May Allah bless us all and show us the light.
    Ameen

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    • Jaminatu says:

      Thank you for that answer. i had a lot of questions as to why Muslims always claim the bible is fake but now i get it.
      i abandoned prayer some days due to that doubt. but now i know. if they killed the prophets why will they not alter the word of God

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      • Helena says:

        They dud not kill the prophets. How many people tried to kill muhammad? When he finally made it he himself started killing people all over the place! If you don’t believe in him you are also punished by death! Does this come from God?!

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        • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

          CONCEPT OF GOD IN THE BIBLE (JESUS IS NOT GOD)
          Narrated Ibn ‘Umar’ [Allah is Pleased With Him]: I Allah’s Messenger [PBUH] said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):
          1. To testify that La ilãha illallah wa anna Muhammad-ar-Rasul Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah).
          2. Iqamat-as-Salat [to perform the (compulsory congregational) Salat (prayers)].”)
          3. To pay Zakat 2 .
          4. To perform Haj. (i.e. pilgrimage to Makkah).
          5. To observe Saum [fasts (according to Islamic teachings)] during the month of Ramadan.[SAHIH BUKHARI, VOL. 1, BOOK OF FAITH, CHAPER 1, HADITH NO. 8 ]
          1. TO TESTIFY THAT LA ILÃHA ILLALLAH (NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPPED BUT ALLAH)
           Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shall love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. [DEUTRONOMY 6:4-5]
           Thou shalt have none other gods before me. Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, [DEUTRONOMY 5:7-9]
           Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyselfNto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,[EXODUS 20:3-5]
           I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. [ISAIAH 43:11]
           I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. [ISAIAH 45:5-6]
           And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, which is the first
          commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [MARK 12:28-29]

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    • ephrem says:

      thank you khan. you look polite but what you are saying is wrong because Qur’an revealed that Allah is deceiver at the beginning for what reason he deceive people since he is all knowing .please my brother don’t follow myth of Mohammed.

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  11. Jaminatu says:

    I don’t even know what to type. We all have to examine the bible and the qur’an to be sure we don’t rot in hell. What i believe is God sent Christ to the Israelites who had a covenant with him. They broke the covenant so He took away his revelation to the Arabs. The bible talks about history the qur’an revels the future. The bible presents fiction the qur’an presents facts(science) as a science student i find it difficult if not impossible to see the qur’an as not the word of God. if it is not however, then God does not exist. However, i believe in the existence of God and that is the only way i find life worth living.
    search is catholic a cult
    is Baptist a cult
    and all the religions you know search if they are a cult.
    But if Islam is not of God and you are a religious then i hope to see you in hell because Christianity is not a religion.

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    • ephrem says:

      OK all Muslim claim that Islam is proven scientifically that is good but do you have scientific prove that Jesus will born without having father ,why he born from virgin Merriam , how and is that mean some thing is proven scientifically it is word of Allah and acceptable as the word of Allah ? ,the main mistake always the Muslims make to prove Allah because power of Allah and the reason Allah is simple to them to prove and speak proudly their religion and Allah is bigger than human capacity but Christianity teach GOD is beyond our level that’s why Christians believe in GOD that can make miracle which is difficult and impossible to prove by this little tiny human mind . if you prove it you will control it so it is not GOD but it is myth which Mohammed told to you follow by proving it scientifically . science is not the standard to measure GOD . GOD IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF SCIENCE don’t you know that my Muslim brothers and sisters .

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  12. Ben says:

    There are plenty of comments, but none that actually give a legitimate rebuttal to the above argument. I think that speaks volumes.

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    • Stephen says:

      I don’t know why people are following a blind man called himself a prophet of Allah, Mohammed is not prophet of God and Quran is not from
      God.

      God is not controversial, He has chosen his own Son that’s Jesus, If you see him, u av seen the Father.
      All the Muslims will go to hell…

      Mohammed claimed to be a prophet of Allah, a Warner of the idols worshipers in his time. At the same time,
      he claimed that he was Last prophet of Allah….

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      • GBS says:

        Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God. He was a son of God in the same way of all Hebrews designated as the sons of God. The idiom that he actually used meant a very observant or holy follower of God. No one can be a actual son of God in the sense that a human is the flesh and blood of his father. Even Paul placed the Christ below the order of God.

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        • give a chance says:

          watch the videos of zakir naik and nouman ali khan and then
          you will definitely see islam is true religion

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      • Rowrow says:

        And I don’t how you consider them blind but blindly follow Jesus as the son of God, who is also God?

        The whole concept of Trinity is absolutely nonsensical. The forced made up justification of the concept is even more ridiculous. So God send Jesus who is his son, but is in essence him, basically meaning God himself came down to get tortured and die for everyone’s sins? How preposterous. So God creates man, lets man sin then curses all of humanity to a life of trials, some of which he guides and the others go to hell. Then he comes down to take away their sons, but when he leaves the world isn’t any better, same sin and crime and corruption.

        Perhaps you should consider some other premises:

        – Bible WAS the word of God until it was changed. If you don’t think so then how can you believe in all the books before it. By your logic every book after the first Abrahamic book is false. And then Quran came to correct what went wrong with the Bible.

        – NONE of the books are words of God. There are contradictions left and right. It’s been proven that humans could have written the Bible. There is nothing “divine” about it. All God would have had to do is mention a modern science fact. Genes, DNA, molecules, electrons, space, gravity, dinosaurs, Earth’s core, etc. A simple mention of an animal existing from the other side of the Earth would’ve made it seem divine enough. Yet there are only mentions of local animals around Jerusalem, because the book was limited to the perceptions of the people that lived there….that should tell you something.

        The only two things that make sense is either there is ONE God, no “son” or “father”, which would make Islam true. OR there is NO God as the books claim (there can still be a higher power but it’s not Jesus).

        Therefore the Bible is false.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        2. TO TESTIFY THAT MUHAMMAD-AR-RASUL ALLAH (AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH).
         I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. [DEUTRONOMY 18:18-19]
         And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. [ISAIAH 29:12]
         His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. [SONGS OF SONGS 5:16]
         They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked
        me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. [DEUTERONOMY 32:21]
         The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim. 14 The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty; they prevented with their bread him that fled. 15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war. 16 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail: 17 And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it. [ISAIAH 21:13-17]
         For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. [ISAIAH 28:11-13]
         And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed: [ISAIAH 21:7]
         If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever [JOHN 14:15-16]
         But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: [JOHN 15:26]
         Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [JOHN 16:7-8]
         I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [JOHN 16:12-14]
         Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. [1 JOHN 4:2-3]

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  13. Ardesheer says:

    Science? How can we explain many things in Life that don’t make any scientific senses? Besides, the standards of science has always been in constant changes and contradictions throughout the history. With all respect to my Christian Brothers and sisters, how can a book be words of the God when it says if a woman is raped , she is the one who should be punishable because she didn’t scream while being raped? Or, the daughters of Lut make him drunk and have sex with the father and the results are two boys…… If the God created man from his own image, then can we say the God is handsome or he looks like the old man ( which often times is been depicted)? Leaders of Christianity have not been able to answer these simple questions and instead they fool the followers by attacking other faiths blindly so they can run their Business. Have you thought how many innocent people were burned alive by the commands of churches because they believed on simple facts like the earth may not be flat and so on. Still you believe the Bible is not altered? To clear your mind one last thing from Bible: ” a bastard child is not allowed to enter to a church for ten generations….” . In today’s society, 35-40℅ of children are being born out of marriage and based on Bible’s law they are considered bastards. Then why still they go to church while violating laws of the book? Do you believe an innocent new born human is guilty and bastard while his birth was not his own choice?? And this is the God’s words??

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    • AJ says:

      Oh Come on Dear you don’t need to be so offended. It is very common perception among muslims that Quran contains many scientific facts. This perception is created by high profile muslim scholars like Zakir Naik if you know him. That is the reason that made me to share those scientific facts above. I have noticed many times that whenever anything gets proved to be wrong in Quran then Muslim people start blaming or calling those facts wrong which they have kept telling right in support of Quran in first place. Now come to your points you mentioned above about bible. First of all if any church anywhere in the world past or present if ever did such a barbaric acts then it have nothing to do with the preaching of Bible. You have to give the references from Bible to support your this argument about burning people. Don’t make statements without any proof or reference from Bible. Please also provide proof from Quran where it has said that Bible or the books sent down before Quran were altered or fabricated. I’m certain that these sort of blames are made by Muslims scholars to brain wash or mislead their Muslim brothers and sisters against Bible to prove Quran authenticity. I have a question for you against your argument about Loot and his daughters. Whom did the sons of Adam and Eve married with when there were no woman from other parents? One more thing never judge any religion by the act of its followers instead you must read the authentic Holy scriptures of that religion with unbiased mind.

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    • jason head says:

      Ardesheer, you say that, “how can a book be words of the God when it says if a woman is raped , she is the one who should be punishable because she didn’t scream while being raped?”

      The only verses I can find that are similar to what you are describing (and yet totally inaccurate) are the following:

      Deuteronomy 22:23-28
      “23 “If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.

      25 “But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. 26 But you shall do nothing to the young woman; there is in the young woman no sin deserving of death, for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter. 27 For he found her in the countryside, and the betrothed young woman cried out, but there was no one to save her.

      28 “If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.

      These verses are to protect the women in a male dominated society where women had few rights.

      And, you mention Lot and his two daughters. The bible does not condone sin but records it which is an apologetic for it’s truthfulness. Even the great men and women in the bible were sinners, made mistakes and the bible faithfully records them. It also faithfully records a God who is merciful and forgiving when they and we honestly turn from our sins and He forgives based on His Son’s sacrifice.

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  14. Radwan says:

    I have to say that the biggest error a person attempts is to separate religion from science or facts, I am a muslim but I speak generally now.
    when people believe in the bible, torah or quran they believe that their words are true, so they believe it is a fact.

    why do u assume that science and religion are against one another.
    I appologize to my fellow christians but Islam actually preaches people to follow science and better yet seek knowledge where it can be found.
    In a nutshell: I am a muslim, I believe that the bible was true but it was corrupted for many reasons, and when quran refers to christ as a muslim it only implies that the Injil is the same source of the bible and from the same god.
    Also some people refer to religions as supernatural believes, no it is not, anything can be explained scintifically, everything is bound by the laws of physics, nothing just comes out of nowhere and Islam is here to show us that where the followers of the christian faith failed and some labeled science as infidelity.
    just one more note: i think that your efforts to find answers or to discuss religion is admirable but as a muslim I really hope that you don’t read translated s from quran to try to understand it because Quran is not fully understood by anyone and the arabic language is so deep and it is hard to decipher the meaning from simple translation.
    ty for being transparent and welcoming different opinions and may peace be with you

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    • AJ says:

      Can you please provide me the Bible that you referred to be true? Please don’t speak without substantial evidences.

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    • The One says:

      When we speak of scientific evidence – science is only mans way of trying to figure out God and that is simply not possible. While we can argue all day long – your salvation is not based on religious affiliation. There is only one that is ALL KNOWING. No body wants to submit to Gods Word anymore (error or not so says man/science) so now we have all these religions and people doing what they want to. Religion is man made and design to cause division. One thing is promised – we will all die. Yes, it important what you believe, and how you live. It is important to embrace the truth about Jesus Christ because eternity is an awful long to time to be wrong. Carry on all of you because it is wasted time and energy trying to figure something out that you never will while living here on this earth. THE END. Much love!
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  15. Human says:

    Lets us all imagine together. Let’s say that the revelation was sent to Muhammed via Gabrial. And let’s say it really happened. The problem was how Islam became after his death. How the leaders of Islam currupted the history of it all. Telling the world that Islam (the teachings of it) is how Muhammed wanted it to be. His own cousin Ali was fought against during his caliphate by muslim leaders although Ali was the closest human to Muhammed. Why didn’t they let Ali pass the message the way he learned it from his cousin? Why when the planned assasinating of Ali, Maaweya, and Amr, the successful assasination was Ali’s? Maaweya was sick that day and didn’t go for the morning prayers. Whereas Amr, was able to protect himself. To me, this looks like an inside job.
    So there must be a lot of things that the muslim nation were fooled about.
    It would be great if some muslims stop being ignorant and just read from resources other than islamic resources. Because of course Islamic resources would not show or tell the dark side of Islam.
    The Arabs and muslims ruined it all from the beginning and shows that they will never know the truth. If the Islamic control was obtained differently, there would be some light in this world.

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    • Melonie says:

      Theres truth to that .. people ruin a lot of things . but theres really one clear message n thats to worship god n theres only one god

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  16. Maijn says:

    I’ll break out to you straight up. Stories themselves are myth. We have to use or men and women eyes when we read them. You have to understand Tawrat and Injeel from the Quran perspective. Torah which means induction (law according to most translations) from the Biblical perspective is the first five books. Gospel in a Biblical sense consist of the first for amounts of the Christian Scriptures. Tawrat was revealed to Moses. Let’s define Moses first. Moses alayhi salaam is a representation of rules and regulations. Tawrat is not so much stone tablets. Stone tablets are a symbol. Tawrat is actually universal law and order. Jesus (Isa) alayhi salaam is a representation of Scripture. Injeel is actually wisdom. The Quran is confirming Universal Law and Order. The Quran also confirms Wisdom. The Books confirmed are not necessarily physical.

