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VeggieTales creator, Phil Vischer, has done some wonderful videos over the years. See what you think about this new 14-minute video he just put out on abortion. 

Now, before we analyze the content, what do you think is the main goal of this video?  Is it to urge Christians to not merely focus on overturning Roe to reduce abortions?  Or, do you think the main goal of the video is to give Christians supposed intellectual and moral justification to vote against Trump and for Biden in 2020?   

Since “vote” is in its title, it appears to be a thinly veiled attempt to accomplish the latter.  Now, the motive behind the video doesn’t make its contents is necessarily false.  Some of it is certainly true.   In fact, the video rightly highlights that overturning Roe is difficult, and it’s not the only thing that Christians and other pro-lifers should be doing to end abortion.

But Informed Christians already know that.  They are already engaged in ministries to prevent abortion and minister to those hurt by it.  They also know that overturning Roe will not end abortion completely in America, but it will save thousands of lives (as the video admits). 

If this video is intended to shift evangelical voting priorities, it should fail because the video’s case is built on fallacies and false data. It also leaves out several relevant facts. 

  1. It offers the false dilemma that we can only reduce abortions by the methods they suggest OR by overturning Roe.  Why can’t we do both?  We can and should as most pro-lifers attempt to do.    
  2. It tries to make a case that changing the law wouldn’t matter much.  It does so by making contrary to fact assertions and citing obviously false stats:
    • An “estimated” 800,000 abortions in 1930.  Really?  Who’s doing the “estimating”?  There were only 123 million people in the US in 1930.  Today there are 331 million which are known to produce 800,000 abortions each year.  Obviously, the 1930 “estimate” is wildly inflated:  there were far less than 800,000 abortions in 1930 because we had only 37% of the population that we have now, and there was not the same access to abortion then as now. 
    • More abortions before Roe and the rate is also lower now?  Again, false. According to Dr. Thomas Hilgers, who did the definitive study on this back in 1981, the true annual number of pre-Roe abortions is somewhere between 39,000 and 210,000 with a median of 98,000—nowhere close to the 800,000 cited in the video (which obviously makes their rate claim wrong).  How could the video’s authors think their numbers were anything other than make-believe?  It defies all experience and common sense to think you’ll get less of something if you make it legal.  Does anyone really think we’ll get fewer murders if we just make murders legal?  Fewer rapes if we legalize it?  Incredibly, that’s what the authors of this video say has happened with abortion, and it nullifies the core of their argument.   
  3. It ignores the fact that the law is a great teacher, and that changing it yields great benefits.  Many people take their moral cues from the law.  They think whatever is legal is moral, and whatever is illegal is immoral.  Slavery is a good example.  We have a better moral view on slavery now than 160 years ago even though, overall, we are less moral now in most other areas.  Why?  Because the law has helped teach people since then that slavery is immoral.  Similarly, most people thought abortion was immoral in 1973 as evidenced by the fact that most states outlawed it.  Now we’re about evenly split.  Why?  Because making abortion legal made more people mistakenly think it is moral.  It is not as this one-minute video unequivocally shows
  4. It assumes that since Roe hasn’t been overturned yet, it won’t be overturned so we shouldn’t keep it a priority (suspiciously two weeks before the most pro-life president in terms of policy and appointments is up for re-election).  They ignore the fact overturning Roe requires a long game that can take many years. It requires a case to come before the court that challenges Roe through state law.  This happens infrequently because states are not apt to pass such a law unless they think the court might take it and then vote favorably on it.  A conservative court is more likely to welcome such a challenge.  With Trump’s three judges, we may finally have such a court.  That will be lost if Democrats win and pack the court—a threat Biden refuses to deny. 
  5. It ignores the fact that Roe would have been overturned in 1992 had Bork not been “Borked” by Democrats in the Senate (The Planned Parenthood vs. Casey case was at 5-4 decision with Kennedy, Bork’s replacement, writing the atrocious relativistic decision in favor of keeping Roe).  

So, what’s really behind this thinly veiled and fallacious attempt?  It’s not because the authors have suddenly discovered the non-importance of Roe.  After all, do you think this video would exist if Biden was running against Bush rather than Trump? 

No, this video exists because Christians are looking for any excuse to avoid voting for Trump. When I ask never-Trump Christians, “If it was Bush vs. Biden, who would you vote for?”  They all say, “that’s easy—Bush!”  Yet Trump supports more conservative and pro-life policies than Bush.  This reveals that they are voting personality rather than policy. (Look, I wish we had a good personality and platform in one candidate. Unfortunately, we don’t. I give Trump and A- on policy and a D on demeanor; Biden gets an F and policy and a C on demeanor.) 

