How Does Christianity Fulfill our Deepest Aspiration? Author Interview

My friend and Biola colleague Greg Ganssle has written a fascinating new book called Our Deepest Desires: How the Christian Story Fulfills Human Aspirations. Professor Ganssle takes a unique approach to the apologetic task. Essentially, his goal is not to show that Christianity is true, but to argue that when it is properly understood, people should wish it were true. He talks about how tragedy, beauty, and freedom make the most sense in a Christian worldview and that only Christianity fulfills our deepest desires.

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Our Deepest Desires is one of the most interesting books I have read in awhile. I hope you will check out this interview and think about getting a copy of his excellent book:

SEAN MCDOWELL: Can you tell us briefly what your book is about?

GREG GANSSLE: As the subtitle indicates, the book is about how the Christian story explains and grounds our basic aspirations. Every person has the same task—that is we all aim to navigate life in the best way we can. We navigate life with some notions of what it is good to be and to do. These notions are widely shared among people, regardless of their religious beliefs or lack of them.

I structure the book around four fundamental commitments that are widely shared. First, there is the commitment to persons. Nearly everything we care about is connected to human beings. Second, is the commitment to goodness. We want to be good and we enjoy what is good. Third, we are drawn towards beauty. Beauty calls us home in two ways. First, it calls us to see that this world is a wonderful place. Second, it points beyond this world to the next. Lastly, we long for personal freedom. That is the freedom to become the kind of people we want to be.

Each of these areas makes sense in the Christian story. God, the most fundamental reality, is personal. He is good and made a good world for his own good reasons. We are not surprised to find the world to be beautiful because he is a master artist. God created us to embody certain virtues, and we find our own freedom as we experience these.

MCDOWELL: The goal of your book is to convince people they should hope Christianity is true. What do you mean, and why start there?

GANSSLE: I start there because I think that most people do not care whether or not Christianity is true. They are already convinced that it is a story that hinders human flourishing, rather than a story that secures and promotes flourishing. What is startling is the fact that the things most human beings care most about fit better within the Christian story than they do in the various atheistic stories. Once we see this connection, we see that we want the Christian story to be true. Of course, the fact that we want it to be true does not show that it is true. But once a person wants it to be true, the objections to the truth of the Gospel seem much smaller.

MCDOWELL: Who is the primary audience?

GANSSLE: As I wrote this book, I was thinking of the many professors I know who are not yet followers of Christ. I was trying to overcome what I see as the biggest obstacle to belief in Christ–that the Christian story is unattractive. Nietzsche quipped, “What is decisive against Christianity now is our taste, not our reason.” I am trying to overcome the sense that the Christian story is not to be desired.

MCDOWELL: How might those who are already believers use and benefit from this book?

GANSSLE: There are two ways this book can benefit those who are already followers of Jesus. First, it can help us grasp the Gospel more deeply. We often have a superficial understanding of the Christian story. As a result, we fail to see its intrinsic relevance to the deep aspirations of every person. Our own appreciation of the Christian story will be enriched as we reflect on how it provides the resources to capture the most common human aspirations.

Second, this book will be a good tool to start conversations. You can hand it to a thoughtful person and discuss it later. Because it is not a work of scholarship, it is accessible to all kinds of people. I even made sure the chapters were short! I would recommend giving it to neighbors and following up with some questions.

MCDOWELL: What message is there for the church?

GANSSLE: I am convinced that the next horizon for apologetics is the desirability of the Gospel. As one of my colleagues has written (Dave Horner), the Christian story is “too good not to be true.” We have been so keen to defend theological notions such as the sinfulness of every person that we have neglected the deeper theological truths of the value, goodness and beauty of all God has created. We do not believe in the omnipotence of sin. Sin twists everything, to be sure, but it cannot erase that goodness that God has put into the world and into human beings.

MCDOWELL: I have heard you mention how tragedies reveal the deepest human desires. What do you mean, and how does this support the Christian worldview?