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  17. Stephen says:

    Mohammed is a idols worshiper,if not, why Mohammed leave the black stone when he destroyed the idols inside the Kaaba?

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      DO BODY WORSHIPED THE BLACK STONE DURING THE PERIOD OF JIHILIA (BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD). AND THE SAYING OF THE 2ND CALIPHATE OF ISLAM TESTIFIES THAT MUSLIMS ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE BLACK STONE. HE (2ND CALIPHATE) ” YOU THIS BLACK STONE, YOU CAN NEITHER DO ME GOOD NOR HARM ME. I AM KISSING YOU BECAUSE I SAW THE PROPHET DOING SO. EITHER THAN THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE KISSED YOU”

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        NO BODY WORSHIPED THE BLACK STONE DURING THE PERIOD OF JIHILIA (BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD). AND THE SAYING OF THE 2ND CALIPHATE OF ISLAM TESTIFIES THAT MUSLIMS ARE NOT WORSHIPING THE BLACK STONE. HE (2ND CALIPHATE) ” YOU THIS BLACK STONE, YOU CAN NEITHER DO ME GOOD NOR HARM ME. I AM KISSING YOU BECAUSE I SAW THE PROPHET DOING SO. EITHER THAN THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE KISSED YOU”

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  18. Melonie says:

    Get a copy of the original bible from when it was revealed then you will have a true basis. This cannot be done since the bible has been translated over and over again , therefor has lost a lot of its meaning. A true bible will not contradict then Koran , it will strengthen its words. Which also brings me to my next point, the text you are reading and displaying here is English and the Koran is in Arabic. For someone to truly understand it , they have to know Arabic. This is why there are many classes for learning Arabic to read the Koran.. God said to never change the Koran because he knew what us humans have done to the books before it , such as Torah and Bible. I think you should research a little more and do not worry too much about religion and worry more about finding the truth , you will find your answer and God will guide you if this is really in your heart insha Allah

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  19. Bukenya Abubakar says:

    A Muslim believes in all those Divine books(Torah, Psalms, Gospel) before the Holy Qur’an AS THEY WERE REVEALED TO THE RESPECTIVE PROPHETS but not the corrupted ones.
    Secondly, the Torah was revealed to prophet Moses, Psalms to prophet David and Gospel to prophet Jesus(peace be upon all of them), then to who was the Bible revealed?? To tell the truth, the Bible is a combination of some components of the Torah, Psalms, Gospel and some collection of people’s tales. Since no prophet received the Bible, am sorry to say, the Bible shouldn’t be a book of reference regarding religious matters.

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  20. Samar Qureshi says:

    Everyone looks at life through their own prisms that are based on life experiences and how they were raised.

    so lets find common grounds:

    1. Do we all believe in one God – Most people acknowledge this – the idea of multiple gods does not even pass smell test.

    2. Do we share history – Yes In more ways than one… Adam, Noah, Abraham and many … are all common characters and stories.

    3. So where do we differ… Minor but important

    Judaism – God’s main want is obedience and is very focused on the affairs of Jews. Rules of the game are revealed in Torah for obedience.

    Christianity – As a climax to the mankind, God appeared in flesh. He is big on faith and he sacrificed himself for people of faith. Bible describes history and demands faith in lieu of eternal salvation

    Islam – God sent Muhammad (phuh) after Jesus (phuh) and he is just another messenger like thousands who have come before but he is the last one and comes with the final set of rules for the mankind

    These minor differences are not trivial though. What is at stake is the whole eternal life which is infinitely longer than this one – so it is the most critical decision on one’s life.

    Jewish philosophy would make sense for Jews but its too intrinsic – there are 7 billion people is world and Jewish % is very low.

    Christianity I feel lacks accountability across times considering we are at the fag end of long human civilization – and why god had to appear in flesh only now? and why to reduce Gods omnipotence to human stature? and why one ones then? and what about human deeds? – faith cannot be enough.

    Islamic view is the most balanced and places everyone equal across all times. Gods want submission to his will. Rules have changed for the game of life as humans have socially, culturally and mentally evolved – and you got to put up with the latest rules in Quran – as simple as that.

    As humans further evolve socially, culturally and mentally why did God not send another Prophet? Because we are approaching the end of times – communication and connectivity has become widespread. The need is to control the message and Jesus (phuh) will come back to affirm the Islamic message which some Christians believe will the second coming of Jesus for Christianity – you can believe what you want but I am firmly with Islam.

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  21. Hunzai says:

    Samar Qureshi’s note is excellent. But coming to the point: Is Quran Word of God? Recalling premises given by the author of this blog:
    1. Considering premises 1, Yes Indeed Original Bible was word of God. But the present books which we find with Christians are corrupted ones. That’s why there are a lot of versions. Some Christian researchers agree that bible is not word of God. Just google “Why Bible is not word of God”.
    2. If you feel that Quran contradicts Bible, there are two reasons: Some rules laid down by Bible were for that specific period, while Quran is for mankind till the end of Times. A rule set by Bible may be changed by Quran just like a number of rules set by Old Testament were changed by New Testament. The second reason is that Bible in hands of Christians today is corrupted and altered. Therefore it seems that Quran contradicts Bible. For example God had not said that Jesus was His son in original Bible, nor there was any indication of Trinity theory.
    3. Quran in many places said that Books revealed to them (Christians and Jews) were words of God. But Quran also warns that they were corrupted by human hands, and attributed their own words to God. This is true, when we see many versions of Bible with different authors each claiming that to be word of God.

    After studying Trinity theory, one can agree that Christians are not monotheists at all.
    In fact those premises fail to conclude that Quran is not word of God.

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  22. Syed says:

    There have been a lot of discussion about the prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and The Quran being the word of Allah (God). I would like to say just couple of things:

    1. Islam (Quran and Muhammad) confirms that Prophet Musa (peace be upon him) (Torah) and Jesus (peace be upon him) (Injil-Bible) were The righteous people and those who followed them absolutely as they guided them.

    2. Jews interpreted the Torah and twisted the meanings as suited them. The God through his utmost mercy sent the Jesus (peace be upon him) who corrected the belief and showed the right picture.

    3. Followers of Musa (Jews) did not accept Jesus (peace be upon him) and said things they must have not said. They tortured and persecuted those who followed Jesus (peace be upon him). This resulted long on-going battle between Christians and Jews until second world war

    4. Followers of Jesus (peace be upon him) did the same as Jews. Deviated from the actual teachings of the Jesus and his guided apostles. Churches and priest interpreted the bible to suit them and their interests.

    5. Again Allah (God) through his utmost mercy to the mankind revealed Quran to Muhammad (peace be upon him). Through the Quran Allah removed the misconceptions/ changes in the previous revelations that happened over the course of time.

    6. Followers of Muhammad (peace be upon him) are no different then the previous two groups. Soon after Muhammad (peace be upon him) people of Quran divided into sects simply due the different interpretations of the Quran. There have been several fighting’s among the Muslims and even happening now.

    We, children of Adam, have the same nature that is to look after and fight for our own interests as an individual, family, groups, tribes and nations. we kill each other in the name of religion, tribalism, nationalism but the aim is simply to gain and protect our worldly benefits. I will simply request to all the groups do your sincere search for the truth without any bias and with the pure intention that you will follow the truth come what may you will be guided. Task is easy for us as we (Jews, Christians and Muslims) believe in God. Pray to your own God with utmost sincerity and ask for guidance> He will guide you.

    I read the bible and it increased my belief in Islam ( as revealed to Muhammad – peace be upon him) necessarily not what Muslims follow today. I have no shame to accept that true Islam is only in the books and may few and far Muslim individuals life. I have yet to find a town, not and city or country, who live according to the teachings and Guidance of Muhammad (peace be upon him) not even Arabs.

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  23. Yasmin says:

    I am delighted to see that someone at Crossexamined.org is debating on the Quran. This is a topic that needs divine research and also understanding of the Hebrew, Arabic before jumping to conclusions on the evidence to prove that Quran is not the divine guidance to mankind immaterial of people with any race, religion or cultures. Please note, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) has been placed as the number 1 personality in the human history and Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is placed the third in the list of the book titled ‘100 Ranking of the Most Influential People in the History’ by Michael Hart.

    Just because Muslims are extremely humble, this does the qualify for others to talk such nonsense. Please visit the countries and visit the hospitality rendered by the Muslims around the world. Also please note Muslims are the most generous/charitable humans in human history and Christians fall into the second category. I think you need to work on your further research and not be too judgmental and jump to the conclusion without valid pieces of evidence. Kindly revise your arguments. Wish you all the best and may our Creator guide you with divinity and take you to the Right Path. Ameen.

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  24. Learn Quran says:

    A detailed article and a good attempt from the writer to express their opinion. In order to establish whether the Quran is the word of God or not, we have to understand the Quran in its true spirit and the time in which it was revealed. It is not at all a valid point to reject the Quran being the word of God that bible is the word of God and the two books can’t be from the same God. Bible was revealed to the prophet Christ and it was for that period and the commandments were also according to those circumstances. The Quran clearly says that Bible, Torah & Injil are all books of Allah. When the Quran was revealed, it nullifies all the previous books and the teachings contained in them since the Quran was declared the last and authentic book from Allah. Furthermore, the Quran predicted thousands of scientific miracles more than 1400 years ago which recently proved true. A number of other valid reasons can be presented to prove that the Quran is the actual word of God.

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    • Kalmaro says:

      The Quran says the Bible is true, but the Bible says it is the only truth. That alone right there causes some problems. It takes a lot of work to try and harmonize the Quran and the Bible.

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  25. Susan says:

    I always thought this Bible passage settled everything and there will be no more Bible updates until the second coming. If you accept the Bible as the Word of God then why is there a need to prove anything with an argument? Just accept God’s testimony through His prophets as final.

    Galatians 1:6-8New King James Version (NKJV)

    Only One Gospel
    6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

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    • Kalmaro says:

      Apparently the Bible got corrupted, despite it being from Allah. Which you would think would mean that he could protect his own word but I guess even Allah has limits.

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      • Susan says:

        The Bible is the Word of God that is why everyone attacks it so vehemently.

        There is a synagogue of Satan in this world and it attempts to corrupt and control the Bible in all sorts of various ways. That’s one way you can spot it as authentic.

        Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. What do imitators try to copy and steal authority from? Why from originals, of course.

        Wouldn’t everyone like to be God’s favorite?

        Still God has His ways so you will have to read and refer to the Bible like everyone else if you want to learn God’s ways and look out for all of the false prophets.

        There are more false prophets in some churches and other cults and religions today than there are real prophets.

        You can spot a real prophet because he will usually be the one getting stoned by the world. He won’t be stoning any person in the world. Just their lies, false reasoning and arguments.

        God is love. So isn’t that a statement about God’s state of being?

        Love is the fulfillment of the law.

        So inspect the major religions to see who fulfills God’s law the best.

        There are a lot of pretenders to the throne but God is love so who is the most like God?

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  26. Susan Tan says:

    The Bible is given to man from God like a child is given to a man.

    It is up to God’s men to protect the Bible the same way a father would protect his baby.

    Christians are the children of God. Adopted into God’s very own family. Just because the rest of the world challenges that fact doesn’t change God’s testimony on it.

    Jesus Christ was the most important person ever born because He was the Son of God and the Son of Man.

    God incarnate. The Word of God in human flesh.

    And Jesus Christ brings the gift of spiritual birth to everyone who loves him, believes in him and receives him with joy and thankfulness.

    No mere prophet brings spiritual birth through the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    It is only Christ’s gift to give.

    Besides what prophet ever corrected God and got away with it? God corrected Jonah, Moses, David, Abraham, etc.

    God corrects everyone and if you are blessed you will allow Him to correct you in this life.

    Every person that doesn’t accept Jesus in this life will be judged by him in the afterlife.

    But isn’t it better to be accepted by Jesus now in this life? While you can still be legally adopted by God? Then submit to the tutoring and leading of the Spirit of God.

    That is my favorite doctrine: adoptiion.

    Every man, woman and child ever born is a spiritual orphan without Jesus but under the Law of Redemption God sent Jesus into the world to adopt everyone that will trust him for their salvation.

    It is hard to get the truth of God’s intentions without a good Bible education so I am just breaking down God’s Word for you.

    Pray on it and ask God for guidance.