But Trump’s caustic and rude personality is no justification for suggesting that life isn’t the most important issue anymore.  The first duty of government is to prevent the taking of innocent life, and certainly not to pay for the taking of innocent life (as the Democrat platform advocates with its taxpayer funding of abortion.)   While being pro-life doesn’t necessarily make someone a good candidate, being pro-abortion necessarily disqualifies a candidate.

Pro-life author Scott Klusendorf asks you to “imagine a school house that is on fire with children trapped inside. A crude talking man with arrogant tweets is willing to join you risking his life to save kids. Meanwhile, a “nice” man thought to be less haughty and with fewer sarcastic tweets not only refuses to help you, he promises to throw gasoline on the fire. Is there no morally significant difference between the two men? Worse still, should we endorse the arsonist?  If you think Biden and the Democrats do not have wicked plans on abortion and will rush to implement them, you have not been paying attention to their campaign promises or the actions Senate democrats–who can’t even bring themselves to outlaw letting unwanted humans die after birth.”  In short, policy trumps personality. 

If the goal of Mr. Vischer and his narrator (pastor Skye Jethani) is to get Christians to give up on Roe and vote Democrat, I have a question for them:  Would you would have made this video if the issue was not abortion and Roe but slavery and Dred Scott? (Dred Scott affirmed slavery by opining that blacks were only three-fifths of a person.)

“Overturning the Dred Scott decision isn’t our top priority anymore.  We’ve put justice after justice on the Supreme Court and still haven’t been able to overturn it after all these years.  And even if we do overturn Dred, some states will still have slavery.  Besides, there are other ways of reducing slavery.  And since slavery has decreased under pro-slavery presidents, it’s perfectly fine to vote for Stephen Douglas over Abraham Lincoln.” 

Would these men be making that dreadful case?  Would they be casting doubt on the moral importance of voting for Lincoln over Douglas? Would they gloss over the fact that Douglas not only wants to keep slavery legal, but he wants you, the taxpayer, to subsidize it?   

No one would accept that case.  And we shouldn’t accept theirs now.  It’s a make-believe case.  (For more, see my new video Does Jesus Trump Your Politics?)

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Dr. Frank Turek (D.Min.) is an award-winning author and frequent college speaker who hosts a weekly TV show on DirectTV and a radio program that airs on 186 stations around the nation.  His books include I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist and Stealing from God:  Why atheists need God to make their case

What have we learned from the COVID pandemic and our response to it?  Does the data show that the lockdown worked?  What was the total human cost of the lockdown?   What steps did the media take to disseminate “panic porn”?  Why were the models so wrong?  Why do we have conflicting scientific opinions? How many people really did die from COVID?  Is the current increase in cases really something to worry about?  What is the death rate and are deaths going up or down?   How should we respond to this time? 

Dr. Jay Richards joins Frank to discuss those and other questions related to his timely new book “The Price of Panic:  How the Tyranny of Experts Turned a Pandemic into a Catastrophe”. 

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There is a far deeper problem than atheism infecting the church. Alisa Childers, a Christian singer with ZOEgirl, almost got infected herself. She was challenged to renounce the true gospel and adopt another gospel—that of progressive Christianity. She joins Frank to tell her story and discuss her fabulous new book “Another Gospel,” which is part autobiographical and part apologetics.

Among the issues they cover:

  • How did your pastor try to convert away from the true Gospel?
  • What is progressive and Christian about progressive Christianity?
  • What are the basic beliefs of progressive Christianity?
  • What the signs of a person or church-going in that direction?
  • Why do people become progressive Christians?
  • How is progressive Christianity more intolerant than true Christianity?
  • What are its racist and Marxist roots?  
  • What evidence do we have that the early Christians were conservative, not progressive?
  • How do you reach out to those who consider themselves progressive Christians?

Get the book! Here’s Frank’s endorsement: “I love this book! Alisa Childers takes you on a captivating journey from her unreflective conservative Christian faith to the cliff of another gospel and then back home to the true Jesus. Along the way, she deconstructs progressive Christianity with wit, insight, and easy-to-remember evidence. Another Gospel? will inoculate you from a temptation far more seductive than atheism. And it’s an enjoyable read too!”