GANSSLE: When we encounter suffering, we long for meaning. We want our suffering to be meaningful or to contribute to a meaningful life. Horrendous suffering has the potential to crush a person’s soul. Unless our meaning is securely grounded in the God who brings good out of evil, who experienced evil, and who gives us his presence in the midst of suffering, we may find it impossible to experience a meaningful life in the midst of suffering. It is Jesus weeping at the grave of Lazarus that gives us hope because he is the God who bears our suffering and offers his presence.

Sean McDowell, Ph.D. is a professor of Christian Apologetics at Biola University, best-selling author, popular speaker, part-time high school teacher, and the Resident Scholar for Summit Ministries, California. Follow him on Twitter: @sean_mcdowell and his blog:


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  1. Susan says:

    This sounds like an excellent book. One worth reading. I have spent a lifetime around twisted souls and one of the most important things to learn is to not let the most twisted get to you.

    Ganssle must have figured it out too. Lots of awful things happen in life and just so long as you have a hope and know this too shall pass then prayer and belief in Jesus should take care of the rest.

    We’re all aware of suffering but we don’t have to choose to wallow in it. For the past 15 years I have been very picky of the books that I read but maybe I will read this one.

    I used to read a lot of the wrong kinds of books and I was not picky enough about them and I do believe they projected and reinforced some false ideas in my head. That’s why it took regular Bible reading to bring me back to my senses and reality and set my mind a lot firmer on the right ideas.

    We should all be a lot more careful who we share our thoughts with and the more intelligent we are the more spongelike and impressionable our minds can be but the wrong ideas can distort and twist them out of shape over time.

    Read the Bible as a primary source to get your mind and heart washed. Every other biblically themed book is supplementary reading and many other books are pure lightweight nonsense and trash.

    Learn to protect your mind from lightweight thinkers and trash because your mind is the tool you use to build a right relationship with God and everyone needs a finely calibrated tool to do that.

    This world and some people like to meddle with and recalibrate our mind’s valuation abilities until we can’t form a relationship with God any more.

    A good example is a prostitute. Between the force of worldly circumstances and mixed social messages and other junk messages a person may have been exposed to the person now devalues their own personhood so little that they think it is ok to treat themself as an object for sale.

    That is the kind of trash condition that consulting the wrong people and thinkers sometimes via books will get a person into.

    That is why a Christian should take every thought captive to Christ.

    Otherwise you could become the servant of the world and the world doesn’t treat people right a good bit of the time.

  2. Susan says:

    Christ is our inspiration and His people aspire to be like him.

    Listen to Vicki Yohe’s inspirational song “Because of Who You Are” on youtube and ask yourself what does she have that so many don’t have today and what is preventing them from having what she has.

  3. David says:

    Oh for sure, Christianity fulfills my deepest aspirations. I am so hopeful that billions will be tortured forever in hell. My deepest aspiration is for the majority of everyone that ever lived to suffer endlessly in the fire. Such a beautiful story! Any honest analysis of the brutality of Christianity should make the compassionate person hope it is not true. What could be more horrible than an angry, vindictive god that just will not be satisfied. According to the myth, men couldn’t be good enough, they couldn’t sacrifice enough (their own children weren’t adequate) not even Jesus’ death could satisfy Yahweh’s wrath. You still have to add the special ingredient of the right “cognitive works”. You have to turn off your intellect and believe the most ridiculous story ever told. Why so many hoops to jump through? Why not just make righteous everyone that ever lived? Christian doctrine says that no one that receives god’s mercy deserves it. If not, why not just save everyone and stop with all the ritual, cultic nonsense? I think everyone should hope that Christianity is not true. My deepest aspiration is for no one to suffer eternal, conscious torment.

    • Susan says:

      You need to research all hell doctrine positions before you argue about them. Why is it you can read all Christianity’s detractors but not learn doctrine for yourself?

      Buy a copy of ” Creations Jubilee” by Dr. Stephen E. Jones.

      Or google Seth Tipton’s “Eternal Torment: Godly Love?”

      Because eternal torment is a majority position doesn’t make it the only one.

      You’re going to have to have a much better grasp of Christian doctrine if you think you are going to publicly condemn God, David.

      So far you are making a strawman out of one afterlife position.

      Why don’t you try exonerating God in your own mind for a change.

      Just sayin’.