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    • give a chance says:

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      Susan Tan and others,
      REASONS WHY WE THINK THE BIBLE CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD
      Absurdities In The Book Of God, The Holi Bible?
      (a) A TALKING ass. NUMBERS 22:27-28
      (b) FOUR footed fowls. LEVITICUS 11:20
      (c) Birth of females a DOUBLE pollution. LEVITICUS 12:1,2,5
      INCEST IN GOD’S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
      (a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “The next day the older daughter said to her sister, l slept with him last night: now let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. “So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “In this way both of Lot’s daughters became PREGNANT by their father.” GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the “Good News Bible in Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.”
      INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:
      (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. ” GENESIS 35:22.The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.
      INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:
      (c) “When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) “She said what will you give me?” (To have sex with me). “He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK. “She said, “All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat. N “. . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant.” GENESIS 38:15-I8 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”)

      (d) Shamgar KILLS 600 with an ox goad. JUDGES 3:31
      (e) Samson KILLS A THOUSAND with the jaw bone of a donkey. JUDGES 15:15-16
      (f) A SEVEN HEADED leopard. REVELATION 13:1-2
      (g) To eat SHIT and drink PISS. 2 KINGS 18:27 and ISAIAH 36:12
      (h) DUNG on your faces. MALACHI 2:3
      (i) To eat cake with SHIT. EZEKIEL 4:12-15
      (j) Samson has SEX with a whore in Gaza. JUDGES 16:1
      (k) Ruth COHABITS with Boaz in the barn. RUTH 3:4-15
      (l) David SLEEPS with a young virgin. 1 KINGS 11:1,3
      Contridictions In The Bible
      (a) The “Lord” tempted David . . . 2 SAMUEL 24:1 or “Satan” provoked David . . . 1 CHRONICLES 21:1
      (b) 700 or 7000? “Horsemen” or “Footmen” . . .? 2 SAMUEL 10:18 vs 1 CHRONICLES 19:18
      (c) Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 KINGS 7:26 vs 2 CHRONICLES 4:5
      (d) Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 CHRONICLES 9:25 vs 1 KINGS 4:26
      (e) Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn’t he? 1 SAMUEL 28:6 vs 1
      CHRONICLES 10:13-14
      (f) Heaven, no man hath ascended JOHN 3:13 Contradicted by: 2 KINGS 2:11 Elijah ascended, and GENESIS 5:24 Enoch ascended.
      (g) Jesus lost “None” of his disciples JOHN 18:9 Contradicted by: He lost only “One” JOHN 17:12
      (h) “ALL” are sinners 2 CHRONICLES 6:36 Contradicted by: “Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commit sin . . .” 1 JOHN 3:9
      INCEST IN GOD’S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
      (a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “The next day the older daughter said to her sister, l slept with him last night: now let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. “So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “In this way both of Lot’s daughters became PREGNANT by their father.” GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the “Good News Bible in Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.”
      INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:
      (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. ” GENESIS 35:22.The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.
      INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:
      (c) “When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) “She said what will you give me?” (To have sex with me). “He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK. “She said, “All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat. N “. . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant.” GENESIS 38:15-I8 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”)
      Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ. See MATTHEW 1:3 “And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . .”
      INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN BROTHER AND SISTER:
      (d) “. . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not to be confused with Thamar in “c” above), and said unto her, Come lie with me (have sex with me), my sister. 2 Samuel 13:11 “And she answered him, Nay, my brother (Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God’s own heart), do not force me . . .” 2 Samuel 13:12 “But he would not listen to her; and since he was stronger than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister).” 2 Samuel 13:14
      WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS!
      (e) “So they set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof, and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his father’s concubines .” 2 SAMUEL 16:22
      (f) For other various types of incest see LEVITICUS 18:8-18, 20:11- 14 and 17-21. 1. “Concubine” is synonymous

      and many more…………….

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  27. God is love says:

    Greetings and welcome Muslim friends!
    I was reading through the comments and my heart just broke seeing people being mistreated. I’m a Christian and I’m sorry if you didn’t didn’t feel loved on and welcome.
    A lot of times we forget we can disagree and be kind and respectful to others we don’t know. To my Christian brothers and sisters, please remember to be kind and gentle. Even if you’re not treated the same way. There’s a human being God created on the other side of that keyboard. Just as you may have had times of trouble, pain, and heart ache so have they. Muslims are people of faith, although different beliefs I have been fortunate to have some great Muslim friends. One of my neighbors who is Muslim has two beautiful kids that have often baked cookies and brought them over to my wife and I. We love those kids and that family. If they needed anything we would help them in a heartbeat. Whether your Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc. Jesus commands us to love our neighbor as we love ourselves Christians.

    Would love to have an intelligent, yet polite discussion with my Muslim friends here, I’m interested to hear more about your beliefs and how they differ or relate to us. As Christians we believe the Bible to be truth just as you believe in the Koran to be truth. The Bible is the sum of the Old Testament and the New Testament which are a collection of several other books. While we don’t have the original pieces, we do have several copies or second hand accounts that have been found throughout history. Per Secular historians (non Christians), these second hand accounts qualify as historical proof. I’ve read that we have better historical evidence for the Bible than we do Alexander the Great who we have no mention for 400 years later.

    In the Old Testament we see God creates man. God sees man should be not alone and He creates woman out of man rib. Man is not greater than woman, they each have their strengths and weaknesses. The Bible notes, woman again was a part of man. From there man ends up rebelling and sinning, going against God’s laws and plan. Throughout the Bible the constant theme I see is man keeps rebelling against God’s will and laws. Although man keeps sinning, God keeps pursuing a relationship with them. God has characteristics of a father. He knows we’re going to make mistakes and in our case sin, yet He still loves us. He loves us so much that He correct us. Sometimes correction requires punishment to move and change our hearts. In the Old Testament the Israelites would need to offer burnt offerings or sacrifice a lamb to atone for their sins . Fast forward and in books of the Bible there are several prophets that speak about someone that is going to save humanity. There are several verses in books that describe Jesus hundreds of years before He comes. God sends Jesus, His only son to be the savior of the world. Now as Christians we believe in one God, but believe in the trinity. God the father, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. All are God and God is 1, not 3 separate Gods. The best analogy I can think of is a company, for example Apple computers is a company but has different people working for Apple in different departments. You’re still Apple computers at the end of the day whether you work in sales or I.T. . Jesus is God and came to earth in human form to be mans savior. He is sinless, all powerful, and loving. The New Testament is beautiful, even if you don’t believe it. What Jesus taught can be valuable and applicable to any person. The Bible is filled with a lot of people with a lot of problems. A lot of the same ones we have today. Lust, greed, adulterer, pride, etc.. you name it, its there. What I love about Jesus is all the disciples He chooses are ordinary men. Some are fishermen while others were tax collectors(even in those times people didn’t like taxes, collectors were really not liked!), and others outcasts. God chose the most unlikely cast aside people to be His disciples (right hand men). These men followed Jesus and throughout the Bible we see them make mistakes and you see there hearts begin to transform by walking with Jesus. Not only is Jesus described as being fatherly, but He is relational. He pursues relationship with man even when man rebels, He still loves you. No matter how bad you think you messed up, God still loves you. God says even the rain falls on the righteous and the wicked. He loves everyone. Throughout the New Testament, the religious leaders of that time were always trying to trick Jesus and trap Him. One story that sticks out is there were several religious leaders getting ready to stone a woman who committed adulterey. Jesus shows up and he says, whoever hasn’t sinned be the first to cast a stone. Rumor has it, Jesus kneeled and wrote the sins of each person in the sand/dirt. Jesus repeatedly shows love and what we call Grace. It is not acceptance of sin, but a gift from God. If you remember I mentioned earlier there had to be sacrifice and there were consequences for sin. Jesus is called the lamb of God and our savior because He took on all of the sins of man and he was innocent. Jesus let Himself be crucified and was brutally tortured and killed for our sins. The Old Testament system of sacrificing and offering was no longer necessary because Jesus took on the punishment of all of humanity. The reason He is called the lamb of God. 3 days later Jesus rises, he conquers death and gives us the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit equips up to guide us in this life. God is a God of grace, love, relationships, mercy, compassion, strength, and righteousness. In the last book of the Bible, it mentions Jesus will come back for His people during times and tribulations and the great deceiver who rules this earth now will be cast out. All will be restored. 🙂 Now you don’t have to agree with anything I said at all, but it’s what I believe to be truth. I’m not going to try to convince anyone , only God can stir and change the heart of someone if He is trying to reveal something. It’s all love here whether you agree or disagree.

    From my understanding the Koran has some
    similarities. Muslims believe the Bible was altered (don’t worry I’m not offended at anyone’s beliefs my friends). My question for my Muslim friends which book of the Bible or was it all of it that was believed to be altered? What do you think the motivation was by man to alter it then? The way I see it if it was changed shouldn’t the people be made to seem more perfect in it and not have so many problems?

    Look forward to discussing and learning more about your thoughts! May God Bless you!!

    Christians feel free to add or correct me if I misspoke or misquoted something 🙂 . God please forgive me if I said anything that offends you and let it fall to the ground.

    If anyone wants to have a private discussion or has questions I’m happy to answer them. Feel free to post and we can figure out how to connect!

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    • give a chance says:

      you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll defınıtıelysee that
      islam is true religion and also please read rısale ı nur collectıon please…

      Reply
    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      3. JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD AND HENCE NOT DIVINE
       I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. [JOHN 5:30]
       My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all;………………….[JOHN 10:29]
       ……..I cast out devils by the Spirit of God,…………… [MATHEW 12:28]
       …………………I with the finger of
      God cast out devils, ………………………….. [LUKE 11:20]

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      God is love,
      The same bible disagrees with the concept of some one die for the sins of another in the book of Ezekiel 18:20-21 which read;
      20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
      The way to salvation is also clearly stated in the gospel of mathew 19:16-17 which reads;
      ” And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. ” he never says believe that i die for sins of the world.
      And many more. for more discussion, you can contact me on +233246985578

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  28. Blacksnow says:

    Saints and sciences, which are the fruits of the Quran

    Saints and sciences, which are the fruits of the Quran,prove that the Quran is the word of Allah.

    If we liken the Quran to a tree, the branches represent the centuries, and the fruits and flowers represent the saints and the great scholars that lived in that century.

    If a tree has fruits and flowers, we know that it is alive. Nobody can claim that a tree that has thousands of fruits and flowers is dead. For, when such a claim is uttered, each fruit and flower will say, “Look at us; our life comes from the life of the tree. We feed on the roots of our tree; then, our tree is alive.” Therefore, in order to deny the life of the tree, it is necessary to deny the life of the fruits and to refute their statement. A person who cannot deny the life of the fruit and the flower cannot deny the life of the tree, either.

    Similarly, a person who cannot deny the saints and scholars, who are the fruits of the tree of the Quran, cannot deny the Quran, which is the tree of those fruits, either.

    Therefore, if we utter the following sentence, it is true: “The Quran is the word of Allah because Abdulqadir Ghaylani has so much perfection that the non-Muslims who lived in the same age as him said, ‘We do not accept Islam but we cannot deny Abdulqadir.'”

    That is, we can use the perfection of Abdulqadir Ghaylani as evidence that the Quran is the true word of Allah. For, he is a student of the Quran
    The perfection and karamahs in him originated from the root of the Quran. If it were not the word of Allah – God forbid – the fruits in this tree would not appear. Since they appear, the Quran is definitely the word of Allah.

    Then, all of the saints and great scholars that lived during the last fourteen centuries prove that the Quran is the book of Allah with their karamahs, knowledge, nice attributes and lifestyles that show the truth.

    A person who cannot deny them all cannot deny the Quran, which is their luminous tree.

    They cannot deny even one of them, Abdulqadir Ghaylani; how can they deny all of them?

    All of the true sciences of Islam prove that the Quran is the word of Allah.

    If we liken the Quran to a tree again, true sciences of Islam like fiqh, fiqh method, tafsir, kalam, aqaid and tasawwuf are the fruits of that tree.

    Can we doubt the life of a tree that has so many true fruits on its branches?

    In order to deny the life of a tree, it is necessary to deny its fruits, which are the signs of its life, first; a person who cannot deny the fruits cannot deny the tree, either.

    Similarly, in order to be able to criticize the Quran and to deny the life of this luminous tree, it is necessary to deny the true sciences of Islam, which are like its fruits.

    It is impossible because each science is based on sound rules, mental evidence and logical rules. It takes years to learn only one of those sciences. Only genius people can be experts in one or two of them.

    Is it at all possible that the Quran, whose fruits are true sciences like that, can be the work of an illiterate person and all of those true sciences originate from it? It is impossible. Then, with the witnessing of these sciences, which are the fruits of the Quran, the Quran is the word and holy book of Allah.

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  29. kurt says:

    I will admit I have not read through the 100 replies, but every reply l have read from a Muslim has avoided the authors conclusion….”To conclude, the argument developed above represents a formidable challenge to the Islamic religion, and I challenge any Muslim to show me where I have erred. In order to maintain his Islamic faith, a Muslim must reject one or more of the Premises of the syllogism given at the start of this article. If he cannot do so, the conclusion follows necessarily and inescapably.”

    In other words, all Muslim replies are just red herrings. If I’m wrong and there are relevant replies I haven’t seen yet, please repost them in reply here.

    Thanks, and God bless you as you seek the truth.

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    • give a chance says:

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      Reply
  30. yusha says:

    shalom —quran and torah injeel (holy bible ) are all truth
    because the small mind canot piece together in one fabric—is no error of the revealtions given
    but rather of the individual
    for only the living god th e one true god can guide and teach this truth
    inshaAllah –as god wills so it shall be …
    so seek war and seek discordance –seek the falling of ur own soul..
    for the WORD of god is the deciding factor
    obedience to the WORD of god = blessing /life/good
    disobedience to WORD of god = curse/death/evil
    it has always been this from the beginning
    obedience to the WORD of god
    see adversity if u will…yet shalom exists for those that seek shalom
    as the creator’s WORD reveals..

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    • kurt says:

      The Bible and the Quran say exactly the opposite about Jesus. If one is true, the other must be false. Our God is not a God of confusion.