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Evangelicals today are deeply divided over Donald Trump. Some see him as a savior figure, anointed by God to protect the church and make America great again. Others see him more like the antichrist, doing great harm to the nation and bringing embarrassment to the church.  Who’s right?  Might they both have good points?  What should we do to move forward?

Dr. Michael Brown, author of Evangelicals at the Crossroads: Will We Pass the Trump Test?  joins Frank as the 2020 election approaches.  Among the questions they address are:

  • Evangelicals have been known as the “values voters” who are always proclaiming, “Character counts! Morality matters!” Have we been hypocritical in our support of Trump?
  • Are Christians losing their ability to witness if they support Trump for president?
  • During the 2016 primaries, you strongly opposed Trump before voting for him vs. Hillary. What changed your mind, and why do you plan to vote for Trump in 2020?
  • Should we be voting more for personality or policy?
  • Jesus scolded the politicians of his day for “neglecting the more important matters of the law” (Mt. 23:23). What are the most important matters of the law upon which we should base our vote in this election?
  • How do the two parties differ on the most important policies?
  • What do you say to pro-lifers who say that health care and poverty and climate change are pro-life issues and they outweigh abortion?
  • You state that “Jesus is my Savior, Trump is my president.” Why is that distinction so important?
  • What should Christians be doing in this election season regardless of who ultimately wins the presidency?

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On August 1, 2007, Pastor John Mark Caton of Cottonwood Creek Church in Allen, Texas, got a phone call from his brother.  It was his last call.  His brother took his life the next day.  Dr. Caton joins Frank to discuss this very difficult topic.  They address these among other questions:

  • What can we do to prevent suicide?
  • How should parents talk to their kids about it? (Suicide is now the second leading cause of death among young people.)
  • Why is isolation such a problem?
  • How does social media contribute to the problem?
  • What does the Bible say about suicide?
  • Can a person who commits suicide go to Heaven?
  • How can we minister to those who are left behind?

To get a free copy of Dr. Caton’s new book, Last Call, text BOOK to 77978.

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Passages in the Old Testament mention buying “slaves” or servants.  One even states “If a man sells his daughter as a female slave (Ex. 21:7) ….”  What?  Buying and selling slaves?  Selling your daughter?  This is crazy and obviously immoral!   But are we understanding the passages correctly?  Are people really considered property in the OT?   Was “slavery” in the OT the kind of institution we had in America up to the Civil War?   No.  Dr. Paul Copan, author of Is God a Moral Monster? joins Frank and sets the record straight.  They cover many of the objections that skeptics raise in Frank’s answer to the slavery question in this short video from the University of Nebraska.

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There is an argument for God that works even if the universe is eternal, even if macroevolution is true, even if a person believes that science is the supreme source of knowledge. It’s an argument that is as old as Aristotle, yet few talk about it today. Tricia Scribner, co-editor of the new book, Answering the Music Man, joins Frank for a fascinating discussion that unpacks this ancient argument in modern terms. Frank and Tricia show that science wouldn’t even work unless the premises of this argument were true.

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Does Abortion Trump Everything Else?

Have you heard people say that you’re just a one-issue voter? You’re pro-life on abortion but you need to be pro-life until natural death.  You need a more biblically balanced view and address other issues that are just as important, such as racism, poverty, and healthcare.  Dr. Ron Sider, a politically liberal evangelical, makes that case in a new blog.

Frank responds that equating all those issues makes four major mistakes, including ignoring the teaching of Jesus.  This is an important show as we enter the home stretch of the election season.

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Are you skeptical that anyone could present fresh insights about Jesus after two thousand years?  Tom Gilson has done just that in his new book, Too Good to Be False: How Jesus’ Incomparable Character Reveals His Reality.  Tom does this by highlighting what Jesus didn’t say and do, which is almost as shocking as what Jesus did say and do. Tom joins Frank and reveals these new insights about Jesus.  He also helps you realize how feeble the arguments against the biblical Jesus are.

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Frank shares a passionate reaction to the death of Mike Adams and then tackles the COVID situation, including the idea that churches and schools should reopen. If you can only school remotely, Frank recommends the online classes at CrossExamined.org he’s teaching this Fall.

Frank also gives robust answers to the following listener questions:

  • Why did God allow Adam and Eve to be tempted when He knew what would happen?
  • What about those that have never heard about Jesus?
  • What about those who think they are good people and don’t need forgiveness?

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