      • David says:

        You just don’t get it Susan, I’m not condemning god. I’m condemning the ancient writings of men which I don’t think god had anything to do with. The plan of salvation they defend in their writings is ridiculously flawed, logically. And you left off a good one, “The Inescapable Love Of God” by Thomas Talbott. Being a universalist, I would imagine you would be very blessed by it. If I could have held on to my Christian faith the theology proposed by this book would have provided the only path.

        • Susan says:

          You need a thorough education in the prophecies, David. Too many of the prophecies have come to pass for the Bible to have been written by men. That demonstrates divine foreknowledge.

          Psalm 53 was written 850 year before the coming of Jesus Christ describing him.

          53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

          2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

          3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

          4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

          5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

          6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

          7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

          8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

          9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

          10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

          11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

          12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

        • Susan says:

          Isaiah 46:10
          I declare the end from the beginning, and from long ago what is not yet done, saying: My plan will take place, and I will do all My will.

          Google: The Old Testament is Filled with Fulfilled Prophecy on

          The Bible contains thousand of prophecies. Thousands have been filled but some are still to come to pass.

          With a record like that of fulfilled prophecy why does God need to supply any more evidence than Jesus already did on the Cross?

          He doesn’t. The Bible has it’s own internal standard to judge false prophecy and true prophecy by also.

          Imagine men trying to control God’s work and demanding evidence.

          But salvation is all a work of God and preceding along a path that He has foreordained.

          If you want to read an interesting book on predestination then read Sacred Secrets of the Sovereignty of God by James W. Bruggemann.

          If you ask me people don’t check the scriptures enough to keep all of God’s planning straight. But there are always a few people who really do with astonishing exactitude.

          God tells people to be workmen but just like in real life some workmen are better than others and more precise. It doesn’t mean they are better people but they can be better teachers and better at explaining divine matters.

          • toby says:

            Oh my. There were some prophecies written in a book and in a later book they said they were fulfilled. Therefore it must be true and no one could have written a later book that says they were fulfilled. Or performed specific acts to make it look as such. Jesus: “hey, someone get me a donkey. It says in that old book the messiah will come on a donkey. I NEED A DONKEY!”

        • Susan says:

          If you have time google and watch the youtube video “Warning 8 Super Signs in the Heavens” and watch it. A lot of people are watching for Christ’s return these days and watching for heavenly signs.

          I would hate to be caught in an unrepentant state when he gets here so you will have to repent and learn to become a watchman, too, David.

          You have a great name to live up to. ” David” means “beloved” in Hebrew.

          So you are beloved by God and you should start acting like it.

          You may have been committing spiritual adultery innocently without knowing it by reading Dawkins et al. They have turned your heart away from God the way Solomon’s pagan wives turned Solomon’s away from God and Solomon was the world’s wisest man. Still Solomon with all his wisdom messed up.

        • Susan says:

          David I want you to know that your wandering into unbelief may not be all your own fault. I just realized why Dawkins is an evil scientist. You and I will never know what his motive for rebelling against God is. But he is seeking to communicate his rebellion worldwide through the press and media.

          Stephen Gould was the more ethical evolutionist. He said there is a boundary between the metaphysical and physical realms but some scientists like to trample the boundaries and make their idol science dominant in the spiritual realm.

          They defy God’s authority when they do that because God has already given and outline of His authority in the Bible.

          So, of course, people too eager to seize God’s authority will attempt to meddle with His Word which is Holy Writ and communicate their false ideas to others trying to destablize their relationships with God so they can establish their own followings.

          Francis Collins must have been a lot more keenly aware than many scientists are of the boundary beween the physical world and the metaphysical world. So he was able to fight off the evil scientists trying to dominate and control his thought life.

          If you think about it the only person worthy of dominating another person’s thoughtlife is a holy god but our Holy God doesn’t attempt to dominate it. He merely requires we exercise our self will and try to be obedient to Him. God already knows we weill have trials and tests of our self wills.

          There are two authorities: the metaphysical or the physical or you can have both.

          Science is attempting to assert it’s authority beyond proper bounds today. One example of this is in pharmacy drugs. There may be herbs that can do the job without devastating side effects. But most people always genuflect and defer to medical doctors like they are the ultimate authority without checking things for themselves.