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      • Gohar Shah says:

        KURT!!!

        There is no such clean belief of God than that in Islam.
        ” Say Allah is One(Unique). Allah is Absolute (Flawless). Neither was begotten. Nor begets. And there is nothing like Him.”

        You will not find a concept of God so clean, so universal and so flawless as you see above because that is His description of Him.

        We shall not associate humanly wants and needs with Him.

        God made man and man made computer.
        As computer (though the fastest machine) cannot comprehend human being completely unless it is not fed by human then how a few pounds of human brain could comprehend a Being Who made the infinite universe.

        Regards.

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        • give a chance says:

          you can watch nouman ali khan you will not regret and you wıll defınıtıelysee that
          islam is true religion and also please read rısale ı nur collectıon please…

          Reply
      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        4. SALAA (WORSHIP)-[ Iqamat-as-Salat]
        I. ABLUTION (CLEANNESS)
         And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying, 18 Thou shalt also make a laver of brass, and his foot also of brass, to wash withal: and thou shalt put it between the tabernacle of the congregation and the altar, and thou shalt put water therein. 19 For Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands and their feet thereat: 20 When they go into the tabernacle of the congregation, they shall wash with water, that they die not; or when they come near to the altar to minister, to burn offering made by fire unto the LORD: 21 So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a
        statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations. [EXODUS 30:17-21]
         And he set the laver between the tent of the congregation and the altar, and put water there, to wash withal. 31 And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat: 32 when they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses. [EXODUS 40:30-32]
         Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat [2 SAMUEL 12:20]
         Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them. [ACT 21:26]
        II. REMOVING OF SHOES OR SANDALS BEFORE ENTERING PLACE OF WORSHIP
         Then said the Lord to him, Put off thy shoes from thy feet: for the place where thou standest is holy ground. [ACT 7:33]
         And the captain of the LORD’S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place where on thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. [JOSHUA 5:15]
         And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place where on thou standest is holy ground. [EXODUS 3:4-5]
        III. WHAT IS THE FORMAT OF WORSHIP?
         Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. [AMOS 5:23]
         That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of music, like David; [AMOS 6:5]
         And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God forever and ever. Amen. [REVELATION 7:11-12]
        IV. WORSHIP STARTS BY RAISING UP ONES HANDS AND PROCLAIMING “ALLAHU AKBAR” MEANING GOD IS THE GREATEST
         Thus will I bless thee while I live: I will lift up my hands in thy name? [PSALM 63:4]
         Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the
        mountain of his holiness. [PSALM 48:1]
        V. HOW WERE THE PROPHETS OF GOD AND OTHER GOOD PEOPLE WORSHIPPING GOD?
         And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him,……….. [GENESIS 17:3]
         And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them. [NUMBERS 20:6]
         And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the LORD until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads. [JOSHUA 7:6]
         And he said, nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, what saith my lord unto his servant? [JOSHUA 5:14]
         And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the LORD upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. [2 CHRONICLE 7:3]
         And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. [NEHEMIAH 8:6]
         All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. [PSALM 22:29]
         O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker. [PSALM 95:6]
         For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. [JUDGES 13:20]
         And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God. [1 KINGS 18:39]
         And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground,…………………………………….. [1 SAMUEL 20:41]
         And it came to pass, that, when Abraham’s servant heard their words, he worshipped the LORD, bowing himself to the earth. [GENESIS 24:52]
         And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. [MATHEW 26:39]
         And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face,………[MATHEW 17:6]
        VI. HOW SHOULD PEOPLE PRAY IN CONGREGATION OR GROUP?
        And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up: 6 And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. [NAHEMIAH 8:5-6]

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  31. Susan says:

    To think anyone would think the Qu’ran replaced the Bible or that the Bible ceased to be the Word of God because some translators mistranslated some words is simply incredible to me.

    God and His Word is never invalidated by the errors of men.

    Also according to Muslims you aren’t even suppose to read the Qu’ran unless you can read Arabic.

    So if the world can’t read it how can it heed it?

    Also why suggest such an earthly limitation to Arabic comes from God? Doesn’t He know how to interpret all languages when people pray to Him?

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    • Gohar Shah says:

      Susan!!!

      God is your Master so you have to obey Him not He is to obey your wishes. If you believe in God then be His obedient slave and find out the reason and logic behind His will.

      And by the way, no one will stop you to read the translation of the Holy Quran for your understanding.
      And what’s a big deal if you can learn Oxford dictionary by heart in order to be in the Guineas book then spare some time for your eternal salvation as well.

      Regards

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      • Susan says:

        Well I believe God expresses His will in the Bible and gave up reading all other religious texts a while back believing that would please God. Perhaps you can get a copy in Arabic if that is your first langauge.

        Jesus Christ came to be the redeemer of all men in accordance with the kinship requirement of the Old Testament law of redemption. I hope you read up on it.

        God bless you!

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        • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

          6. TO OBSERVE SAUM [FASTS (ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC TEACHINGS)] DURING THE MONTH OF RAMADAN
           Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. [MATHEW 17:21]
           And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting [MARK 9:29]
          7. TO PERFORM HAJ. (I.E. PILGRIMAGE TO MAKKAH).
           Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways
          of them. 6 Who passing through the valley of Baca (ANOTHER NAME FOR MAKKAH) make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools. 7 They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God. 8 O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer: give ear, O God of Jacob. Selah. [PSALM 84:4-8]
           In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD. 20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them. [ISAIAH 19:19-20]
           9
          After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all
          nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and
          before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried
          with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and
          unto the Lamb. [REVELATION 7:9-10]

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  32. Abby says:

    Both the Qu’ran and bible have parts that may seem harsh. But between the 2, the Qu’ran is harsher. Especially when it comes to their ‘peace’ and their special treatment for women. I agree there are also some amount of sexism in some parts of the bible but this one in the Qu’ran is quiet strange. I witnessed this muslim guy beat up his wife for I didn’t care about and when the neighbors decided to report the guy, the woman defended that it accepted in the Qu’ran. At first I thought she was crazy. I didn’t want to jump into conclusion so I found this Muslim who explained it to be symbolic beating which is supposed to be done with toothbrush or small stick and there shouldn’t be injury. Funny enough, the extent was not added in the Qu’ran when I check it up. Why do you have to hit her in the first place? I understand that some things in both the Bible and Qu’ran were more of ancient culture than religion but hey, the fact there is some ‘explanation’ to the word beating makes it religious. I am saying this because domestic violence against women are popular with Muslims, in the name of this pathetic excuse and moreover no limit was stated. I have stayed with muslims for about 10 years so I know what I am saying. They are very kind especially to fellow Muslims but in terms of peace, they are only peaceful when they are the minority. At least, the Jesus did not teach violence nor wife beating.

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    • Gohar Shah says:

      ABBY!!!
      Come on. Don’t be biased against something you don’t know. There is nothing in the Holy Quran that wives should be treated with physical torture and kindly don’t preach this. Check the Hinduism where women were burned after they their husband would die.
      Our prophet Mohammad (SAW) was a live version of the Holy Quran. Bring me a single evidence that he tortured any of his wives physically rather his in his last sermon, he ordered Muslims to treat their wives with love and affection.

      I advise you to study Islam thoroughly rather than the so called Muslims of the day and even human being is by far corrupted thus you will hardly find a faithful person to their religion and beliefs so do some or many of the Muslims as well but Islam doesn’t teaches that.

      Regards

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        5. . TO PAY ZAKAT (CHERITY)
        And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins [1 PETER 4:8]

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    • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

      Abby and others, let us look at how the bible treat women
      1. a woman cause sin to enter the world. [genesis 3]
      2. women are being perceived as evil and hence are placed below men. there fore they are called daughters of men and not daughters of God. [genesis 6]
      3. a woman gets no inheritance if there brothers. [numbers 27:8]
      4. a woman who even inherit cannot marry outside her father’s family.[numbers 36:6-8]
      5. the vow of a woman can be cancelled by either the father [numbers 30:6] or her husband [numbers 30:14]
      6. a woman is guilty until she is proven innocent through
      a. bitter water test for adultery [ numbers 5:11-31]
      b. father’s testimony of her virginity [Deuteronomy 22:13-21]
      7. rape of a lady [Deuteronomy 22:28-29]
      8. women are not allowed to speak in public [1 Corinthian 14:34] and [1 timothy 2:11-12]
      and many more……….

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  33. Africa says:

    God is ONE ….No ONE has ever seen Him and both the holy bible and the noble Qur’an warns us to worship something or to a seen god and to have other lord besides Him Alone the Lord of the Throne Who was there at the Beginning of the Beginning of the Beginning of the Beginning Only Him we shall bow down..Indeed our Lord our God Allah is One Who has no blood nor flesh who does not eat nor get hungry and thirsty Allah is most High

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  34. Gohar Shah says:

    “Little knowledge is a dangerous thing.” The promises made by the writer of the script are purely based on mediocrity and lack of knowledge about Islam, Christianity and Judaism. I won’t write much as my view won’t turn on the dumb, deaf and the blind who has a stamp on their hearts and who even after reading the Holy Quran, remained unchanged. I hope my simple view would help the followers of the writer in order to retrospect.
    Why God sent the Holy books to human being?
    When Adam knew that God is One then why many turned polytheist and his coming generation?
    Why lesson after the lesson?
    The answer is that human mind has got a scrap memory and as they forgot that their father Adam was descended from heaven, the same way they forget the words of God and the Holy Bible has unfortunately got fingers of the human being as the holy Torah got before the holy Bible.

    THE HOLY QURAN HAS REFORMED WHAT WERE WRONGLY PRESENTED AND MISINTERPRETED BY MANY IN THE HOLY TORAH, THE HOLY BIBLE AND THE PALMS.

    Regards.

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  35. saif says:

    Quran is the last book from Allah. It is true book without any doubt. Bible is not in its orignal form. You can see every day new editions of bible comes but Quran is in its orignal form and no corruption is in it. It is the book in its orignal form. So Quran is the word of God that is Allah. Dont make false proofs by yourself. Anyone who wants to know about Islam should read the Quran and Ahadees, do not see these types of posts where they make things by themselves and Jesus(Hazrat Isa PBUH) is the messanger of Allah. we respect him and he is not the son of God. Also he is not God but the creation of God that is Allah. Allah is the only God. no God except Allah

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  36. Terry Lewis says:

    One quick question for my Muslim friends… Exactly when was the Bible corrupted?

    If you claim that it happened before Mohammed lived, then please explain why Mohammed and Allah endorsed a corrupted document in the Quran.

    If you claim that it happened since the time of Mohammed, please explain how the manuscripts we have that were written long before Mohammed lived AGREE with the documents we use today.

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  37. Religion in your face says:

    1. The Quran does not tell Muhammed anywhere to “When in doubt…..” .
    2. The Quran does not say Psalms. It says Zaboor which people just think with no basis is Psalms just because apparently David wrote Psalms.
    3. Quran does not speak about the Bible. It speaks of the Gospel which is not in the Bible.
    4. The Torah is not in the Bible. The pentateuch is not the Torah. That is also what some people think with no basis. And it has been proven that Moses did not write the Torah but 4 different schools of thought. Do some research on the Documentary Hypothesis.
    5. You said Quran speaks of the old and new testament in 7:157. Does it say old testament? Does it say new testament? No. It says taurat and injeel which are not in the Bible.
    6. Of course the Quran denies Jesus was son of God. If you believe Jesus is the son of God, so must be ephraim. Actually he was Prototokos, the eldest. Then he must be Jesus’s elder brother.
    7. And of course the Quran denies the trinity. Through the bible you can only prove a bit of binetarianism, not the trinity.
    8. The only verse that had the trinity was 1 John 5:7 which has been taken away because it was a lie someone entered into the Bible. Older bibles dont have it.

    The bible is a collection of 75, 73, 66, or 80 something books depending on the version. It is not the Injeel or the Torah.

    Nevertheless it has been proven by scholars, not just laymen who write articles that the four gospels in the canon were never written by those names, they were never called Gospels, that is a concocted name, and no one knows who wrote them.

    Codex Sinaiticus has Shepard of Hermas and Epistle of Barnabus. Codex Alexandrinus has two letters of clement. This was the oldest canon of the Bible which later Christians threw away.

    So many stories concocted and put into the Bible. Four central concepts attributed to Jesus are forgeries added to the Gospel of Luke

    •Appearance to his disciples
    •Jesus dying for the sins of humanity
    •His ascension to heaven
    •Disciples worshiping him while he ascends

    HUMAN ADDITIONS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

    The story of the adulterous woman

    Any Christian or anyone who has at least watched TV would recollect the woman of adultery and the wisdom of Jesus Christ that saved her from being stoned. This appears in the 7th and 8th chapters of the Gospel of John. This story was not in the bible but added later by human intervention.

    “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”

    This is probably one of the most known quotes from the bible and it is not easy for anyone tobelieve that this whole story (John, Chapter 7:53-8:11) was never in the older bibles but added later on by some scribe. In the earliest manuscripts of the bible the verses depicting the story of the adulterous woman is not available. A simple comparison between the King James Version and the New International Version (NIV) of the bible would portray this fact.

    Why would any scribe need to insert a story of this nature to the bible? Yes, that is a pertinent question.

