What have we learned from the COVID pandemic and our response to it?  Does the data show that the lockdown worked?  What was the total human cost of the lockdown?   What steps did the media take to disseminate “panic porn”?  Why were the models so wrong?  Why do we have conflicting scientific opinions? How many people really did die from COVID?  Is the current increase in cases really something to worry about?  What is the death rate and are deaths going up or down?   How should we respond to this time? 

Dr. Jay Richards joins Frank to discuss those and other questions related to his timely new book “The Price of Panic:  How the Tyranny of Experts Turned a Pandemic into a Catastrophe”. 

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