          So don’t be the victim of evil boundary violators.

          There really is a war for the hearts and minds of people in this lifetime.

          Everyone has his own skirmish and struggle though.

          I have met several atheists who claimed to be spiritual.

          What they object to like a lot of the pagans and false religions do is to God defining what true spirituality is.

          True spirituality is Jesus Christ and God was drawing boundaries early on in the Bible all the way back to Cain and Abel.

          Remember Abel. He did as God directed while Cain bowed down to the earth and did what he wanted to do.
          Then Cain was angry when God was disappointed at his acts and he murdered Abel in an act of rebellion against God.

          So Cain’s heart motives had a lot to do with that.

          We determine where to position ourselves attitudinally in relationshp to God. We can look to Jesus as the author of our salvation and the finisher of our faith or we can let worldliness and evil minded thiners and their ideas mislead us and crowd all the godly, God given ideas out.

          So think about it David.

          It is not impossible to say sorry to God when we let the world have too much influence on us. We just have to recognize that it did. The world contains a lot of evil minded and motivated people. It always has.

          That’s why I exclusively commit my heart and mind to the Savior for safe keeping.

          He is the only one I trust to be error free and having my best at heart.

          I have been deceived and disappointed by this world too many times. Haven’t you?

          So why go on being deceived by the world. Trust God and He will always love and protect you because He is the truest, holiest and most loyal of all.

          Hope this helps.

          • David says:

            Evil scientists? You’re a kook Susan. And you’re a universalist so I’m good no matter what I do, right?

    • A brother in Christ says:

      Well, the problem with this assertion is, that Jesus was the all sufficient sacrifice for man to enter into eternal life and live with the Savior.
      But you would have to accept Him and love Him. God isn’t going to force you to live with Him if you don’t want Him. If one wants to reject Him and live only for this life, then that is that person’s choice.
      Salvation is a free gift offered by God. Anybody, small or great can accept it and be saved.
      We as followers of the way don’t want anyone to suffer in eternity either. That’s why we try to witness to others. How hateful would it be for someone to know where the keys are that opens the door to eternity in perfection, and not tell anyone.
      God doesn’t want anyone to suffer in eternity, that’s why He himself came into the world to suffer an awful, brutally unfair punishment so that we can be imputed with His righteousness.
      2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”

  4. Susan says:

    Toby I see you don’t understand the odds of some of these prophecies happening. Get a copy of the Case for Christ by Strobel and see what the odds of some of these prophecies happening actually are.

    Until then you are just proffering your own assumption as an argument. Try being thorough and check things out like Louis Lapides did.

    • toby says:

      I see you totally miss my point that someone can write down a “prophecy” and then someone later can read that prophecy and then claim in their own writings that it came true.
      Look at Jeremiah 31:15 & Matthew 2:16-18. Matthew is literally just a quote from Jeremiah.
      Look at Isaiah 7:14 & Matthew 1:23. Again, literally just a quote.
      Two instances of someone having knowledge of the older verses and then inserting them into their narrative. You’re placing all of your faith into unknown authors with unknown intentions. You probably just think of the bible as being written by god. Maybe you have a small footnote in your head that says “through men”, but you probably largely ignore that. Yet, if today I asked you to put your trust in men for anything you’d say, “You can’t trust people to do anything right or good.” Just confounding.

      • Susan says:

        I am not arguing. I see you miss my point.

        You should have researched the prophecies like the former Jewish atheist Lapides did if you need evidence.

        His study of the prophecies helped convert him and he’s a Christian pastor now.

      • Susan says:

        Toby, I am increasingly leaning towards not trading ideas with unbelievers any more. Do you want to know why?

        All people inside themselves contain a memory, a core. God calls it the heart but this heart can become corrupted and dysfunctional over time just like a computer exposed to too many viruses.

        Sin and evil thinking is the virus.

        God gave us the Bible to repent and get clear of worldly corruption through the saving grace of Jesus Christ.

        But some people’s heart motives and internal drives are too corrupted and they just refuse to let God clean them up and return a whole new being and nature to them.