    Though through time the world has forgotten the importance given to Mary Magdalene in the early periods of Christianity, Mary Magdalene was known to have been Jesus’ partner. This is a debated fact but the story above is attributed Mary Magdalene, probably with the purpose of turning her into a reformed prostitute. This was probably done by scribes intentionally to phase away the idea of Jesus having an earthly partner.

    One of the Gospels thrown away at the council of Nicea was the Gospel according to phillip which has a verse that indicates Jesus to have coveted Mary. In fact, Gospel of Peter, Mary Magdalene and Thomas are all of this claim.

    A woman who has not given birth to children may become a mother of angels. Such a woman was Mary Magdalene, a companion of the Son. The Lord loved her more than He loved all other disciples and oft en kissed her on her mouth. The other disciples, seeing Him loving Mary, said, “Why do You love her more than us?”. Answering them, He said, “Why do I not love you as her?”. – Phillip verse 55

    The four canonised Gospels in the bible does not directly voice Jesus to have a relationship with Mary but does not negate it either. She was the one most concerned about him, first to meet him upon his return after the alleged crucifixion and she leads the female disciples.

    Be it fact or fiction, the question naturally raised is, why would scribes add such a story by hand? Biblical scholars largely concur with the reality of this story being a concoction.

    Speaking in new tongues and performing miracles

    The famous declarationof Jesus thatpeoplewill perform miracles inhis name and speaking in new tongues etc did not happen. It was not in the bible originally but added later and used by many Christians to justify their evangelistic missions, miraculous healing and other practices.

    He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

    The above verses and the surrounding story of Jesus going to his 11 disciples werehumaninnovations notcontainedinthe oldmanuscripts(Mark, chapter 16, verses 9-20).

    Jim Jones, the founder of a group called “Peoples Temple” and followers drank cyanide and perished due the belief in these verses. It was entered into the Guinness book of world records for the largest mass suicide with 909 peopleincluding300 childrendyinginbelief ofa scripturalpassage concocted by scribes with agendas, verses that never existed in the bible.

    The Trinity creed

    The most important doctrine in Christendom is the doctrine of the Trinity, Father, the word and the Holy Spirit. People will find it impossible to believe that this is not in the bible.

    But then again it is there in the 1st epistle of John, chapter 5, verses 7 and 8. This is human addition.

    •For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
    •And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. – King James version

    This was an erroneous and probably an intentional addition to promote the doctrine of the Trinity. The actual text according to Codex Sinaiticus which is probably the oldest manuscript found has the following.

    •For they that testify are three,
    •The Spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are one.

    The verses also differ in the New International Version which was also translated according to ancient manuscripts.

    •For there are three that testify:
    •The Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

    I believe any reader could easily comprehend that the trinity verse was concocted intheKing JamesVersionandlatertakenout by Christianscholars after identifying the concerned verse as a fabrication.

    Who wrote the Pentateuch?

    Pentateuch is a name given to the first 5 books of the bible also referred to as the Torah. This is the scripture of the Jews and the most important book of the Old Testament for the Christians. The Torah contains most of the stories we have seen in movies, heard of and relived all our lives.

    It is a general contention of most Christians that Moses wrote the Torah himself. But a simple read through the scripture will show otherwise.

    Can a dead man write?

    The most significant verse that breaks the contention of Moses’ authorship is one of the last verses in the Torah.

    •And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength gone. The Israelites grieved for Moses inthe plains of Moabthirtydays, until the timeof weeping and mourning was over. – Deuteronomy 34:5 – 8

    It is impossible for Moses to write his own eulogy as above declaring that his body was never found. This in fact clearly indicates that a third party wrote the book and also that it was long after Moses passed away. In fact recent studies show that there could have been at least 4 different authors of the Torah due to the textual style, reference to God etc. Yahweh, Elohim and Adonai are some of the significant words used to refer to God and the writers completely differ in reference to God, nature of God and agenda. It is a basic argument that if it was God who dictated all texts in the bible, the style of writing, his own nature or name will have the same nature.

    This analysis is very basic and deeper studies have been made which would take a whole report to elucidate. The bible is one of the most important books in the world which is dear to any theologian or any Christian. But the acceptance of its nature is important because it is then, that humans could make intelligent choices and understand the fact that that the books do contain God’s word but every passage cannot be accepted as God’s direct word.

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  38. Sunday says:

    For me I don’t need any religion to tell me what his good or bad, because naturally without religion we can know what is good and bad, but for those of you who claims that the bible and quran are from God, my question to you his these, Can you tell me who are you, where are you when your mum and dad have not known themselves, even talking of having sex before your mother taking your dad spam, before the spam turnout to be you. And can you please tell me how many people on earth are made up sand or dust.

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  39. Jezic says:

    Ignorance is a big disease, will you ask your self how Mohamed came about?
    research the history about Mohamed you will find out how Satan used him to
    destroy the plan of God for man kind after 600 years Jesus have established His
    Church rooted from Judaism and you wont be ashamed to take up the cross for
    your salvation. Read then. I will here your testimony

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  40. TRUTH DOESNT HIDE says:

    If you truly want to know depth knowledge of the prophet Muhammed, S A W, please look for true original and authentic books on him to read and stop fabricating lies about him.
    Again, the Quran indeed is revealed to to testify Injeel and Touraah, from God and not a narration or report written by men about God. What Quran agrees to is original writings of God and not what people said or narrated. Quran does not support the authored or written bible of the men of the world.
    Please my dear ones, I think we are all arguing and not insulting. Please let’s respect ourselves and our religions. We must respect elders and other people even if we think they are not prophets of God. No religion will teach you to insult innocent people. Please let’s be wise and be humble

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    • Susan says:

      If you want to know God personally then pick up a copy of the Bible in any language you can read and read His Words.

      Jesus Christ adopts all who love and receive him as the Son of God into the family of God.

      Then you won’t have to practice jihad to go to heaven.

      You will be a member of God’s very own family if you read and accept what it says to do in Romans 10:9.

      Fear God not what this world will do when you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior because God controls the whole world and Jesus Christ and the Father are One. God says so Himself in the pages of the Bible.

      The real thing is a relationship with God. The thing most worth having in this lifetime is a relationship with God.

      If you don’t have a real relationship with God then you are in a weak substitute the world terms “religion”.

      Read the Gospels and accept Jesus and he will lead you into the very family of God for all eternity.

      Thanks for reading and May Jesus’ Love, Joy, Grace and Peace Abound to You! And it will if you get to know Jesus from the 4 Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Remember Jesus walks beside you in times of tribulation and testing. Like he did with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace.

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      • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

        Susan,
        i picked up a bible to read as you proposed and a found the following attributes of GOD:
        Qualities ill-befitting God –
        (a) A “hissing” God (?) ISAIAH 5:26, 7:18, ZECHARIAH 10:8
        (b) A “roaring” God (?) ISAIAH 42:13, JEREMIAH 25:30
        (c) A “barber” God (?) ISAIAH 7:20
        (d) A “penitent” God (?) JEREMIAH 15:6, GENESIS 6:6
        (e) A God “riding” a cherub (?) 2 SAMUEL 22:11
        (f) A God murders 50,070 for looking into a box (?) 1 SAMUEL 6:1
        In Arabic, Hebrew and Greek there
        is no differentiation between a capital “G” for God, and a small “g”
        for god, as in the languages of the Western countries today; yet the
        Christians have played fast and loose when translating the Bible, i.e.
        (a) “In whom the god (the Devil) of this world hath blinded the
        minds of them which believe not . . . ” 2 COR. 4:4
        (b) “And the Lord said unto Moses, See, 1 have made thee a god
        to Pharaoh, and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.”
        EXODUS 7:1
        Compare the above with JOHN 1:1, where the Christians have used
        capital “G”‘s and “W”‘s when referring to Jesus.
        His contradictory attributes –
        (a) “No man hath seen God at any time” JOHN 1:18
        (b) “(God) whom no man hath seen, nor can see …” 1 TIMOTHY 6:16
        (c) “And he (God) said, Thou canst see my face: for there shall
        no man see me, and live.” EXODUS 33:20
        Contradicted by:
        (a) “And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man
        speaketh unto his friend.” EXODUS 33:11
        (b) “And they (Moses, Aaron and seventy others) saw the God of
        Israel . . .” EXODUS 24:10
        (c) “And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have
        seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” GENESIS 32:30
        And as a special favour God shows his back parts to Moses:
        “And I (God) will take away my hand and thou shalt see my
        back parts . . .” EXODUS 33:23
        Is not a fabricator of confusion –
        (a) “For God is NOT the author of confusion . . .” 1 CORINTHIANS
        14:33
        Contradicted by:
        (a) “. . . I make peace, and CREATE EVIL . . .” ISAIAH 45:7
        (b) “But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and AN EVIL
        SPIRIT from the Lord troubled him.” 1 SAMUEL 16:14
        (c) “And for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion,
        that they should BELIEVE A LIE.” 2 THESSALONIANS 2:11
        Further contradictory qualities –
        (a) GOD AS AN OMNIPOTENT BEING:
        “And Jesus saith . . . for with God ALL THINGS are
        possible.” MARK 10:27, also MATTHEW 19:26
        Contradicted by:
        “And the Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the
        inhabitants of the mountain; but COULD NOT drive out the
        inhabitants of the valley, because they had CHARIOTS OF
        IRON.” JUDGES 1:19
        (b) GOD’S ANGER ABIDETH FOR A MINUTE:
        “For his (God’s) anger endureth but a MOMENT.” PSALMS 30:5
        Contradicted by:
        “And the Lord’s anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them (the Jews) wander in the wilderness FORTY YEARS . . .” NUMBERS 32:13
        (c) GOD DOES NOT SHOW ANY SELF-REPROACH:
        “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should REPENT . . .” NUMBERS 23:19
        Contradicted by:
        “. . . and the Lord REPENTED that he made Saul king over Israel.” 1 SAMUEL 15:35
        Also: “And the Lord REPENTED of the evil which he thought to
        do unto his people (Israel).” EXODUS 32:14
        (d) GOD’S MERCY ENDURETH FOR EVER:
        “For the Lord is good; and his mercy is EVERLASTING.” PSALMS 100:5
        Contradicted by:
        “I (God) remember that which Amalek did to Israel (four
        hundred years before) . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and
        UTTERLY DESTROY ALL they have, and spare them not;
        but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, and
        sheep, camel and ass (the donkey).” 1 SAMUEL 15:3
        (e) GOD DWELLS IN LIGHT:
        “. . . (God) dwelling in the LIGHT which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see . . .” 1 TIMOTHY 6:16
        Contradicted by:
        “Then spake Solomon, the Lord said that he would dwell in
        the THICK DARKNESS.” 1 KINGS 8:12
        (f) GOD DOES NOT ENTICE MAN:
        “Let no man say he is tempted, I am TEMPTED of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, NEITHER TEMPTETH he any man.” JAMES 1:13
        Contradicted by:
        “And it came to pass after these things, that God DID
        TEMPT Abraham . . .” GENESIS 22:1

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        • ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

          Susan,
          I also read about Jesus christ in the bible and i found the following:
          JESUS CHRIST IN THE BIBLE
          1. HIS FIRST MIRACLE IN THE HOLY BIBLE AND THE HOLY QUR’AN:
          To turn water into wine at the marraige feast at Cana JOHN 2:9
          In the Holy Qur’an his first Miracle was to defend his mother, as an infant, against the false accusations of his enemies. SURAH MARIAM 19:30- 33
          2. HIS INVECTIVES AGAINST THE ELDERS OF HIS PEOPLE:
          (a) “Ye hypocrites . . .” MATTHEW 23:13
          (b) “Ye wicked and adulterous generation . . .” MATTHEW 16:4
          (c) “Ye whited sepulchres . . .” MATTHEW 23:27
          (d) “Ye generation of vipers . . .” MATTHEW 23:33
          (e) He calls his mother “WOMAN” JOHN 2:4, the same manner in which he addresses a prostitute, “. . . WOMAN where are those thine accusers?” JOHN 8:10 ”
          THE PRINCE OF PEACE,” boasts that he had not come to bring peace on earth but fire and division!
          “I came to set the earth on fire, and how I wish that it were ALREADY KINDLED.
          “Do you supposed that I came to bring peace to the world?
          No, not peace BUT DIVISION.” LUKE 12:49 and 51
          (JESUS) NOT GOD! Jesus would not allow anyone even to call him “good”, let alone call him god, even with a small “g”.
          “One came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
          “And Jesus said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD . . .” MATTHEW 19:16-I7
          3. (JESUS’) POWER NOT HIS OWN:
          (a) “And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power is GIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth.” MATTHEW 28:18
          (b) I can of mine own self DO NOTHING: as I hear, I judge . . .” JOHN 5:30
          (c) “. . . I by the FINGER OF GOD cast out devils . . .” LUKE 11:20
          (d) “And Jesus lifted up his eyes (towards heaven), and said, Father, I thank thee that THOU HAST HEARD ME. “And I know that THOU HEAREST ME ALWAYS: but because of the people which stand by l said (my supplication aloud), that THEY MAY BELIEVE that thou hast sent me. “And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. “And he that was dead came forth . . .” JOHN 11:41-43
          Who then gave life back to Lazarus? The answer is “GOD!” For God heard the prayer of Jesus, as “always!
          LISTEN NOW TO PETER’S TESTIMONY:
          (f) “Ye men of Israel (O Jews!) hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, A MAN approved of God (meaning a prophet) among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which GOD DID BY HIM in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.” ACTS 2:22
          WAS LUKE INSPIRED BY GOD TO SAY THAT JESUS (PBUH) WAS THE SON OF JOSEPH?
          “And Jesus himself began to be ABOUT (“about” the Holy Ghost did not know for sure) thirty years of age, being (AS WAS SUPPOSED) the son of Joseph . . .” LUKE 3:23
          The words “(as was supposed)” appearing in brackets are not in the original Greek manuscript of Luke! These words are a gloss of the translators.
          In the different vernacular languages of the world, like Arabic, Afrikaans, Zulu, etc. the words “as was supposed” are retained in the translations but the brackets are removed. Thus by removing the brackets the words become the declaration of Luke, and if Luke was inspired then the words are transmuted into an utterance of God. This is how easily the word of man is transformed into the word of God in Christianity.
          JESUS (PBUH), TOO SELF-CONSIDERATE:
          “There came a woman with a box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his (Jesus’ pbuh) head “But when his DISCIPLES saw it, they had INDIGNATION, SAYING, to WHAT PURPOSE IS THIS WASTE?” “For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.”
          “When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, why trouble ye the woman? For she hath wrought a good work upon me.” “For ye have the POOR ALWAYS WITH YOU; but me ye have not always.” MATTHEW 26:7-11
          4. POWERLESS
          (a) I can of mine own self DO NOTHING . . .” JOHN 5:30
          HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE HEREAFTER:
          (b) “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father.” MARK 13:32
          HE WAS IGNORANT OF THE SEASONS:
          (c) “And seeing a fig tree afar of having leaves, he came if happily he might find any thing there on: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves, FOR THE TIME OF FIGS WAS NOT YET.” MARK 11:13
          JESUS (PBUH) AS A THIRSTY “GOD”?
          (d) “. . . (Jesus) saith, I THIRST.” JOHN 19:28
          JESUS (PBUH) AS A WEEPING “GOD”?
          (e) “Jesus WEPT.” JOHN 11:35
          Remember that this is the shortest sentence in the Bible! (Only two words)
          IMAGINE A “GOD” BEING TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL (?)
          (f) “Where he (Jesus) stayed forty days, being tempted by Satan.” MARK 1:13
          5. ONLY CAME FOR THE JEWS (A RACIST)
          (a) “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them saying, GO NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans ENTER YE NOT. “But go ye rather unto the lost sheep of THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (to the Jews only).” MATTHEW 10:5-6
          (b) “But he (Jesus) answered and said I am NOT SENT but unto the lost sheep of the HOUSE OF ISRAEL (the Jews only). “Then came she (the Canaanite woman) and worshipped him, saying Lord, help me (to cure my daughter). “But he answered and said, it is not meet to take the children’s bread and CAST IT TO DOGS (the non-Jews).” MATTHEW 15:24-26
          6. JESUS’ (PBUH) SECOND COMING, NEVER MATERIALISED:
          “But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye unto another, for VERILY I say unto you, Ye shall NOT HAVE GONE over the cities of Israel, till the SON OF MAN (as referring to himself) BE COME.” MATTHEW 10:23
          The disciples of Jesus fled and they fled, and have now perished for two thousand years, with no sign of the return of Jesus.
          JESUS (PBUH) SPOKE IN PARABLES TO DECEIVE THE UNINITIATED:
          “. . . all these things are done in parables. That seeing they may see, and NOT perceive; and hearing they may hear, and NOT understand; LEST at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven.” MARK 4:11-12
          7. HATE AS FOUNDATION OF HIS (JESUS’) FAITH:
          “If any man comes to me, and HATE NOT his father, and mother, and wife, and children . . . HE CANNOT be my disciple.” LUKE 14:26
          PETER CONDTRADICTS JESUS (PBUH) REGARDING HIMSELF AS “THE ONLY WAY:”
          “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the father, but by me.” JOHN 14:6
          Contradicted by:
          “Then Peter opened his mouth . . . But IN EVERY NATION he that feareth him (God), and worketh righteousness, IS ACCEPTED with him (God).” ACTS 10:34-35

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  41. Omar Abdul Fatah says:

    With respect to all my Christian brothers and sisters, I would urge us all to reconsider the assumption underlying this entire debate. That is whether the Bible is true or the Quran is true. Why can’t both be true? Indeed, that is the position of the Quran. And as this article pointed out, the Quran actually tells our Christian brothers and sisters to uphold the Injil (very often translated as “Bible”). I believe anyone who reads both scriptures with an open heart, seeking the truth, will see that both have the same author and both preach the same message: God is One, and Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad are his slaves and messengers. May Allah (meaning the One True Creator in Arabic. Also used by Christian Arabs) guide us all to the truth. Ameen.

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  42. -Muslim~ says:

    In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

    *None of this properly states that the Holy Qur’an is unauthetic*
    The Qur’an is definitely the word of Allah, the ruler of the worlds. Is anyone there who can wrote even a phrase as such? And then, the claim that the Noble Qur’an was to be revealed on a follower of Hazrat Isa (RA) , then, well, 1) The Bible has been through major edits 2) The Holy Prophet (PBUH) , whose original name was “Ahmad” was born aong the pagan Quraish, if you study the books of Farkhanda Noor Muhammad, you’ll definitely find a perfect expalnation of how people had forgotten the message of Hazrat Isa (RA) and were involved into the deepest form of polytheism, the Prophet Mohammad (SAW) came upon as a light of guidance, and NO tradition, neither by a muslim, nor a non-muslim can report ANY sign of paganism and ignorance in him. Even though not the follower of Christians, he never went near the idols, and pondered over the God of his ancestors. And according to aunthetic traditions, he had accompanied his uncle to a trade journey to Syria, and a Christian Monk had found the qualities of the future Prophet, as said by Hazrat Isa (PBUH) , in Hazrat Muhammad (SAW).
    Secondly, when the muslims migrated to Abyssinia, Nijashi (Negus), the Christian ruler had asked Hazrat Jafar (May Allah be Pleased with him) to recite some verses of Al-Qur’an and he had recited those of Surah Maryam, and Nijashi had claimed : “By God, this and the Gospel are the lights of One Candle.”
    And if blaming the Last Holy Messenger of Allah, he was reffered as Al-Sadiq and Al-Amin by even the bitterest enemy, and they entrusted him their goods. Abu Sufyan, the greatest enemy and persecuter of the muslims had himslef claimed that he had never heard Muhammad (PBUH) telling a lie. As for the fact that the Qur’an deals with the crucifixion in a false way, I recommend the Question & Answer session of Dr. Zakir Naiq , in Dubai, ep#1. Watch it, you’ll be speechless.
    This page is really, seriously disturbing, and I request the writer to re-read the Qur’an, he will defintely be amazed at the flawlessness of every word. Any flaw? If he suggests that Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) made up the Qur’an, how come he write something so authentic, so flawless? Even the best selling author in the present world needs an editor, never has any human wrotten a piece without a flaw. And Allah Ta’llah has promised to save the book, and see, is any word altered? Any single letter? If Muhammad (PBUH) wrote it, is there any possibility taht he didn’t make a mistake? Check out what the Companions have to report about the coming down of the Holy Revelations. The have personally visualised the Holy Prophet (PBUH) sweating, his weight increasing, can you call that fake, too?

    The Qur’an is the words of the Master of the Worlds, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Praise be to Allah, who has no diety.

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  43. Matt says:

    Does it not strike you odd that the Koran is a watered down version of the Bible? It seems obvious that Muhammad was envious of the Jews/Christians, so he decided to make his own religion based off of what was already there. The other thing that’s confusing is how God would entrust Muhammad with authority to interpret God’s word. His character seems nothing close to holy, by any standards. What if the angel Muhammad was referring to was satan?

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  44. Ramir says:

    You are stupid you will get your balance from god won’t you listen in the Quran Muhammad is the prophet of Allah Bielieve or not the only god is Allah and Muhammad is his prophet If you want to get the gennet say ibielieve that Allah is the only god and Muhammad is his prophetess

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  45. YOUR BROTHER IN HUMANITY says:

    TO MY DEAR CHRISTIANS AND BELOVED BROTHERS/SISTERS OF HUMANITY – I ASK YOU 3 QUESTIONS:
    1) What language did Jesus Christ speak as he preached the Gospels in the middle east?
    -ANSWER: It was ARAMAIC (an ancient and unfortunately extinct Semitic language – not to be confused with the other Semitic language, Arabic) *In doubt? Google search “what language did jesus speak?”
    2) Since Jesus spoke ARAMAIC, how do you say God in ARAMAIC?
    -ANSWER: God in ARAMAIC is Allah *Dont believe me? Google search “how do you say God in Aramaic?”
    3) Since Christians still live in the middle east, where Arabic is now spoken – what word do they use for God?
    -ANSWER: They use Allah – the Arabic word for God. Meaning, Arabic-speakers from all faiths (including the Abrahamic faiths of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) say Allah when referring to God

    LETS CONNECT THE DOTS.
    ***Since Jesus called God – Allah, And Muhammed called God – Allah, they both referred to the same One God.
    ***In-fact beginning with Adam and throughout the evolution of mankind, God sent a prophet to every nation.
    ” To every nation We sent a Messenger who told its people, “Worship God and stay away from satan.”
    (Quran 16:36).
    ***As man evolved, prophets were sent with commandments (testaments) best suited for their time period – hence the many world religions. For example, Moses was given the Torah (the Old Testament – Judaism). Jesus continued with the Bible (The New Testament – Christianity). Muhammed ended with the Quran (THE LAST/FINAL TESTAMENT – Islam)
    Chapter 3, Verse 84 of the Quran tells mankind: “Say, “We have believed in Allah (The God) and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in
    what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [one who accepts God].”
    ***Since the Quran is the Final Testament – it is the comprehensive completion of God’s commandments – a guidance for all humanity. In other words, Muhammed is the last and final messenger – the seal of prophethood.
    ***You may be surprised that Jesus Christ’s name is mentioned more than Muhammed in the Quran. In-fact 25 prophets are mentioned including Noah, Adam, Abraham, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, etc. And if you have any doubt in the divine origin of the Quran simply google “Scientific Miracles of the Quran.” Or pause for a second and consider that unlike any other historical texts (such as the Bible) which have changed over time – the Quran is still preserved in its original version (from 1438 years ago).
    Still doubting the Quran’s miraculous divinity? Then Google search “the most memorized book in the world”. And ponder on the fact that even though the Holy Quran is more than 6000+ verses long, it is the most memorized book in the world (people can recite it by heart from cover to cover). Go to http://WWW.Quran.COM and listen to it for yourself and may God guide you in understanding why this is the Final Testament for all of mankind.

    STILL HAVE DOUBTS? ITS NORMAL TO QUESTION. I DID TOO.
    ***I used to wonder why didn’t God just send the Final Testament (Quran) from the beginning? I’ll give you an analogy to something we’ve all used, the IPod – and how it too, just like religion, has changed and evolved over time. The IPod started in black/white, gained color, transformed to touch, and evolved into its final form which we know of as the IPhone (this final version can do everything the old ones can, but some choose not to upgrade – they stick to their version/scripture). So why not just reveal the IPhone (hence the final scripture) from the beginning? Because you can’t expect our oldest ancestors – cavemen, to know how to use a touch screen – they lack the foundations/knowledge from how to use the older models. Hence, the old scriptures had to come first because God had to guide mankind according to the relevances of that time period. As man evolved, new scriptures/versions were released – each customized for that era but always upgraded on the basic foundation of worshiping The One God.

    SO WHAT’S OUR PURPOSE AS HUMANS?
    ***Our purpose is to be “readmitted” back into heaven by doing good deeds and staying away from sin
    * To understand this, you have to know the story of Adam and Eve and how their expulsion from Heaven started mankind’s existence on earth. Their removal had a purpose – to test if man would use his free-will to follow God’s commandments and resist Satan’s sinful temptations

    SO NOW THINK LOGICALLY:
    **If the propaganda you see in the media was a true representation of the faith of 1 in 4 people (~23% of the world’s population) then why is Islam STILL the world’s fastest growing religion?
    **Islam is a complete system of living at peace with the environment, with one’s self, and with one another. The word Islam literally means “being at peace with God.”