        No a person will never be absolutely perfected while in this life. There are far too many corrupting influences in this world but in our inner being we can resolve to stay as set apart from worldly corruption as humanly possible, to learn from God and carry on in his ways as much as possible and pattern ourselves on Jesus Christ.

        Some people can do that.

        So no offense….but people do communicate weak minded evil thinking…For example, they teach others to be complainers and blamers and cowards by their own example. They also teach people to break vows, fornicate, lie and steal and take bribes by their own example.

        So there is internal corruption and people communicate these corrupt ideas and ways to others via communication.

        So God steps in and imputes forgiveness of sin to people and says now stand free of the corruption.

        Some people do and some people don’t. How or why is partly up to them but a lot depends on how good they are at taking direction from God in the Bible.

        If you don’t care to believe in God then that is a sign of maximum corruption of your inner being and I shouldn’t even be talking to you risking receiving your virus.

        So I am warning you. Start giving some basic voluntary love and respect to God so He can operate in your life and rescue from your own corruption and the corrupting influences of this world while there is still time.

        Let Him help you take back your own heart which is your inner being. Why do you think there are psycopaths in this world. Could it be that they learned to dwell on evil too much? So much that evil started to possess them?

        Would you hang around a psychopath hoping he doesn’t hurt you? The atheist Madalyn Murray O’Hair did and he murdered her and several members of her own family.

        In Proverbs 13:20 God says:
        Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm.

        Remember what I said. God gave Jesus and the Bible to save people from the mind virus of sin. People can decide to seek Jesus then stay as set apart as humanly possible if they really want to.

        But they have a hard time perceiving that if we easily tolerate getting reinfected with sin from other people.

        Joseph refused to get infected. He ran from Potiohar’s wife.

        You should be running to Jesus so he can save you from the awful sin virus and learn how to put on the Armor of God to protect yourself from reinfection.

        This is your heart. Your inner being we are talking about.

        If you won’t assist God in protecting it then who will?

        And if you refuse to assist God it could be because yiour core self has become too corrupted.

        So if you can’t repent after all this then you need to pray to Jesus for help.

        May His Grace Abound To You!

      • Susan says:

        By the way, Toby, don’t take offense at anything I have written. I think in spite of their rhetoric that atheists are still important to God. He is an all loving God after all.

        It’s just I don’t think entertaining anyone’s thinking ahead of God’s is good for people.

        So I will have to take the initiative and cut off your access to me and set the example by doing that.

        If you feel like anathema then maybe it will start to dawn on you that someone or some people have pulled some fast ones on you in this world and you can turn to God and ask Him for some help out of the mess of errors these people are feeding you.

        Imagine people trying to take away your relationship with God by dismissing Him, dissing Him and trying to redefine Him so they can get away with things He specifically told them are wrong.

        Don’t ever listen to just anyone about God. Ascertain the character of these people first. They may have all kinds of issues motivating them to reject a good God who does everything for everybody.

        And that is callus, ungrateful behavior.

        Some of these apologists love the heck out of atheists confusing you even further so I am just going to call a spade a spade and set the record straight in your own mind.

        You are not an atheist. Younare just a sinner in deep need of correction from God and the gift of repentance.

        Ask Him for the gift of true faith. Not whatever counterfeit stuff the Mormons pass around.

        True life giving faith. There is no substitute for it and ask for the gift of discernment too because that way you will more easily spot counterfeit religion in one of it’s many guises in the future.

        Imagine all these “atheist” writers trying to deny you access to God’s love. That is what they are doing but the word “atheist” is not to be found in the Bible so some man made it up trying to consolidate a following.

        You think for yourself Toby and don’t get caught in the atheist ranks. Because God is love and He loves you no matter what deceptive ideas other people you will never even meet in life plant on you.

        You just root out all their bitter and self deceptive ideas before they take hold in your soul and ask Jesus to reveal all that to you and over time you will be just fine and a true child of God.

        God Bless!