    I apologize for the long essay – as you are my fellow brother/sister in humanity, my intention is to guide you, as I too, at one point used to be unguided. I hope this explanation brings you peace. May God bless you – and all my fellow brothers and sisters of humanity

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  46. Abdul Hakeem says:

    This is the most ignorance and the most dumb article I have read so far…..Someone somewhere is ignoring all the truth in the Qur’an and translating negatively the truths just to make people become a disbeliever like him and some of these people also putting up comments that jeopardize people’s believe in the almighty God whom has given us life and whom we all owe praises….Both Isa (Jesus) (A.S) & Mohamment (S.A.W) are prophets of almighty Allah (God) and they all sent down to come and diliver the message of Allah, AL’QURAN is the Holy book which contains every warnings against sin, quidiance against evils & revelations of everything happening in the world right now and what is still going to happen sooner and later…AL’QURAN tells us a lot about people like you whom will try to mislead the believes and it also tells us many more about how people will be laughing and mocking the believers in the future. Fear Allah (God) & ALWAYS remember death for you are sleeping and waking with his will, I know some will still say there’s no life after death but Honestly people who say such will suffer and burn in hell….We still have time now to repent and believe in Allah (SWT), we don’t have to wait till it’s too late, everything happening this days that seem to be normal, AL’QURAN tells us about them all before they started happening and the worse it yet to come, you don’t have to witness it before you believe it. Allah (SWT) says in the Quran that Days are coming when there will be no more stars in the sky, Sun will rise from the west after which the doors of the forgiveness is closed, each and every writing in every Qur’an will vanish, Dajjal with one eye will arrive and Tell everyone he is God which most people are already worshiping and ready for his arrival, days when people will be disappearing, Descending of prophet Isa (Jesus) (A.S), The Dab’bat al-Ard will emerge from the ground &I will mark all the true Muslims, 40 days of fog that will kill all the true believers so they do not have to experience other signs, a huge fire will cause distractions, Allah (s.w.t) has also said in the Qur’an that a baby just like dajjal will be born in israel and that this is a sign of the day of judgement. Truly the baby is born in Israel, could you imagine Qur’an said this many centuries ago and not just after the baby was born. It has also said in the Qur’an that israel will take over palestine. Allah (s.w.t) has said in the Qur’an that these are some of the signs before the day of judgement. So brothers & sisters please start changing yourself, start praying. You never know when the day of judgment will take place. Allah has told us everything, he has reveled everything that is going to happen….we don have to wait until it’s too late. We all need to stop being ignorants and seek forgiveness, forgiveness, forgiveness. May Almighty Allah forgive each and everyone of us and count us among the successfuls on the day of the Qiyamah. Ameen.

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  47. abdulateef olushola says:

    It is a known fact that God is very kind to all human being to have given us conscience we all know what is good or bad Jesus said it better to be a servant to only one lord than to many it is also the message in the Glorious Qur’an he Jesus said he is a slave of God in many instances in the Bible even the mother said she is a maid servant of God in the Gospel. Jesus said I have come to the world to do Gods will even his prayer always is that thy will be done on earth as it is heaven the angels are always submitting to God but we humans were being given the choice either to submit willingly like the Prophets who are our guides (not God) or to refuse so that any body that refuses to submit will blame he/herself in the hereafter. Pls.note everything God created is for we human beings so that we should be grateful and worship God by following the example of the prophets Jesus , Muhammad etc. and if we do this we shall be in Paradise with the angels John17:3 etc but if we do not submit willingly we have taken the choice to be with the devil in hell fire fore ever May Allah the only true God forgive us and save us from eternal damnation Ameen.

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  48. ABDUL-AZIZ SUMAILA says:

    WHY THE BIBLE CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD
    I. IT CONTAINS INCEST
    BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:
    (a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “The next day the older daughter said to her sister, l slept with him last night: now let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. “So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him … “In this way both of Lot’s daughters became PREGNANT by their father.” GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the “Good News Bible in Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.”
    INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:
    (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. ” GENESIS 35:22.The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.
    INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:
    (c) “When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) “She said what will you give me?” (To have sex with me). “He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK. “She said, “All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the goat. N “. . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant.” GENESIS 38:15-I8 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”)
    Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ. See MATTHEW 1:3 “And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . .”
    INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN BROTHER AND SISTER:
    (d) “. . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not to be confused with Thamar in “c” above), and said unto her, Come lie with me (have sex with me), my sister. 2 Samuel 13:11 “And she answered him, Nay, my brother (Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God’s own heart), do not force me . . .” 2 Samuel 13:12 “But he would not listen to her; and since he was stronger than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister).” 2 Samuel 13:14
    WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS!
    (e) “So they set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof, and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his father’s concubines .” 2 SAMUEL 16:22
    (f) For other various types of incest see LEVITICUS 18:8-18, 20:11- 14 and 17-21. 1. “Concubine” is synonymous

    2. IT ALSO CONTAINS ABSURDITIES
    (a) A TALKING ass. NUMBERS 22:27-28
    (b) FOUR footed fowls. LEVITICUS 11:20
    (c) Birth of females a DOUBLE pollution. LEVITICUS 12:1,2,5
    (d) Shamgar KILLS 600 with an ox goad. JUDGES 3:31
    (e) Samson KILLS A THOUSAND with the jaw bone of a donkey. JUDGES 15:15-16
    (f) A SEVEN HEADED leopard. REVELATION 13:1-2
    (g) To eat SHIT and drink PISS. 2 KINGS 18:27 and ISAIAH 36:12
    (h) DUNG on your faces. MALACHI 2:3
    (i) To eat cake with SHIT. EZEKIEL 4:12-15
    (j) Samson has SEX with a whore in Gaza. JUDGES 16:1
    (k) Ruth COHABITS with Boaz in the barn. RUTH 3:4-15
    (l) David SLEEPS with a young virgin. 1 KINGS 11:1,3
    (m) not existing creatures like unicorn ISAIAH 34:7
    (n) serpents eat dust GENESIS 3:14 and ISAIAH 65:25
    (o) hare is a cud chewer. LEVITICUS 11:6
    (p) ants has no ruler. PROVEB 6:7
    (q) rainbow as GOD;s promise not to destroy the whole world with flood. GENESIS 9:13-17
    (r) light of the moon is its own light. GENESIS 1:16-17
    (s) all plants and fruits (includes poisonous plants) are edible. GENESIS 1:29

    3. IT CONTAINS CONTRADICTIONS
    (a) The “Lord” tempted David . . . 2 SAMUEL 24:1 or “Satan” provoked David . . . 1 CHRONICLES 21:1
    (b) 700 or 7000? “Horsemen” or “Footmen” . . .? 2 SAMUEL 10:18 vs 1 CHRONICLES 19:18
    (c) Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths? 1 KINGS 7:26 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 4:5
    (d) Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000? 2 CHRONICLES 9:25 vs 1 KINGS 4:26
    (e) Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn’t he? 1 SAMUEL 28:6 vs 1
    CHRONICLES 10:13-14
    (f) Heaven, no man hath ascended JOHN 3:13 Contradicted by: 2 KINGS 2:11 Elijah ascended and GENESIS 5:24 Enoch ascended.
    (g) Jesus lost “None” of his disciples JOHN 18:9 Contradicted by: He lost only “One” JOHN 17:12
    (h) “ALL” are sinners 2 CHRONICLES 6:36 Contradicted by: “Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commit sin . . .” 1 JOHN 3:9
    (i) Was jehoiachin 18 years or 8 years old when he begun to reign? 2 KINGS 24:8 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 36:9
    (j) Did jehoiachin reign for 3 months or 3 moths, 10 days? 2 KINGS 24:8 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 36:9
    (k) Was Aheziah 22 years or 42 years when be begun to reign? 2 KINGS 8:26 vs. 2 CHRONICLES 22:2
    (l) Was it 800000 or 1100000 men of Israel? 2 SAMUEL 24:9 vs. 1 CHRONICLES 21:5
    (m) Was it 500000 or 10450 men of Judah? 2 SAMUEL 24:9 vs. 1 CHRONICLES 21:5
    (n) Did Michal had no children or has 5 sons? 2 SAMUEL 6:23 vs. 2 SAMUEL 21:8
    (o) The genealogy of jesus Christ. MATHEW 1:16 vs. LUKE 3:23
    (p) Are they 200 or 245 singers? EZRA 2:64 vs. NEHEMIAH 7:67

    4. ILL-TREATMENTS OF WOMEN
    1. a woman cause sin to enter the world. [genesis 3]
    2. women are being perceived as evil and hence are placed below men. there fore they are called daughters of men and not daughters of God. [genesis 6]
    3. a woman gets no inheritance if there brothers. [numbers 27:8]
    4. a woman who even inherit cannot marry outside her father’s family.[numbers 36:6-8]
    5. the vow of a woman can be cancelled by either the father [numbers 30:6] or her husband [numbers 30:14]
    6. a woman is guilty until she is proven innocent through
    a. bitter water test for adultery [ numbers 5:11-31]
    b. father’s evident testimony of her virginity [Deuteronomy 22:13-21]
    7. rape of a lady [Deuteronomy 22:28-29]
    8. women are not allowed to speak in public [1 Corinthian 14:34] and [1 timothy 2:11-12]

    5. Qualities ill-befitting God –
    (a) A “hissing” God (?) ISAIAH 5:26, 7:18, ZECHARIAH 10:8
    (b) A “roaring” God (?) ISAIAH 42:13, JEREMIAH 25:30
    (c) A “barber” God (?) ISAIAH 7:20
    (d) A “penitent” God (?) JEREMIAH 15:6, GENESIS 6:6
    (e) A God “riding” a cherub (?) 2 SAMUEL 22:11
    (f) A God murders 50,070 for looking into a box (?) 1

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  49. Jamiu says:

    Azeez nice one.This is to put all christians in the permanent state of shut up. CRUXIFIXION OR CRUXI-FICTION? (loading………).I would prove it to you that Jesus (p.b.u.h) didn’t die using the bible verses. When i read the bible i always come across prophets went in and lay with their wives but sarah is different. Imagine in Genesis 21:1 The lord (GOD) visited sarah as he had said [ i said to myself what? Like the writer of this articles ( jonathan), visited is girlfriend?] and the Lord ( God) did to sarah as he had promised. ( again i said to myself what did Lord did to sarah? This is absolutely nonsense). It continues and sarah conceived. See what they attached to God, May Allah Forgive you all . I’m asking jonathan the writer of this articles, what did you do to make your girlfriend conceived? Bible is not completely word of God. Just 5% of the entire bible contains word of God, The remaining 95% is story of a person narrating his pain story.

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  50. The Christianity Sense says:

    Many Muslims hold to the claim that Christianity is a hoax, filled with misinterpretations and false preachers or “fake pastors” who contradict each other. Frankly speaking, you will never hear of a fake imam who claim to be a devoted Muslim, who still linger in iniquity like you do hear in Christianity that especially on the news concerning some ministers.
    Well, the reason is simple. Throughout my life I have never seen a fake $3 bill why? Thats because there’s no real $3 bill. So it will be stupid to make one. But I guess we’ve all seen a fake or counterfeit $100 bill. This teaches us a lesson. That there’s A REAL $100 BILL. No one kills himself trying to be fake or TRYING TO MANIPULATE WHAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.

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  51. The Christianity Sense says:

    We’ve all been discussing Christianity and Islam, but no one has really spoke on Christianity as it outruns Islam in spiritual matters. Only in Christianity does the blind see (modern day Christianity, not some AD miracles here),the lame walk, demons are cast out of people(I strongly believe Muslims get possessed, but no deliverance) the dead rise back to life(how fake can that be) terminal diseases like AIDS and cancer are averted. You won’t see a pile of lame people sitting around in a corner.
    You might say these healing are fake(even when it happens to me?), but remember, you will always see some fake $100 bill WHY? Because there’s a real $100 bill but never a fake $3 bill WHY.
    I’m Christianity, God is NOT JUST SEEN AS A GOD SITTING ABOVE, but also as a Friend. A Friend you talk to regularly, and also as a Father. Our DAD. This is so real that Jesus even advised we should only call God our Dad. Doing that makes God so real to me.

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  52. The Christianity Sense says:

    I accept to an extent when Muslims don’t accept the new testament because it’s contrary, but I do not accept or find it funny when they do not accept the words of the old testament. Words filled with fulfilled prophecies. Giving better information about Abraham, Moses etc. Filled with the words of PROPHETS and they have just a prophet who I don’t think can even be compared to the greatElijah and Elisha who parted seas, was translated to heaven, not seeing death, who stop rain from falling for 3 and a half years,and brought it back afterward. Because if they do accept these Holy Books, they will discover and learn that the Great king David wrote of when God called the coming messiah “GOD” (psalms 45:6, Hebrews 1:8).
    Secondly, after the scripture said only God can be worshipped, and even an angel warned Saint John the beloved not to worship him put only God, we discovered that angels worshipped Christ(Hebrews 1:6), even the 24 elders and four living creatures in heaven worshiped Him(Rev. 5:8). Even in the old testament, an Angel always claimed to be God, He was even called God by individuals who He appeared to or fought with. Even one of the new testament writers claimed these people saw God. But three times in the Bible do we discover that no one has seen God and no human CAN see the Father (why?), because He’s a SPIRIT. But only His body can be SEEN-CHRIST why? Because anyone who has seen Me has seen My Father.
    The Bible says we are gods, and Jesus even quoted this Scripture when He was questioned about His claimed deity. The Bible also says though we are gods, some will die like mere men. We Christians follow a leader that walked on water, rose the dead and did a lot of miracles, and yet still told us that we would do even greater works than what He did. He also told us that these signs shall follow them that believe, and claim this free gift, that in His name alone we will cast out demon, heal the sick, raise the dead. All these things mine left me, WHAT DID YOURS LEAVE YOU WITH. EVEN A PROMISE OF COMING BACK AGAIN WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE. BUT EVEN YOURS CLAIM MINE WILL COME BACK AGAIN.
    Read the words of Jesus from Matthew 5,you’ll see how great a teacher He is.

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  53. Francis Nyerho says:

    Even if you do not accept the Christians, can’t you just accept that Jesus is a far more better prophet than Muhammed. Even Muhammad claimed He is. One that brings objects to life is far greater than one who doesn’t, One that spoke while still a baby is far greater than one who didn’t. Yours even claim Mine is the Word of God, yet you claim He is not God. You might say-“how can my word be me”, but I say-“how can your word NOT be you.
    Your word is the expression of your thoughts, opinions, ideas, feelings. Your word defines you. Relating to humans, we might say how words do not totally define us because we sometimes lie. But God can never lie. Do you know Jesus is never referred to as Jesus in heaven, but all call Him the word of God up there.
    God’s opinion is Jesus, His ideas, thoughts, feelings is Jesus. So no wonder Jesus said “all I know, the Father revealed it to me”. He was speaking directly from God’s knowledge. So why don’t we take His teachings as the best teachings ever. Read the Bible about all the times Jesus was attacked with word, watch what He always said. War and violence can never be a solution. Jesus used just His words to counter all. When His disciple took off the ear of one of the soldier who came to arrest Him, He picked the ear and placed it right where it belonged. LOVE. THIS MUHAMMED WILL NEVER DO FOR THE MAN WHO WANTS TO ARREST HIM.
    In Islam, Allah says “tell your sons to die for me”, but in Christianity, God told His Son to die for (not the Christians alone) all sinner.

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  54. The Christianity sense says:

    Pls note that the promise was only given to Abraham through Jacob’s seed. Ishmael didn’t inherit the promise,and we Christians are only liable to go to paradise because some of Jacob’s seed fell to the ground through disobedience and sin. We being on the ground already, through accepting Christ start growing together with the olive tree. Something contrary to nature. Apostles Paul’s theory.

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  55. Joe says:

    In other words, we know exactly what the bible said during the commencement and launch of the Islamic religion:

    The Chester Beatty Papyrus II: AD 100.
    The John Rylands Manuscript: AD 130.
    The Codex Vaticanus: AD 325- 350.
    The Codex Sinaiticus: AD 375-400.
    The Codex Washingtonianus: AD 450.
    Since we know the Bible was not corrupted by referring to these ancient documents and papyri, we see that Islam is proven to be locked into a grave dilemma. If the bible was corrupted, then the Quran is false because it affirms its inerrancy and inspiration. But if the bible was NOT corrupted, the Quran STILL remains false because it blatantly contradicts the biblical narrative on virtually every significant point.

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  56. Joe says:

    1) The Quran affirms that the Bible is the word of God.

    Yes. You read that correctly. When one begins to examine the Quranic narrative, he or she will quickly come to discover that the Quran affirms the bible’s divine inspiration and inerrancy. Many Muslims, however, assert that such passages are referring to the “REAL” bible.

    In other words, prior to its supposed corruption. Yet when we read the following verses, it becomes blatantly clear that “Allah” and his prophet considered the bible to be uncorrupted and inspired DURING THE TIME OF MUHAMMAD:

    Surah 5:43: “But why do they come to thee for decision, WHEN THEY HAVE (THEIR OWN) TORAH BEFORE THEM? – THEREIN IS THE (PLAIN) COMMAND OF ALLAH; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith.

    Surah 5:46-47: “And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, CONFIRMING THE TORAH THAT CAME BEFORE HIM: We sent him the Gospel: THEREIN IS GUIDANCE AND LIGHT, and confirmation of the torah that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. LET THE PEOPLE OF THE GOSPEL JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH HATH REVEALED THEREIN. IF ANY DO FAIL TO JUDGE BY (THE LIGHT OF) WHAT ALLAH HATH REVEALED, THEY ARE (NO BETTER THAN) THOSE WHO REBEL.”

    Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38 (Kitab al Hudud, i.e. Prescribed Punishments), Number 4434: Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar: A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. HE THEN WITHDREW THE CUSHION FROM BENEATH HIM AND PLACED THE TORAH ON IT SAYING: I BELIEVED IN THEE AND IN HIM WHO REVEALED THEE.

    Here are some things to note:

    In surah 5:43, the Jews HAVE the Torah (Present tense). THEREIN IS Allah’s command.
    In surah 5:46-47 it writes THEREIN IS GUIDANCE. Furthermore, Allah instructs us to JUDGE (Present tense) by the gospel.
    Muhammad considered the Torah that existed in HIS time to be the word of God.
    Now in light of the Islamic evidence, a segment of the Muslim community have conjured up a theory that the bible was corrupted AFTER Muhammad’s time. This is simply impossible, seeing as we have manuscripts of the bible which date back prior to and during Muhammad’s time.
    In other words, we know exactly what the bible said during the commencement and launch of the Islamic religion:

    The Chester Beatty Papyrus II: AD 100.
    The John Rylands Manuscript: AD 130.
    The Codex Vaticanus: AD 325- 350.
    The Codex Sinaiticus: AD 375-400.
    The Codex Washingtonianus: AD 450.
    Since we know the Bible was not corrupted by referring to these ancient documents and papyri, we see that Islam is proven to be locked into a grave dilemma. If the bible was corrupted, then the Quran is false because it affirms its inerrancy and inspiration. But if the bible was NOT corrupted, the Quran STILL remains false because it blatantly contradicts the biblical narrative on virtually every significant point.

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  57. Joe says:

    2) Scientific inaccuracies

    Sperm:

    The Qur’an states, incorrectly, that semen originates from a spot between the backbone and the ribs, Surah 86:6-7. However, science has demonstrated that sperm comes from the testicles whilst semen issues from different glands behind and below our bladder.

    Flat earth:

    The Quran is laden with verses which hint towards the impression of a “flat” earth. Surah 13:3, 15:19, 50:7, 51:48, 71:19, 20:53 and many more write that the earth is “spread out”, “Laid out”, or “like a carpet”. Yet due to modern scientific discovery we know that the earth is actually in the shape of a circular sphere.

    Just to further elaborate on this point, ever notice how the Islamic Salat indirectly hints at the idea of a flat earth? Muslims all around the world are instructed to pray towards the Kabba 5 times a day. This would only make sense if we lived on a flat earth. If, however, Islam endorsed the belief in a spherical planet, we would get the following dilemma.

    All things were made in pairs:

    Within the Quran, surah 51:49, it writes that all THINGS were created in pairs. Yet, today we know of something called Asexual reproduction. Asexual reproduction is a type of reproduction by which offsprings arise from a single organism. It serves as the chief means by which single celled organisms are formed. Such examples include the Archaea, bacteria, various plants and fungi.

    Shooting stars are missiles to drive out demons:

    The Qur’an teaches that stars are fires set up in the sky to guard Heaven against demons. The demons want to hear what God is saying so they try to sneak up to heaven. If they are found, the guardians of heaven will hurl stars at them to chase them off: 15:16-18, 37:6-10, 67:5 and 72:8-9.

    The dilemma, however, is that the Quran is confusing “stars” with “shooting stars”. Stars, as we know, are actually suns. Shooting stars on the other hand, are meteorites, or galactic debris. If we are to take the Quran seriously, then each time we see a “shooting star” we are to assume that it is actually a sun that is blasting across the sky in the pursue of a demon.

    The sun settles in a muddy spring:

    In surah 18:86, the Quran describes the sun as setting into a muddy spring. Yet we know due to modern scientific discovery that the setting of the sun is caused by the circular and rotational properties of our planet. There exists no place where the sun physically “sets”.

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  58. Joe says:

    3) Historical inaccuracies

    Samaria:

    In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read about the story of the Prophet Moses and the Israelite rebellion in their worship of the golden calf. The interesting thing within this passage, is that a SAMARITAN was accused of leading the people of Allah astray.

    The story of Moses and the golden calf is dated to have occurred around 1400 BC. Yet the Samaritans did NOT exist until 530 years AFTER Moses. Samaria was founded by King Omri during the year 870 BC. The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C.

    So the question arises: How could a Samaritan lead the people of Moses astray when Samaritans did not exist during the time of Moses?

    Crucifixion:

    According to Surah 12:41, the Quran writes that during the time of Joseph (in the Old Testament), death by crucifixion was actually something that existed and was being performed. Not only that, but the Quran writes in Surah 7:124, 26:49 and 20:71 that Pharaoh threatened the magicians who believed in Moses with crucifixion.

    The major problem with these statements from the Qur’an is that there is no archeological or historical evidence that the Egyptians used crucifixion as a form of punishment in the time of Joseph, or in the time of Moses. Crucifixion only becomes a punishment much later in history.

    Alexander the great:

    In surah 18:83-98 we read about a man named Dhul-Qarnayn. Now, it is VERY rare to find a scholar of the Islamic religion which will not state that this points to Alexander the great. Here are just some of those people: Baydawi, p. 399, al-Jalalan, p. 251, al-Tabari, p. 339, al-Zamakhshari, part 2 of al-Kash-shaf, p. 743.

    The problem, however, is that the Quran describes Alexander as being a “righteous and God fearing man”. That Allah is the one whom guided him and that he lead people into the fold of the Islamic faith.

    However, when we even do a little research on the true and historical Alexander, we see that he was an idolater, claiming to be the son of the Egyptian God Amun. Very few would even consider him to be even remotely close to a righteous human being.

    Mary, the Quranic confusion:

    According to answeringIslam.org,

    In many places, the Qur’an mentions Mary as the sister of Moses and Aaron and the daughter of Imran. The Qur’an has confused Jesus’ mother with Aaron’s sister because both of them carry the same name, though there are several centuries between them.

    The Qur’an indicates that Mary (Christ’s mother) had a brother whose name was Aaron (chapter 19:28) and a father whose name is Imran (chapter 66:12). Their mother was called “the wife of Imran” (chapter 3:35) which eliminates any doubt that it confuses Mary, mother of Jesus, with Mary, sister of Aaron.

    The gospel of Jesus Christ:

    In surah 4:157, the Quran unashamedly tells us that Christ was never killed nor crucified. But that it was made to appear so. Rather, Allah raised Christ unto himself. The traditional interpretation of this verse is that Allah replaced Jesus with Judas on the cross, hence ANY historical substantiation of this event would fall short on disproving the Islamic position, for they do not doubt that the crucifixion took place, but that it was Judas who took on Christ’s form.

    Yet when we look to the historical record, we see that it too, also successfully dismantles this elucidation, because 10 out of the 12 apostles were martyred for believing in the MURDER and RESSURECTION of Jesus. History shows that that they firmly believed that it was Jesus himself who was murdered raised from the dead.

    In The Historical Jesus: Lecture Transcript and Course Guidebook, 2000, Ehrman says:

    “ONE OF THE MOST CERTAIN FACTS OF HISTORY IS THAT JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED ON ORDERS OF THE ROMAN PREFECT OF JUDEA, PONTIUS PILATE”. (P. 162)

    Atheist Professor of Early Christianity and the University of Gottinggen Gerd Ludemann says:

    “JESUS’ DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE OF CRUCIFIXION IS INDISPUTABLE”. IN THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST: A HISTORICAL INQUIRY, 2004, P 50

    We have at least 11 sources for the crucifixion of Jesus: Pre-Mark Passion Narrative, Q, John, Paul, Hebrews, 1 Peter 2:24, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Martyr, Josephus Flavius, & Cornelius Tacitus. Pre-Mark and Q are very early dating to within years of the actual crucifixion.

    Other less valuable sources such as Lucian, Mesa Bar Serapion (depends on dating), Thallus and the Talmud all affirm a constant tradition of Jesus’ crucifixion.

    If this was really Judas on the cross, then surely they would have been aware. SURELY they would not have been willing to die for something they knew was false. So again, if we take the above mentioned interpretation into account, Islam is left with the following 2 problems:

    If it was really Judas on the cross, then Islam is immediately contradicted by the historical sources that tell us Jesus was crucified and all those who knew him believed and died for the belief that he was crucified.
    If Allah transformed Judas into Jesus, then the corruption of Islam, which eventually gave birth to Christianity, is Allah’s fault. For he is responsible for deceiving the masses, only to amend it hundreds of years later.
    Now there does exist other interpretations such as “Christ did not die, but he merely fainted”. Yet all still manage to fail when brought under scrutiny of what history has to say concerning the crucifixion of Jesus.

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  59. Jamiu says:

    Joe, big shame on you, this is how you can interprete the quran? You know nothing. Quran talks abou the fact that has been established not theory and hypothesis. Scientifically hypothesis or theory changes but fact remains. If you want to know quran in light of modern science kindly read dr naik zakir books. In brief in light of ASTRONOMY read quran 21:33 EXPANSION OF UNIVERSE read quran 51:47, WATER CYCLE read quran 86:11, GEOLOGY quran 78:6-7, ROUNDNESS OF EARTH quran 39:5,31:29, 22:61, EMBRYOLOGY, THE BIG BANG, OCEONOLOGY,THE FEMALE HONEY BEE, THE WEIGHT OF THE CLOUD, THE STAR THAT KNOCK ETC. YOUR HOLY BIBLE FAILED ALL IN LIGHT OF SCIENCE. Just go and watch DEBATE BETWEEN DR CAMBELL AND DR NAIK OR Google search QURAN COMPATIBLE OR INCOMPATIBLE WITH MODERN SCIENCE BY DR ZAKIR NAIK. JOE YOU LACK KNOWLEDGE in the light of science.

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