        • toby says:

          If you don’t care to believe in God then that is a sign of maximum corruption of your inner being and I shouldn’t even be talking to you risking receiving your virus.
          The strongest fear of the indoctrinated. They can’t listen to or be around anyone that doesn’t share their indoctrination because they aren’t strong enough in their beliefs (or subconsciously think they’re not) to not lose them. I think you are this way. I don’t think you actually consider anything any of us say to you here. If you do read anything that gives you pause or knocks at the door of your belief you quickly turn away from it and find a bible verse to quote. I think at your core you belief without reason that there’s a concept called god and he’s perfect and therefore real and you’ll take his word over anyone else’s. Even to the point of not questioning anything about your religion. Here’s a question, if you think that men can be corrupted by sex or money or whatever “worldly” thing and that would lead them to lie and cheat . . . could not a person also be corrupted by their religion to lie and cheat in order to defend it? Consciously or subconsciously, innocently or deceptively. How many theistic religious scholars do you think offer interpretations that are tenuous or outright false in order to advance or defend your religion? History is littered with them, some are probably still revered.
          Your proselytizing answers are of no help or value to me. I live and have grown up in the US. I have heard it all over and over and it still sounds like unreasonable garbage to me, from its weak base to its leaning peak.

          • Susan says:

            Well you are wrong Toby I no longer have patience with people who take license in the midst of arguing to blaspheme God.

            I only argued in the hope that they would see the light. Early on I sometimes enjoyed winning arguments but no longer see the point of winning. Soul winning is what is important.

            I am most likely immune to your virus. I have been exposed to atheism repeatedly for 13 years and have received all sorts of nasty insults and implied threats but it hasn’t made much of an impression on my beliefs except to strengthen them.

            So if I were really weak I would have run a long time ago.

            But I simply think it is unfair to God that He is blasphemed and I no longer want to be a party to provoking anyone who refuses to form a relationship with God.

            I think unbelievers need relationship counseling more than they need arguments but that doesn’t seem to occur to them because some people seem to overly like intellectual games.

  5. Susan says:

    By the way Toby when you question a prophecy you aren’t just calling anyone’s word into question.

    You are calling God’s Word into question so you are going to have to explain why thousands of them didn’t fail not just one before you make light of thousands of them.

    So the burden is now on you to go inspect thousands of prophecies because you didn’t hold God in enough love and respect to accept Him at His Word.

    You best get busy. It is only a few thousand to check because your assumption and excuse doesn’t hold any weight with me.

    Take care. God Bless.

    See you in several years after you have spent serious time and effort trying to understand exactly what a prophecy is.

  6. Tracey says:

    Essentially the naysayers see only through the me the I.
    So this is living proof of God who does not interfere unlike Satan who advances in the moment nasty raises it’s head.
    But God is truly the intelligent creator as He is front and centre of Atheist world, dawn to dusk day in day out.
    What’s that old maxim any press is good; good, bad or indifferent it all adds to the flavour.
    Yep God is very smart.

  7. Eric Breaux says:

    have always been unsettled by the paradoxical feeling of eternal life. The idea of something never ending for us should be joyful, but I’m constantly horrified by the thought of there being only a limited amount of things one could possibly do for eternity, since there can’t be an infinite amount of them. At some time everything possible to exist will, and there will be no new things to experience. How could anything stay satisfying forever. As horrible as it is, it would seem like the only way to not suffer anymore is to not exist after death, but we exist and have desires and love for people, and for all that to end isn’t desirable, even though you wouldn’t know that you don’t exist anymore, so shouldn’t be harmful. It also concerns me that there’s a lot of people who have no problem believing you don’t exist after death because you can’t know it if that happens, and makes me wonder if people who do believe in an afterlife believe mostly because we want to, and use any evidence that just happens to be consistent at all with what we believe to not be hopeless. If there’s people who manage to have peace and joy believing there’s literally nothing to hope for, it makes me wonder if the belief in God and eternal existence is even necessary, and I’m just too insecure to find a way to get over it. It would help me if it were true that most of those who claim to not fear everything being a waste, never to be remembered eventually, are just bluffing and are suppressing the truth as the bible says.
    And even though there’s plenty of historical and scientific evidence for what the bible records, it seems like all that is irrelevant if after this life, most of what we learn about anything will no longer be applicable.


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